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If you read the linked article you would have seen the article wasn't about Lincoln specifically, but about the southern strategy. What part of the article do your refute? Are you claiming that the history channel is pushing lies in order to malign Republicans? Really?links, now you expect me to link as if a link is the only truth?
Google is nothing more than Democratic Party propaganda. How about I use books from my library.
How about I post more facts, or you address the facts are already posted instead of ignoring them.
And now instead of discussing the, "southern strategy". You wish to discuss Lincoln?View attachment 791089
uh? What are you talking about and what do you think you linked to?If you read the linked article you would have seen the article wasn't about Lincoln specifically, but about the southern strategy. What part of the article do your refute? Are you claiming that the history channel is pushing lies in order to malign Republicans? Really?
Ok then. Unlike you, I am willing to evaluate your source that supports your contention.
Please feel free to link it. I will be glad to check it out.
Some of the Republicans here are clearly ignorant of their record on race.
The racist history of the Democratic party is well documented. The Democratic Party was founded in 1828. Slavery had been in this country since at least 1619. Slavery existed for 209 years before the democratic party existed. Republicans today love telling blacks how the Democratic Party was pro-slavery and how it was the Republican Party that freed the slaves. There is a lot modern republicans choose not to tell blacks as they try luring blacks into supporting a move back into Jim Crow. First, not all Republicans were for racial equality. The Party had several factions in the beginning. One was the Radical Republicans. The Radical Republicans were for the eradication of slavery. They were not conservatives. Frederick Douglass was a Radical Republican. Lincoln was moderate politically. He opposed the expansion of slavery but did not believe in racial equality.
“I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black ... I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will for ever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be a position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.”
Those who have studied Lincoln claim that his views evolved. Did they? The Second Confiscation Act in 1862 had provisions for the colonization of blacks who chose to leave. Both Dr. Henry Louis Gates and the 1619 Project have written about a meeting between blacks and Lincoln whereby he made insulting comments to them, blamed blacks for the Civil War, and demanded they accept his plan to resettle blacks outside of America. According to both sources, on Aug. 14, 1862, Lincoln met with black representatives at the White House to try getting blacks to accept getting shipped out of the country. They refused.
Arthur Zilversmit, Lincoln and the Problem of Race: A Decade of Interpretations, Journal of the Abraham Lincoln Association, Volume 2, Issue 1, 1980, pp. 22-45, U-M Library Digital Collections j/jala/2629860.0002.104?view=text;rgn=main
Henry Louis Gates Jr., Did Lincoln Want to Ship Black People Back to Africa? https://www.theroot.com/did-lincoln-want-to-ship-black people-back-to-africa-1790858389
End of Pt.1
"Up until the post-World War II period, the party’s hold on the region was so entrenched that Southern politicians usually couldn’t get elected unless they were Democrats. But when President Harry S. Truman, a Democratic Southerner, introduced a pro-civil rights platform at the party’s 1948 convention, a faction walked out.uh? What are you talking about and what do you think you linked to?
It is more than common, almost a rule, that if you link, you quote and comment.
What in your link do you think is relevant to your opinion?
That would be Democrat Strom Thurmond, not a republican. Relying on an article does not tell much of the story."Up until the post-World War II period, the party’s hold on the region was so entrenched that Southern politicians usually couldn’t get elected unless they were Democrats. But when President Harry S. Truman, a Democratic Southerner, introduced a pro-civil rights platform at the party’s 1948 convention, a faction walked out.
These defectors, known as the “Dixiecrats,” held a separate convention in Birmingham, Alabama. There, they nominated South Carolina Governor Strom Thurmond, a staunch opposer of civil rights, to run for president on their “States’ Rights” ticket. Although Thurmond lost the election to Truman, he still won over a million popular votes."
It “was the first time since before the Civil War that the South was not solidly Democratic,” Goldfield says. “And that began the erosion of the southern influence in the Democratic party.”
The "Southern Strategy"? Tell us exactly what that strategy was, be sure to include speeches and such.The beginning of the "switch".
"After that, the majority of the South still continued to vote Democratic because it thought of the Republican party as the party of Abraham Lincoln and Reconstruction. The big break didn’t come until President Johnson, another Southern Democrat, signed the Civil Rights Act in 1964 and the Voting Rights Act in 1965."
"Though some Democrats had switched to the Republican party prior to this, “the defections became a flood” after Johnson signed these acts, Goldfield says. “And so the political parties began to reconstitute themselves.”
Can you link a credible source that supports your contention that the parties didn't switch places, ie the southern strategy?
My mistake.The Republican Party was founded in 1854
The Dred Scott decision was in 1857
and what is that you are speaking of, ignorance and arrogance
Lie down with MAGATS, get up covered in their crap.Yes, I took a long look in the mirror. I see myself, which you do not.
I never ever stated that homosexuals are abominations
I never said all Democrats are socialists/communists
I never said Immigrants are rapists and drug smugglers
...
you are much confused of much, from who the democrats are and were in the dred scott decision, which is fine. I have educated you.Lie down with MAGATS, get up covered in their crap.
Now tell us that LBGTQ+ people
are not "targeting children"
are just people trying to live their lives just like you
Tell us that Democrats
love their country as much as you
are not controlled by some Jewish conspiracy
Tell us you condemn and would never support anyone who would label all Mexicans as rapists and drug smugglers nor would you support anyone agreeing with such a statement.
Get back to us when your head stops exploding.
My mistake.
But the comment still stands.
So you're unwilling to say that LBGTQ+ people are people?you are much confused of much, from who the democrats are and were in the dred scott decision, which is fine. I have educated you.
I see you have a nice CNN education, you have all the talking points down
But unlike your bigoted stereotypes I know the truth.
As a conservative, I can live proud knowing everything and anything you say is pure bullshit. But it does amaze me how it all lives in your hate filled head, which just shows that the delusion that in your mind is no different than any other bigot in history.
A lie. Sure, pre 1965, but check your calendar, it ain't 1965 any more and all those former Democratic racists are now proud Republicans.All through American history, Democrats were the party of racism, just like today. Be black and disagree with them and you'll learn how Democrats still believe in slavery, you're racists and always were
So you're unwilling to say that LBGTQ+ people are people?
A lie. Sure, pre 1965, but check your calendar, it ain't 1965 any more and all those former Democratic racists are now proud Republicans.
That is the world we live in. You proudly associate with racists who clearly reflect your world view.
If that is a question you think you coherently asked, you are delusional.So you're unwilling to say that LBGTQ+ people are people?
The GOP was literally founded as an anti-slavery party to dig by against the democrats. The first President caused the dems to explode into a civil war and he won and freed the slavesSome of the Republicans here are clearly ignorant of their record on race.
The racist history of the Democratic party is well documented. The Democratic Party was founded in 1828. Slavery had been in this country since at least 1619. Slavery existed for 209 years before the democratic party existed. Republicans today love telling blacks how the Democratic Party was pro-slavery and how it was the Republican Party that freed the slaves. There is a lot modern republicans choose not to tell blacks as they try luring blacks into supporting a move back into Jim Crow. First, not all Republicans were for racial equality. The Party had several factions in the beginning. One was the Radical Republicans. The Radical Republicans were for the eradication of slavery. They were not conservatives. Frederick Douglass was a Radical Republican. Lincoln was moderate politically. He opposed the expansion of slavery but did not believe in racial equality.
“I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black ... I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will for ever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be a position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.”
Those who have studied Lincoln claim that his views evolved. Did they? The Second Confiscation Act in 1862 had provisions for the colonization of blacks who chose to leave. Both Dr. Henry Louis Gates and the 1619 Project have written about a meeting between blacks and Lincoln whereby he made insulting comments to them, blamed blacks for the Civil War, and demanded they accept his plan to resettle blacks outside of America. According to both sources, on Aug. 14, 1862, Lincoln met with black representatives at the White House to try getting blacks to accept getting shipped out of the country. They refused.
Arthur Zilversmit, Lincoln and the Problem of Race: A Decade of Interpretations, Journal of the Abraham Lincoln Association, Volume 2, Issue 1, 1980, pp. 22-45, U-M Library Digital Collections j/jala/2629860.0002.104?view=text;rgn=main
Henry Louis Gates Jr., Did Lincoln Want to Ship Black People Back to Africa? https://www.theroot.com/did-lincoln-want-to-ship-black people-back-to-africa-1790858389
End of Pt.1
SS, Medicare, VRA, CRA,...Why did all the leftists around the country join the Democrat party, the party of slave owners, in the 1960s? Was there any reason in addition to your flaming racism?
L peopleIf that is a question you think you coherently asked, you are delusional.
It is a good question now that you have put it in that context.
People are Men, Women, children. LBGTQabcefg are not identifying as such, hence how can I say they are people when they themselves do not wish to be identified as such.
I make no claims, you asked what category the LGBTQ wishes to be classified as, and I simple stated they did not choose the definition you wish to label them as.L people
G people
B people
T People
Q people
+...Includes you.
So you claim you are not a person?
psychological issues I think.
"how can I say they are people"I make no claims, you asked what category the LGBTQ wishes to be classified as, and I simple stated they did not choose the definition you wish to label them as.
Sorry, they have identified themselves, you should respect their wishes instead of looking for people to direct your hatred against.
