Republicans introduce joint resolution proposing Congress Term Limit Amendment

[martybegan]

It didn’t “return” it to the states exactly. It took power from the people and gave it to the government.

That’s a power grab. Grabbing it from the people and handing it to the government.

All government takes power from the people. You seem to enjoy government banning cars, gas stoves, making people use reusable bags, and making them bake cakes they don't want to bake.

The only thing the constitution bans people from doing is owning slaves and transporting alcohol into States and Counties that don't allow alcohol.

 

[Oddball]

Easier to have one agreement made by the government, especially since a lot of the issues are for government run things.

Government done the proper way can handle this, it's the fact we have allowed government to expand beyond the intent of the founders that is the issue.

"Easier" is the bait-and-switch...Fact remains that all of the protections afforded by the statutory marriage can be done with a few easy and inexpensive court filings.

Beside all that, why is it that numerous -if not all- states with the statutory marriage prohibit clergy from officiating the union in absence of the license?...Establishment clause anyone?

...why she swallowed the fly, I'll never know why.

 

[Marener]

All government takes power from the people. You seem to enjoy government banning cars, gas stoves, making people use reusable bags, and making them bake cakes they don't want to bake.

The only thing the constitution bans people from doing is owning slaves and transporting alcohol into States and Counties that don't allow alcohol.

Liberal courts have been on a multi decade project of limiting government authority over people.

You’re turning that back.

 

[martybegan]

"Easier" is the bait-and-switch...Fact remains that all of the protections afforded by the statutory marriage can be done with a few easy and inexpensive court filings.

Beside all that, why is it that numerous -if not all- states with the statutory marriage prohibit clergy from officiating the union in absence of the license?...Establishment clause anyone?

...why she swallowed the fly, I'll never know why.

This is the type of thing we pay government to do. Taking it away from them because they overreach on other shit defeats the purpose of limiting government to said roles.

Clergy can marry anyone they want according to their own traditions. Just don't expect the State to recognize it without a civil license.

All those mormon nuts have plural marriages, they just aren't recognized by the State.

 

[martybegan]

Liberal courts have been on a multi decade project of limiting government authority over people.

You’re turning that back.

You didn't actually respond to my accusation.

Liberal courts support 2nd amendment rights?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It would almost certainly make Congress less functional, not more.

A less functional Congress leads to a more authoritative executive, which I oppose.

Yeah we need to add to the 90,000 pages in the Federal Register...we simply don't have enough laws to function as a free and prosperous society

 

[ThisIsMe]

Better to repeal the 17th Amendment...This would have the effect of defacto term limits in the Senate.

Addition by subtraction.

Uh huh, I see your game, no thanks lol

 

[ThisIsMe]

It would almost certainly make Congress less functional, not more.

A less functional Congress leads to a more authoritative executive, which I oppose.

Think about it, if they are not worried about re election chances for the long term; they might be more apt to do...what's right.

 

[whitehall]

Being a member of MAGA doesn't mean you have to go along with everything republicans dream up. I think congressional term limits re a bad idea. The presumption is that American voters are too stupid to recognize that their representative is becoming ineffective.

 

[Marener]

You didn't actually respond to my accusation.

Liberal courts support 2nd amendment rights?

The actual 2nd amendment or the one that you rewrote?

 

[g5000]

Better to repeal the 17th Amendment...This would have the effect of defacto term limits in the Senate.

Addition by subtraction.

Nope.

There's a reason we have the 17th amendment. Look up the history.

The reason the New Right wants to repeal it is to gain a permanent majority in the Senate.

 

[Oddball]

This is the type of thing we pay government to do. Taking it away from them because they overreach on other shit defeats the purpose of limiting government to said roles.

No, injecting themselves in private affairs is what we pay gubmint NOT to do.

Clergy can marry anyone they want according to their own traditions. Just don't expect the State to recognize it without a civil license.

In most, if not all, states with statutory marriage, clergy are specifically prohibited from officiating the ceremony without the license on hand...You can look it up.

All those mormon nuts have plural marriages, they just aren't recognized by the State.

Irrelevancy is irrelevant.

I've studied this particular issue to death...All you managed to barf up are stale talking points and platitudes of people who haven't done the homework.

Long and short of the matter is that statutory marriages are nothing more complicated or nuanced than a power grab by The State.

 

[Oddball]

Think about it, if they are not worried about re election chances for the long term; they might be more apt to do...what's right.

You asked him to think about it.....ROFLMFAO!

 

[Oddball]

Uh huh, I see your game, no thanks lol

You don't see diddly-shit, s0n.

 

[Marener]

Think about it, if they are not worried about re election chances for the long term; they might be more apt to do...what's right.

That’s actually a very good point.

 

[sartre play]

Or that senators would be less beholden to big business when they don't need the constant injection of cash.

AGREE, Senators way past there useful prime, continue to use the money flow from BIG money to retain their job.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Won't ever happen....Though repeal of the 17th very likely would have dispensed with those Senators long ago.

Totally unrealistic to believe that would happen.

 

[martybegan]

The actual 2nd amendment or the one that you rewrote?

And there we go. It's not rights you are concerned with, it's progressive policies and bullshit that you care about.

 

[martybegan]

No, injecting themselves in private affairs is what we pay gubmint NOT to do.






In most, if not all, states with statutory marriage, clergy are specifically prohibited from officiating the ceremony without the license on hand...You can look it up.

Irrelevancy is irrelevant.

I've studied this particular issue to death...All you managed to barf up are stale talking points and platitudes of people who haven't done the homework.

Long and short of the matter is that statutory marriages are nothing more complicated or nuanced than a power grab by The State.

When marriage allows for certain privileges and liabilities regulated by government, they have to be involved.

Then those laws should be modified to only relate to civil marriages.

They have served a purpose for centuries in US law. To throw them out due to other government overreach is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

If you are going to insult me over a minor disagreement such as this when we agree on so much else, you can go fuck yourself harder than some prog moron.

You should know better, those clowns can't.

 

[sartre play]

Being a member of MAGA doesn't mean you have to go along with everything republicans dream up. I think congressional term limits re a bad idea. The presumption is that American voters are too stupid to recognize that their representative is becoming ineffective.

Its not about being to stupid,
to many of us use party preference
over the time & energy it takes to research what improvements
over many many years they have made or not made to improve their state.