In typical GOP fashion, Trumpers are trying to spin reality on wars and war mongering.
GWB lied to the world and exaggerated the threat of Iraq and convinced idiot republicans we needed to go to war in Iraq, when we clearly didn't. On top of that Bush and the idiot republicans totally fucked up and mismanaged the war and it turned into a mega disaster. The vast majority of the problems in the Mid east today, are the result of Bush and the GOP failure there.
Fox News also pumped and promoted the war, aling with the GOP. Hannity and O'Rielly pumped the war on a daily basis. Most idiot Trumpers forget what they were saying back in 2002/2003/2004...
If you opposed war in Iraq you "hated America" and were labeled "unpatriotic" Even though we were the smart ones, the correct ones (per usual).
The main reason the Mid East is an epic cluster **** shit show, is because of GWB and the GOP. They got us into Iraq, and they fucked it up, and fucked it up big time. If you opposed War in Iraq, you were labeled "unpatriotic" by Fox News and Republicans. Idiot republicans seem to forget this fact and somehow try to act like they oppose these stupid wars, when they are the ones that started them...
The GOP is the party of war mongering, not the Dems why are republicans suddenly trying to claim the opposite??
A skeptical journalist isn't an unpatriotic one
Over the past 18 months or so, I've received more complaints from readers about "unpatriotic" news coverage than any other issue.www.latimes.com
10 years after Iraq; don't expect any apologies
Back in March 2003, the acronym "WMD" became the stated reason for America's attack on a sovereign nation that would last nine years with 4,480 U.S. deaths.onmilwaukee.com
Is it Anti-American to be Anti-War?
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It goes back farther than that.
reagan did his damage covertly and with the excuse that the enemy of my enemy is my friend policy.
When the USSR invaded and occupied Afghanistan, reagan armed the Afghan militias. Specifically bin laden and his merry band of terrorists. Reagan invited them to the White House and proclaimed them as great freedom fighters. Reagan armed them, trained them and basically gave them all they needed to become the terrorist group who attacked us on 9-11.
reagan did some his worst damage with terrorists in the ME even before he became president by giving the terrorists who took our citizens as hostages the weapons, technology, spare parts and cash they demanded. While at the same time saying NO ARMS FOR HOSTAGES! reagan taught the terrorists that republican presidents will allow them to take our citizens as hostages, will give them exactly what they demand then protect the terrorists by lying and trying to cover the whole thing up. So as soon as they released one hostage, the terrorists just kidnapped more Americans. It went on for years throughout reagan's presidency. Which put all Americans who were in that part of the world, at very serious risk of being kidnapped and ransomed.
The first George bush wanted Iraq's oil. He wasn't stupid like his son. He didn't turn that area into a total mess. Just half a mess. He liberated Kuwait and left Iraq as was however with very strict rules on Iraq that were designed to create more violence and "force" America to have to deal with it by invading Iraq. I wouldn't have been surprised if the first bush had gotten a second term, he would have had us in Iraq. Taking the oil. Just as his son did.
The bush boy and republicans didn't give a damn about bin laden beyond his ability to get the maximum political advantage out of him by using him to scare stupid republicans to vote for the bush boy and republicans. The bush boy let bin laden go at tora bora and did nothing to find them to bring them to justice. In fact a couple months after 9-11 the bush boy said he didn't care about bin laden anymore and didn't even think about him. He was already on to invading Iraq by then. We all know how that turned out.
The Republican Party is nothing but a leach on our society. Their economic and social policy is the most irresponsible I've ever encountered.
1. Reagan handled the support for the Afghan rebels beautifully. We did not arm bin laden. You are lying.
2. The arms for hostages was a mistake, based on an old man getting soft and wanting to rescue innocent Americans. Not a reason to slam him.
3. George HWBush did not want Iraq's oil. That is a stupid thing to say.
4. GWBush did not "let" bin laden go. He made the call that risking destablizing Pakistan was not worth it. A reasonable call.
5. GWBush saying he "did not care about bin laden" any more, was obviously just trash talk designed to save face for being unable to kill him. That you believe it, is just evidence how stupid you are.
6. You are a moron.
You are correct in thst post about the corruption of the Bush’s and Reagan starting wars,yes thst cannot be debated,but like the lying stupid **** troll you are same as the op and smellybozo,you cowardly evade facts and won’t accept the truth thst I have taken you biased retards to school on too many times to remember That Clinton started wars as well and Obama was a clone of Bush lying to the American people when he said he would reverse Bush’s policys but instead expanded them INCLUDING expanding the war in the Mideast bombing Syria that trump withdrew troops from,but now lying Biden has got obamas war machine going there again biased retard troll.In typical GOP fashion, Trumpers are trying to spin reality on wars and war mongering.
GWB lied to the world and exaggerated the threat of Iraq and convinced idiot republicans we needed to go to war in Iraq, when we clearly didn't. On top of that Bush and the idiot republicans totally fucked up and mismanaged the war and it turned into a mega disaster. The vast majority of the problems in the Mid east today, are the result of Bush and the GOP failure there.
Fox News also pumped and promoted the war, aling with the GOP. Hannity and O'Rielly pumped the war on a daily basis. Most idiot Trumpers forget what they were saying back in 2002/2003/2004...
If you opposed war in Iraq you "hated America" and were labeled "unpatriotic" Even though we were the smart ones, the correct ones (per usual).
The main reason the Mid East is an epic cluster **** shit show, is because of GWB and the GOP. They got us into Iraq, and they fucked it up, and fucked it up big time. If you opposed War in Iraq, you were labeled "unpatriotic" by Fox News and Republicans. Idiot republicans seem to forget this fact and somehow try to act like they oppose these stupid wars, when they are the ones that started them...
The GOP is the party of war mongering, not the Dems why are republicans suddenly trying to claim the opposite??
A skeptical journalist isn't an unpatriotic one
Over the past 18 months or so, I've received more complaints from readers about "unpatriotic" news coverage than any other issue.10 years after Iraq; don't expect any apologies
Back in March 2003, the acronym "WMD" became the stated reason for America's attack on a sovereign nation that would last nine years with 4,480 U.S. deaths.Is it Anti-American to be Anti-War?
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the…
It goes back farther than that.
reagan did his damage covertly and with the excuse that the enemy of my enemy is my friend policy.
When the USSR invaded and occupied Afghanistan, reagan armed the Afghan militias. Specifically bin laden and his merry band of terrorists. Reagan invited them to the White House and proclaimed them as great freedom fighters. Reagan armed them, trained them and basically gave them all they needed to become the terrorist group who attacked us on 9-11.
reagan did some his worst damage with terrorists in the ME even before he became president by giving the terrorists who took our citizens as hostages the weapons, technology, spare parts and cash they demanded. While at the same time saying NO ARMS FOR HOSTAGES! reagan taught the terrorists that republican presidents will allow them to take our citizens as hostages, will give them exactly what they demand then protect the terrorists by lying and trying to cover the whole thing up. So as soon as they released one hostage, the terrorists just kidnapped more Americans. It went on for years throughout reagan's presidency. Which put all Americans who were in that part of the world, at very serious risk of being kidnapped and ransomed.
The first George bush wanted Iraq's oil. He wasn't stupid like his son. He didn't turn that area into a total mess. Just half a mess. He liberated Kuwait and left Iraq as was however with very strict rules on Iraq that were designed to create more violence and "force" America to have to deal with it by invading Iraq. I wouldn't have been surprised if the first bush had gotten a second term, he would have had us in Iraq. Taking the oil. Just as his son did.
The bush boy and republicans didn't give a damn about bin laden beyond his ability to get the maximum political advantage out of him by using him to scare stupid republicans to vote for the bush boy and republicans. The bush boy let bin laden go at tora bora and did nothing to find them to bring them to justice. In fact a couple months after 9-11 the bush boy said he didn't care about bin laden anymore and didn't even think about him. He was already on to invading Iraq by then. We all know how that turned out.
The Republican Party is nothing but a leach on our society. Their economic and social policy is the most irresponsible I've ever encountered.
Oh and hate to break the news to you but two differerent countries offered bin laden up to Clinton and he did nothing either moron.lol
In typical GOP fashion, Trumpers are trying to spin reality on wars and war mongering.
GWB lied to the world and exaggerated the threat of Iraq and convinced idiot republicans we needed to go to war in Iraq, when we clearly didn't. On top of that Bush and the idiot republicans totally fucked up and mismanaged the war and it turned into a mega disaster. The vast majority of the problems in the Mid east today, are the result of Bush and the GOP failure there.
Fox News also pumped and promoted the war, aling with the GOP. Hannity and O'Rielly pumped the war on a daily basis. Most idiot Trumpers forget what they were saying back in 2002/2003/2004...
If you opposed war in Iraq you "hated America" and were labeled "unpatriotic" Even though we were the smart ones, the correct ones (per usual).
The main reason the Mid East is an epic cluster **** shit show, is because of GWB and the GOP. They got us into Iraq, and they fucked it up, and fucked it up big time. If you opposed War in Iraq, you were labeled "unpatriotic" by Fox News and Republicans. Idiot republicans seem to forget this fact and somehow try to act like they oppose these stupid wars, when they are the ones that started them...
The GOP is the party of war mongering, not the Dems why are republicans suddenly trying to claim the opposite??
A skeptical journalist isn't an unpatriotic one
Over the past 18 months or so, I've received more complaints from readers about "unpatriotic" news coverage than any other issue.10 years after Iraq; don't expect any apologies
Back in March 2003, the acronym "WMD" became the stated reason for America's attack on a sovereign nation that would last nine years with 4,480 U.S. deaths.Is it Anti-American to be Anti-War?
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the…
It goes back farther than that.
reagan did his damage covertly and with the excuse that the enemy of my enemy is my friend policy.
When the USSR invaded and occupied Afghanistan, reagan armed the Afghan militias. Specifically bin laden and his merry band of terrorists. Reagan invited them to the White House and proclaimed them as great freedom fighters. Reagan armed them, trained them and basically gave them all they needed to become the terrorist group who attacked us on 9-11.
reagan did some his worst damage with terrorists in the ME even before he became president by giving the terrorists who took our citizens as hostages the weapons, technology, spare parts and cash they demanded. While at the same time saying NO ARMS FOR HOSTAGES! reagan taught the terrorists that republican presidents will allow them to take our citizens as hostages, will give them exactly what they demand then protect the terrorists by lying and trying to cover the whole thing up. So as soon as they released one hostage, the terrorists just kidnapped more Americans. It went on for years throughout reagan's presidency. Which put all Americans who were in that part of the world, at very serious risk of being kidnapped and ransomed.
The first George bush wanted Iraq's oil. He wasn't stupid like his son. He didn't turn that area into a total mess. Just half a mess. He liberated Kuwait and left Iraq as was however with very strict rules on Iraq that were designed to create more violence and "force" America to have to deal with it by invading Iraq. I wouldn't have been surprised if the first bush had gotten a second term, he would have had us in Iraq. Taking the oil. Just as his son did.
The bush boy and republicans didn't give a damn about bin laden beyond his ability to get the maximum political advantage out of him by using him to scare stupid republicans to vote for the bush boy and republicans. The bush boy let bin laden go at tora bora and did nothing to find them to bring them to justice. In fact a couple months after 9-11 the bush boy said he didn't care about bin laden anymore and didn't even think about him. He was already on to invading Iraq by then. We all know how that turned out.
The Republican Party is nothing but a leach on our society. Their economic and social policy is the most irresponsible I've ever encountered.
1. Reagan handled the support for the Afghan rebels beautifully. We did not arm bin laden. You are lying.
2. The arms for hostages was a mistake, based on an old man getting soft and wanting to rescue innocent Americans. Not a reason to slam him.
3. George HWBush did not want Iraq's oil. That is a stupid thing to say.
4. GWBush did not "let" bin laden go. He made the call that risking destablizing Pakistan was not worth it. A reasonable call.
5. GWBush saying he "did not care about bin laden" any more, was obviously just trash talk designed to save face for being unable to kill him. That you believe it, is just evidence how stupid you are.
6. You are a moron.
I supported Reagan during the 80s while he pursued making the world a better place.
I learned from his endless failures, particularly in the Middle East, that nothing ever changes there and our best strategy is to develop energy at home and leave. It had a lot to do with my becoming a libertarian in the 90s
Nazi Democrats like The Banker aren't against war. They are against not being behind the steering wheel. Well, they fixed that now that they are just stealing elections and not bothering to win them
Any pro war sentiment from dems with a small minor fraction of the over the top must go to war PUSH from the GOP.Please you are mis-remembering history.See there you go trying to spin the facts. You are reaching in a pathetic attempt to deflect blame.
I notice that you didn't read the link in my post, it supports my position 100%, heck even the democrat's agrees too.... OVERWHELMINGLY!
Wikipedia
The bill was sponsored by Representative Benjamin A. Gilman (Republican, NY-20) and co-sponsored by Representative Christopher Cox (Republican, CA-47). The bill was introduced as H.R. 4655 on September 29, 1998. The House of Representatives passed the bill 360–38 on October 5, and the Senate passed it with unanimous consent two days later. President Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act into law on October 31, 1998.
bolding mine
Your ignorance is established fact.
If you are going to somehow suggest that War in Iraq was a dem idea or a bipartisan idea, that is just a flat lie.
War in Iraq was a GOP plan, and it was executed (terribly I might add) by the GOP...
The life of a republican is to come up with lies and pathetic excuses for the failure of GOP leaders and presidents.
TheCanker is obviously a moron or a partisan hack....
Even the HuffingPaintPost disagrees with him.
Who voted to authorize force in Iraq October 2002?
Who voted to authorize force in Iraq October 2002?www.huffpost.com
I posted that earlier, he ignored it and my other ones as well, we are dealing with a partisan fuckwit.
I don't he ever read any of the links since they are definitive of what happened.
Dems got smoked in the 2002 mid terms because they opposed any war talk. You seem to ignore this fact. The GOP politicized war and it was political suicide to oppose the war. You conveniently forget this fact...
The GOP pushed for Iraq and they pushed it hard.
In 2002-6, If you opposed war mongering you were labeled unpatriotic (probably by you, I'm sure you did that), and don't even try to act like that wasn't true.
Nothing you say or do can trump this fact... This ends the argument...
You are the typical Trump DB, that claims to be independent, yet defends Trump and all his stupidity every step of the way...
And guess what, I could give 2 flying ***** about what you are, I just call em how I see em...
Still ignoring what the DEMOCRATS said about it.
Now you are proven LIAR and a mentally ill partisan jackass who ignored all evidence straight from the democrats themselves.
1) Democrats strongly voted for the war, showed you links straight from the Federal government websites and liberal media.
2) Democrats strongly for 5 years before the war began that Iraq and Hussein were in violation of the U.N. accords, that he was a danger to the region and that he needs to be removed.
Post 29 Video showing Democrats specifically speaking about how bad Iraq and Hussein are, that they are a danger to the region.
3) Democrats strongly supported the Iraqi Liberation Act of 1998 to remove Hussein from power, based on numerous grounds as stated in the Act.
All of your replies have been dead on arrival and never addressed any of the links I posted and failed to post a real counterpoint.
I think this YOU are the person I have given the biggest debate drubbing in the forum in my 3 years I have been here.
It is clear you run on partisan bullshit, that is the only thing you are capable of since you are mentally ill.
To some how suggest that the War in Iraq was the result of the Dems is just plain laughable.
The GOP pushed for Iraq and they pushed it hard. Then they pushed it even harder before the UN, State of the Union etc, you seem to forget this fact...
In 2002-6, If you opposed war mongering you were labeled unpatriotic (probably by you, I'm sure you did that), and don't even try to act like that wasn't true.
Nothing you say or do can trump this fact... This ends the argument...
First you supported all these wars (and called people like me who opposed them traitors), then when you found out Trump was opposed to these wars you flip flopped, and then suddenly you too opposed those wars all along...
I appreciate the fact that you agree with that both Establishment Parties suck.In typical GOP fashion, Trumpers are trying to spin reality on wars and war mongering.
GWB lied to the world and exaggerated the threat of Iraq and convinced idiot republicans we needed to go to war in Iraq, when we clearly didn't. On top of that Bush and the idiot republicans totally fucked up and mismanaged the war and it turned into a mega disaster. The vast majority of the problems in the Mid east today, are the result of Bush and the GOP failure there.
Fox News also pumped and promoted the war, aling with the GOP. Hannity and O'Rielly pumped the war on a daily basis. Most idiot Trumpers forget what they were saying back in 2002/2003/2004...
If you opposed war in Iraq you "hated America" and were labeled "unpatriotic" Even though we were the smart ones, the correct ones (per usual).
The main reason the Mid East is an epic cluster **** shit show, is because of GWB and the GOP. They got us into Iraq, and they fucked it up, and fucked it up big time. If you opposed War in Iraq, you were labeled "unpatriotic" by Fox News and Republicans. Idiot republicans seem to forget this fact and somehow try to act like they oppose these stupid wars, when they are the ones that started them...
The GOP is the party of war mongering, not the Dems why are republicans suddenly trying to claim the opposite??
A skeptical journalist isn't an unpatriotic one
Over the past 18 months or so, I've received more complaints from readers about "unpatriotic" news coverage than any other issue.10 years after Iraq; don't expect any apologies
Back in March 2003, the acronym "WMD" became the stated reason for America's attack on a sovereign nation that would last nine years with 4,480 U.S. deaths.Is it Anti-American to be Anti-War?
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the…
Oh my the irony,you really need to look in the mirror when talking about someone who gets smoked and runs away with his tail between his legs kid.,many others have told you the same thing,with many others telling you that,it’s pretty obvious they are correct or so many others would not be telling you that same as me.
He indeed is a hypocrite saying he is against war yet he is a fan of warmonger lying Biden and obozo.if he was not so retarded he indeed would be supporting trump the fact he kept us out of wars.
All done by Clinton and Obama and now Biden of course,the hypocrisy of this troll is comedy gold.Says an advocate of the bunch that has proudly made war on Serbs, Kosovars, Libyans, religious oddballs, Syrians, children, and keeps a hostile stance toward the two other great nuclear powers.In typical GOP fashion, Trumpers are trying to spin reality on wars and war mongering.
GWB lied to the world and exaggerated the threat of Iraq and convinced idiot republicans we needed to go to war in Iraq, when we clearly didn't. On top of that Bush and the idiot republicans totally fucked up and mismanaged the war and it turned into a mega disaster. The vast majority of the problems in the Mid east today, are the result of Bush and the GOP failure there.
Fox News also pumped and promoted the war, aling with the GOP. Hannity and O'Rielly pumped the war on a daily basis. Most idiot Trumpers forget what they were saying back in 2002/2003/2004...
If you opposed war in Iraq you "hated America" and were labeled "unpatriotic" Even though we were the smart ones, the correct ones (per usual).
The main reason the Mid East is an epic cluster **** shit show, is because of GWB and the GOP. They got us into Iraq, and they fucked it up, and fucked it up big time. If you opposed War in Iraq, you were labeled "unpatriotic" by Fox News and Republicans. Idiot republicans seem to forget this fact and somehow try to act like they oppose these stupid wars, when they are the ones that started them...
The GOP is the party of war mongering, not the Dems why are republicans suddenly trying to claim the opposite??
A skeptical journalist isn't an unpatriotic one
Over the past 18 months or so, I've received more complaints from readers about "unpatriotic" news coverage than any other issue.10 years after Iraq; don't expect any apologies
Back in March 2003, the acronym "WMD" became the stated reason for America's attack on a sovereign nation that would last nine years with 4,480 U.S. deaths.Is it Anti-American to be Anti-War?
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the…
