Republicans, here's your chance.

[bendog]

Maybe you could post links to all of the multi-trillion dollar spending bills Republicans favored, one after another after another. I will be waiting but I won't be holding my breath.

Iraq, Afghan, Welfare for Farmers in Trade War, Tariffs ... I'm sure there are more. And that doesn't include tax expenditures

 

[g5000]

I’m not totally sure but I think we agree that American needs to restore factory jobs that were given away to china

Manufacturing is not the future of jobs. It takes less and less people to make more and more stuff.

Just like with agriculture. That's where manufacturing is going. It has very little to do with China.

Blaming China is what lazy politicians do. They don't want to, or don't know how to, do the hard work necessary to move our country forward.

 

[bendog]

Manufacturing is not the future of jobs. It takes less and less people to make more and more stuff.

Just like with agriculture. That's where manufacturing is going. It has very little to do with China.

Blaming China is what lazy politicians do. They don't want to, or don't know how to, do the hard work necessary to move our country forward.

The question has been, as jobs move to service sector how can wages grow without inflation. The gop never cared until Trump and he just sold coolaid that all the washing machine and garment union jobs were coming back. As the workforce shrinks, wages may go up, but...... inflation.

The dems tried making educ, daycare, healthcare free to affordable for workers. I thought that overall was a good move for society (not Obamacare and mandates) but it didn't get them anywhere in red states.

 

[Independent thinker]

Iraq, Afghan, Welfare for Farmers in Trade War, Tariffs ... I'm sure there are more. And that doesn't include tax expenditures

I don't think those really qualify as spending bills. And, both Democrats and Republicans have their hands dirty with the items you mentioned.

 

[bendog]

I don't think those really qualify as spending bills. And, both Democrats and Republicans have their hands dirty with the items you mentioned.

Well, there was around 8 trillion in spending.

 

[g5000]

I’m not totally sure but I think we agree that American needs to restore factory jobs that were given away to china

Most of our lost manufacturing jobs did not go to China or anywhere else.

They were automated out of existence.


Auto manufacturing 40 years ago. You can see at least a dozen humans in the photo working on four cars:

Auto manufacturing today. Spot the two humans in this photo. What are they doing?

 

[g5000]

Mac-7
http://conexus.cberdata.org/files/MfgReality.pdf

Almost 88 percent of job losses in manufacturing in recent years can be attributable to productivity growth, and the long-term changes to manufacturing employment are mostly linked to the productivity of American factories.

Not China.

 

[g5000]

Maybe you could post links to all of the multi-trillion dollar spending bills Republicans favored, one after another after another. I will be waiting but I won't be holding my breath.

Do you know who submitted the first trillion dollar budget in history?

Ronald Reagan.

Trump Proposes a Record $4.75 Trillion Budget (Published 2019)

The president’s budget request for the 2020 fiscal year has little chance of becoming law because Congress controls spending, and Democrats control the House.

www.nytimes.com

Tax Cut and Spending Bill Could Cost $5.5 Trillion Through 2029 | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

2019-02-27-The 2017 tax cut and the 2018 spending bill loom large in the latest Congressional Budget Office (CBO) o

www.crfb.org

Senate approves $4 trillion budget bill, paving way for tax reform effort

The Senate passed a $4 trillion budget blueprint Thursday, paving the way to use a special procedural rule to consider tax reform later this year.

www.nbcnews.com

House passes $4.1 trillion budget, the first concrete step toward tax reform

The vote in the House was a narrow 219 to 206, with more than a dozen Republicans voting against the budget.

www.cnbc.com

Federal budget deficit hits $3.1 trillion, more than double the previous record

It is the government's largest annual shortfall, surpassing the previous record of $1.4 trillion set in 2009 after the financial crisis.

www.nbcnews.com

U.S. budget deficit passes $1 trillion mark for fiscal 2019

The U.S. government posted a $200 billion budget deficit in August, bringing the fiscal year-to-date deficit past $1 trillion, according to data released on Thursday by the Treasury Department.

www.reuters.com

There you go! You're welcome.

 

[Mac-7]

Manufacturing is not the future of jobs. It takes less and less people to make more and more stuff.

Ok

If robots are going to take over production I want those bots to be designed, manufactured and operated in America

Which will produce more jobs than they are given credit for

 

[Mac-7]

They were automated out of existence.

I disagree

Most of the factories that closed in America and reopened in china still have human workers

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

False.

Disney 'made US workers train their Indian replacements' lawsuit says.

That we do not have qualified people is a lie to bring in cheap workers.

Sorry, your one-company incident from 5 years ago does not make or prove your point.

We have a shortage of tech workers. It is a fact.

Tech Executives Look to New Administration to Undo Rules Blocking Talent

Recruiters say rolling back restrictions on immigrant work visas, a move backed by President-elect Joe Biden, will help ease a longstanding shortage of tech workers.

www.wsj.com

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Your post is non sequitur.

Ha, you don't know what non sequitur means. But you are doing a fine job of illustrating Mac's point. His voluntary assistant. How nice for him.

 

[Mac1958]

Ha, you don't know what non sequitur means. But you are doing a fine job of illustrating Mac's point. His voluntary assistant. How nice for him.

A bunch of 'em here. They don't even charge.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The democrats have deals in place that pay for both the infrastructure and the spending. The republicans are busy threatening default on Trump's debt. They are not the same.

 

[pknopp]

Sorry, your one-company incident from 5 years ago does not make or prove your point.

We have a shortage of tech workers. It is a fact.

Tech Executives Look to New Administration to Undo Rules Blocking Talent

Recruiters say rolling back restrictions on immigrant work visas, a move backed by President-elect Joe Biden, will help ease a longstanding shortage of tech workers.

www.wsj.com

Not.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Not.

Stomp your feet, that usually works. Or click your ruby slippers together.

 

[pknopp]

Stomp your feet, that usually works. Or click your ruby slippers together.

U.S. companies are forcing workers to train their own foreign replacements

H-1B: Google leads tech giants in foreign-worker court fight

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

U.S. companies are forcing workers to train their own foreign replacements

H-1B: Google leads tech giants in foreign-worker year court fight

Which is abuse of the system. However, there is indeed a shortage of tech workers. Compare your numbers to how many HB1s are issued each year. Not even close. Sorry. That is not the driving force.

 

[pknopp]

Which is abise of the system. However, there is indeed a shortage of yech workers. Compare your numbers to how many HB1s

Yes business wants to bring in cheap labor........I'm not arguing they aren't.

 

[g5000]

Ok

If robots are going to take over production I want those bots to be designed, manufactured and operated in America

Which will produce more jobs than they are given credit for

It's not a one-for-one exchange. Each manufacturing job lost is not replaced with a robot-related job. Otherwise, it would be pointless to switch to automation.

I'm with you on building the bots in the US. However, this comes back to my original point. There will be no room for 8th grade dropouts in the field of automation.

Our future absolutely depends on training our workforce for the highly technical jobs of tomorrow.