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Repubs are excellent at this sort of thing.

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Nobody knows for sure what caused the surge — just as nobody knows for sure what caused the epic decline in crime from 1990 to the mid-2010s,

Probably had something to do with keeping criminals in jail.
 

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One wonders if things would be different had a clever ad man for the Dems come up with the catchy term, "Repubs want to defund healthcare."

They're too scared to get rid of ocare. The penalty tax is gone so ocare is about worthless despite the Rs cowardice.
 

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So it’s about feelings and not facts


Ohhj

It's about people's beliefs that crime is worse, it's about seeing random crime impact people just like them, and it's about progressives caring more about the criminals than the victims.
 

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Note to The Following: Attempts to dismiss the content of this post based on the sources used, without factual refutation, will be ignored.

fuh fuh fuh, ignore, fuh fuh fuh.
 

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Crime: Red Delusions About Purple Reality

Americans aren’t wrong to be concerned about crime. Nationwide, violent crime rose substantially in 2020; we don’t have complete data yet, but murders appear to have risen further in 2021, although they seem to be declining again.

Nobody knows for sure what caused the surge — just as nobody knows for sure what caused the epic decline in crime from 1990 to the mid-2010s, about which more shortly. But given the timing, the social and psychological effects of the pandemic are the most likely culprit, with a possible secondary role for the damage to police-community relations caused by the murder of George Floyd.

While the crime surge was real, however, the perception that it was all about big cities run by Democrats is false. This was a purple crime wave, with murder rates rising at roughly the same rate in Trump-voting red states and Biden-voting blue states. Homicides rose sharply in both urban and rural areas. And if we look at levels rather than rates of change, both homicides and violent crime as a whole are generally higher in red states.

So why do so many people believe otherwise? Before we get to politically motivated disinformation, let’s talk about some other factors that might have skewed perceptions.

Opinion | Crime: Red Delusions About Purple Reality

Dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodge.

In blue cities people are forced to rely on police because they are mostly disarmed.

You don't see Republicans call for bail reform and decriminalization.

Stop fucking lying, and linking fucking liars, you fucking prog SJW cuck-boi.

baaaaaaa.
 

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Wait so the whole "cash bail" reform thing only deals with certain misdemeanors and non-violent offenders?

No kidding.

It sounded like it was for murderers and rapists!

I wonder why the GOP tried to make it sound that way...
Wrong. In IL. anyone held in jail because they could not raise bail will be released Jan. 1st 2023. People awaiting trial on felonies like sexual assault to attempted murder will be free to go and given a court date. Criminals are the new protected class for Democrats.
 

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Wrong. In IL. anyone held in jail because they could not raise bail will be released Jan. 1st 2023. People awaiting trial on felonies like sexual assault to attempted murder will be free to go and given a court date. Criminals are the new protected class for Democrats.

One has to remember that progressives see the system as the actual criminal, "criminals" are just the true victims, and their actual victims further victims of the system.
 
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You liberals got your way and it's turned into a giant steaming pile of manure, Berg! Crime is out of control
Pay attention. There is no correlation between an increase in crime and cashless bail. But thanks for proving my point.
 
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Wrong. In IL. anyone held in jail because they could not raise bail will be released Jan. 1st 2023. People awaiting trial on felonies like sexual assault to attempted murder will be free to go and given a court date. Criminals are the new protected class for Democrats.
Gosh, you gullible rubes are hopeless.

 
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Probably had something to do with keeping criminals in jail.
Not according to any study that has been done. You dolts keep proving my point over and over.
 
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One has to remember that progressives see the system as the actual criminal, "criminals" are just the true victims, and their actual victims further victims of the system.
Have you ever considered, just for a change of pace, posting something other than baseless horseshit?
 

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Pay attention. There is no correlation between an increase in crime and cashless bail. But thanks for proving my point.

I'll get back to you in a couple months to let you know if the Illinois bail experiment works.
 

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Not according to any study that has been done. You dolts keep proving my point over and over.

Crime didn't decline in the 90s because more criminals got longer terms?

Then why did it decline? Link?
 

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Have you ever considered, just for a change of pace, posting something other than baseless horseshit?

Have you?

Just because you provide links doesn't mean your links are biased partisan tripe.
 
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I'll get back to you in a couple months to let you know if the Illinois bail experiment works.

Online posts and fake newspapers circulating in Illinois claim a law provides for the automatic release of accused criminals across the US state. This is misleading; while legislation passed in 2021 does eliminate cash bail, legal experts say judges can still jail those who may pose a threat to the community.

 

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Online posts and fake newspapers circulating in Illinois claim a law provides for the automatic release of accused criminals across the US state. This is misleading; while legislation passed in 2021 does eliminate cash bail, legal experts say judges can still jail those who may pose a threat to the community.


It handcuffs the judges to have to be sure the person is a risk, or the defense lawyer can scream bloody murder and the judge will be forced to let them go.
 
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Have you?

Just because you provide links doesn't mean your links are biased partisan tripe.
Here's the thing. You never provide any evidence to refute the facts contained in the links. Making your posts worthless tripe.
 
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Once again lefties act like losers. Are they getting ready for next week? The left has ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, the NYT, WAPO, Media Matters and most of the social media. How is it possible for Republicans to "do it better"?
 
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Once again lefties act like losers. Are they getting ready for next week? The left has ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, the NYT, WAPO, Media Matters and most of the social media. How is it possible for Republicans to "do it better"?
Please explain to me how it is that a large % of the public believes in lies about crime, about cashless bail, about the sources of inflation, etc.
 

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