Republicans introduce joint resolution proposing Congress Term Limit Amendment

[Oddball]

I like the bill. I would favor it making it effective on all existing members that if you have already served your term limits, you must retire and be replaced at the end of your current term. That would eliminate:

• Chuck Schummer
• Dick Durbin
• Mitch McConnell
• Nancy Pelosi
• Charley Rangel
• Steny Hoyer
• Henry Waxman

to name a few.

Won't ever happen....Though repeal of the 17th very likely would have dispensed with those Senators long ago.

 

[Oddball]

I never said Merchan should recuse himself, I want him castigated by an appeals court for obvious bias all on his own.

No, because old fashioned marriage is and has never been an issue.

And for me same sex marriage isn't an issue when States change their marriage laws to allow for it, the issue is the court forcing it on States that don't want to do that.

The issue is the State being involved in marriage at all...But that concept is far over the heads of the average nose picker who consumes drive-by media pablum.

 

[martybegan]

Lobbyist write the laws, not congress or the executive branch.

Lobbying is specifically allowed by the Constitution.

 

[martybegan]

Like Brown.

Like Plessy.

Brown removed Plessey, Plessey was an abomination like Roe and Chevron.

Plessey gave them something they didn't have in the first place.

 

[jc456]

We don't have a term limits problem, we have an incumbancy problem.

The system has to much emphasis on the current occupant of the office working toward reelection (pandering for money, special interests, etc.) instead of doing their job.

So instead of term limits we need Incumbancy Limits:

• No Federal Elected office holder can run for or be elected to the same or any other federal office in back to back terms. (President, Vice President, Senate, House)
• The holder of a Federal Office must be out of office for at least 1 year from the date of an election to be eligible to run for an elected Fedral Office.
• Current holders of elected Federal Office cannot raise money, campiagn for, or form any type of election committee or PAC for future office while in office.

Simply put you do one term, then leave. If you want to get elected again start from scratch. Remove the incumbency advantage.

WW

basically the corporations and lobbyists already have their money tied into those in office and for the higher level incumbents, one would never get them out of office due to this money buy.

 

[martybegan]

The issue is the State being involved in marriage at all...But that concept is far over the heads of the average nose picker who consumes drive-by media pablum.

It's only involved in Civil marriage due to the advantages and liabilities given by said civil marriage.

 

[Rambunctious]

Look what has happened to the democrat party all run by life long politicians as old as the hills... having to be wheeled out of congress in wheelchairs.... senile old men and women who are voting but can't remember what they had for lunch....

 

[Oddball]

It's only involved in Civil marriage due to the advantages and liabilities given by said civil marriage.

The State involved in marriage because it gives them control over the offspring of that marriage, as The State is now a legally invested and interested 3rd party....It's also a boon to their toadies in the legal bar, who make bank off of divorce laws and court proceedings.

True story.

 

[martybegan]

The State involved in marriage because it gives them control over the offspring of that marriage, as The State is now a legally invested and interested 3rd party....It's also a boon to their toadies in the legal bar, who make bank off of divorce laws and court proceedings.

True story.

It's more than that. powers of attorney, tax filings, property ownership, all sorts of legal things automatically happen between spouses once the marriage license is issued.

 

[Marener]

Brown removed Plessey, Plessey was an abomination like Roe and Chevron.

Plessey gave them something they didn't have in the first place.

Plessy and Dobbs both granted states more power over the people.

You’re taking us backwards.

 

[Oddball]

It's more than that. powers of attorney, tax filings, property ownership, all sorts of legal things automatically happen between spouses once the marriage license is issued.

All of which can be done via private agreements, like power of attorney, etcetera....Also, these issues are covered under the auspices of the common law marriage.

There is no valid reason whatsoever for the existence of the statutory marriage, other than the further strengthening of the power of The State over the individual.

 

[Mac-7]

I doubt that it will go anywhere, but this is the right way to do things.

MSN



They make it a 7 year delay to avoid any ex post facto implications.

Personally I would allow 12 years in congress, but this is a good start.

I’m for term limits, but its not a simple issue

There are pros and cons

For instance could someone serve 12 years in the House and then run for senator?

Or will they all become lobbyists instead of congressman after 12 years?

 

[martybegan]

Plessy and Dobbs both granted states more power over the people.

You’re taking us backwards.

Roe wrongly took it away from the States, Plessey wrongly gave it to them.

You are an SJW-prog bot, only able to spurt out programmed prog talking points.

 

[martybegan]

I’m for term limits, but its not a simple issue

There are pros and cons

For instance could someone serve 12 years in the House and then run for senator?

Or will they all become lobbyists instead of congressman after 12 years?

Actually moving from the House to the Senate is a logical progression.

That's besides my other view that the Senate should go back to being appointed by the States, but one issue at a time.

 

[martybegan]

All of which can be done via private agreements, like power of attorney, etcetera....Also, these issues are covered under the auspices of the common law marriage.

There is no valid reason whatsoever for the existence of the statutory marriage, other than the further strengthening of the power of The State over the individual.

Easier to have one agreement made by the government, especially since a lot of the issues are for government run things.

Government done the proper way can handle this, it's the fact we have allowed government to expand beyond the intent of the founders that is the issue.

 

[Marener]

Roe wrongly took it away from the States, Plessey wrongly gave it to them.

“Wrong” according to your political biased opinion.

The fact remains that you support power grabs. The fact remains that Dobbs and Plessy are similar in this regard.

Roe and Brown are similar in the fact that they preserve rights for the people.

 

[Mac-7]

Actually moving from the House to the Senate is a logical progression.

For some maybe

But not everyone

Then I wonder if congressional staffers will be limited also or can they hang around for life accumulating influence and power?

 

[martybegan]

“Wrong” according to your political biased opinion.

The fact remains that you support power grabs. The fact remains that Dobbs and Plessy are similar in this regard.

Roe and Brown are similar in the fact that they preserve rights for the people.

Wrong according the Constitution as written by the founders and as amended subsequently.

How is returning something to the States a power grab?

Roe made up a constitutional right. You want a constitutional right to an abortion? Make an amendment for it.

 

[Marener]

How is returning something to the States a power grab?

It didn’t “return” it to the states exactly. It took power from the people and gave it to the government.

That’s a power grab. Grabbing it from the people and handing it to the government.

 

[martybegan]

For some maybe

But not everyone

Then I wonder if congressional staffers will be limited also or can they hang around for life accumulating influence and power?

That's an interesting question.

The thing is new people coming in probably would want their own people and not some puppet master running things.

The "overbearing staffer" thing is more a problem when a 30 year office holder starts going senile or stops caring about their job.