Republicans, here's your chance.

[dblack]

So, why not just go back to the voting rules of say... the 2000s? Would that be so hard?



Or is there some reason you just CAN'T give up the new, oh so easy rules...?

We could. Maybe we should. But that doesn't change the delusional nature of the hardcore Trump supporters. With so many people, so far out to lunch, democracy is doomed in a way a few rules tweaks aren't going to fix.

 

[Correll]

We could. Maybe we should. But that doesn't change the delusional nature of the hardcore Trump supporters. With so many people, so far out to lunch, democracy is doomed in a way a few rules tweaks aren't going to fix.

Wanting the voting to be done on ELECTION day, and in person, like it has been for over two hundred years, is hardly "out to lunch".


And you are up for it. But your party leaders, they aren't. They would rather hold to these new rules, that are undermining faith in the votes.


Mmm, I wonder why they are so determined...

 

[dblack]

Wanting the voting to be done on ELECTION day, and in person, like it has been for over two hundred years, is hardly "out to lunch".

Don't play dumb. The out to lunch comment refers to the common Trumpster belief that the election was, as you said "fixed".

And you are up for it. But your party leaders, they aren't.

My party leaders have no say in the matter. This is all D and R bullshit.

 

[MarcATL]

There's a lot of complaining going on about this spending and taxing program the Democrats are trying to get done. Nothing wrong with that. A strong debate about taxing and spending levels is an important conversation, even if all we seem to do is spend more regardless of the party in power.

So, Republicans, if you're convinced that the country wants lower taxes and lower spending, it seems to me that the 2022 election process is your chance to prove it. But there's just one thing you need to do, to be The Party of Fiscal Responsibility: Cut spending first, then cut taxes.

So here's how the 2022 campaigns would go: GOP candidates from coast to coast would run on first cutting Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Welfare, several departments like the DOE, and then cutting taxes. Be honest with the American people. Be specific on what you would cut, by how much, and how it would affect everyday Americans.

If you win on that platform, you'll know that you have the ideas that America wants. You'll be able to overwhelm Biden with public opinion until you get the White House back in 2024. Then you'll truly be The Party of Fiscal Responsibility.

Agreed?

They can't because they are dishonest.

 

[Mac1958]

Can you have a democracy when a good third of the electorate believes the elections are fixed?

I don't know how. Evidently the goal is to end it.

 

[Mac1958]

They can't because they are dishonest.

Correct. Look at this thread. I offer up a perfectly reasonable idea, and they go full drama queen.

They have no interest in being "fiscally responsible". They just want to claim the title.

 

[sparky]

So here's how the 2022 campaigns would go

The Party of Fiscal Responsibility.

Agreed?

Another regurgitated election pitch to a population with a 5 second attention span Mac

~S~

 

[sparky]

They have no interest in being "fiscally responsible".

well, one can say their expenditures reveal their true constituency mac

~S~

 

[Cellblock2429]

One way is to lower interest rates and increase credit access. This sends money to Wall Street, both from financial institutions (who predict they can make more investing than in lending, for at least a portion of their portfolio) and individuals who will borrow money and invest it, predicting the return is higher than interest paid.

That's one reason a crash can be even worse, after such measures. This can cause sweeping defaults on debt and failures of huge institutions.

/——/ That is accurate and certainly better than your flippant, “sending trillions to Wall Street” remark.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Fair. How many times do I have to say that, before you get it?

/——-/ Fair is fair, but my version of fairness is fairer than yours.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

You seem to think that money is shot into outer space. You are talking about jobs and public services. You wont be denying the government anything, because "the gubmint" is an abstract concept that is just a pass through.

In case you haven't noticed, that's the hidden point of the thread. That is also why exactly ZERO people in the thread have stepped up to meet the challenge. Once actual, concrete programs that exist in what we like to call "reality" are considered, it becomes apparent that there is a human (and a vote) on the other end of them.

So we get treated to overly general declarations of "just slash the budget!" and deflections and little tap dances.

Nope, big govt exists and huge waste and useless jobs can be cut. Its simple as that. There is no deep complex crap going on.

 

[bripat9643]

We could. Maybe we should. But that doesn't change the delusional nature of the hardcore Trump supporters. With so many people, so far out to lunch, democracy is doomed in a way a few rules tweaks aren't going to fix.

What are they deluded about?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

What are they deluded about?

The fact their god lost the election.

 

[bripat9643]

The fact their god lost the election.

That's a debatable claim, not a delusion, you fucking NAZI.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

That's a debatable claim, not a delusion, you fucking NAZI.

It is no more a debatable claim than the earth not being flat is a debatable claim.

 

[bripat9643]

It is no more a debatable claim than the earth not being flat is a debatable claim.

Wrong, dumbass.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Wrong, dumbass.

ohhhh....that will teach me....

 

[dblack]

What are they deluded about?

Nearly everything. It's their go to.

 

[dblack]

That's a debatable claim, not a delusion, you fucking NAZI.

Nazis!!!!!

 

[bendog]

So, why not just go back to the voting rules of say... the 2000s? Would that be so hard?



Or is there some reason you just CAN'T give up the new, oh so easy rules...?

It doesn't matter. The believers in Trump agenda would claim any rules were not followed because the only acceptable result is to have the America First ideology (not that I agree that Trump/Bannon put America first)