Republicans can’t seem to accurately define what socialism is

[bripat9643]

The truth of the matter is that it is a very broad term. It’s something that’s always been apart of the framework of this country yet Repubs like to pretend it is the antithesis of the Founding Father’s philosophy. Republicans have a hard time even defining the term in their OWN WORDS. That alone tells you they lack a basic understanding of the word.

Yet, they know what trickle down is and think it works for them.

"Trickle-down" isn't an actual thing, it's simply economics. The left only calls it "Trickle-Down" because they can only discredit it by calling it something else, and can't debunk it. The fact that you don't know that simply shows how economically illiterate you are.

"Trickle down" is a perjorative term that leftwingers use to refer to the market economy.

 

[bripat9643]

The truth of the matter is that it is a very broad term. It’s something that’s always been apart of the framework of this country yet Repubs like to pretend it is the antithesis of the Founding Father’s philosophy. Republicans have a hard time even defining the term in their OWN WORDS. That alone tells you they lack a basic understanding of the word.

Socialism is when people get together, it's easier to kill people who are individual, it's easier to subjugate people who are individual, so they try and prevent people joining forces to become stronger.

The NRA is encouraged, but Unions are discouraged....

It's when people get together? So is the Klan socialist? Is the Nazi party socialist?

 

[Political Junky]

It's an oppressive economic construct that forcibly confiscates the property of some to give to others who didn't earn it. It's immoral and unethical and hardly surprising that you support it.

Why are the happiest people living in countries you call Socialist?

The countries you call the happiest are where everyone is white. Are you a fucking racist?

Obviously, you have no ability to think.

 

[bripat9643]

It's an oppressive economic construct that forcibly confiscates the property of some to give to others who didn't earn it. It's immoral and unethical and hardly surprising that you support it.

Why are the happiest people living in countries you call Socialist?

The countries you call the happiest are where everyone is white. Are you a fucking racist?

Obviously, you have no ability to think.

You mean they aren't Lilly white? Can you name one that isn't?

 

[forkup]

What's the point of working 3 jobs when you can collect welfare checks, ssi- checks, food stamps, free housing and free healthcare...
And all the benefits for lazy retards...
While most hard working folks are filling for bankruptcy and putting their homes on remortgage ?
America was not built by lazy socialists.

In Europe you don't have to have to work 3 jobs to make ends meet. I work 1 and I'm capable of making the mortgage support my wife and kid go on vacation,send my kid to college and own a decent car. As I said I'm European and pay high taxes. If I get unemployed the government pays me enough so I can survive. I wouldn't be able to make the mortgage but I would have a roof over my head,food in my mouth, healthcare and my kid would still go to college. The fact that even while unemployed I'd still be able to afford this forces the employers to give high enough wages to compete. This makes it that I don't have to work 3 jobs.

 

[Political Junky]

The truth of the matter is that it is a very broad term. It’s something that’s always been apart of the framework of this country yet Repubs like to pretend it is the antithesis of the Founding Father’s philosophy. Republicans have a hard time even defining the term in their OWN WORDS. That alone tells you they lack a basic understanding of the word.

Socialism is when people get together, it's easier to kill people who are individual, it's easier to subjugate people who are individual, so they try and prevent people joining forces to become stronger.

The NRA is encouraged, but Unions are discouraged....

It's when people get together? So is the Klan socialist? Is the Nazi party socialist?

Neither is Socialist.

 

[Political Junky]

What's the point of working 3 jobs when you can collect welfare checks, ssi- checks, food stamps, free housing and free healthcare...
And all the benefits for lazy retards...
While most hard working folks are filling for bankruptcy and putting their homes on remortgage ?
America was not built by lazy socialists.

In Europe you don't have to have to work 3 jobs to make ends meet. I work 1 and I'm capable of making the mortgage support my wife and kid go on vacation,send my kid to college and own a decent car. As I said I'm European and pay high taxes. If I get unemployed the government pays me enough so I can survive. I wouldn't be able to make the mortgage but I would have a roof over my head,food in my mouth, healthcare and my kid would still go to college. The fact that even while unemployed I'd still be able to afford this forces the employers to give high enough wages to compete. This makes it that I don't have to work 3 jobs.

It was once that way in the US. Since Reagan, no.

 

[Political Junky]

Your simplistic view of socialism versus capitalism never fails to amuse me because you don't have the slightest clue about the real history of this country. It was never the intention of the founding fathers to tax the labor of the people that were bartering their time and skills in exchange for something of value...nor did the founding fathers ever want foreign bankers in control of the monetary system that has made debt slaves out of everyone.

But I want to see if you have the balls to answer this question. I work in a very demanding field...one where it takes a toll on my body....especially my hands. It pays well as an electro-mechanical tech. It's a knuclebusting, "hard on the joints" type job that few want to do because of the difficulty of it......so let's just say that instead of turning over half of my wages (of which I am paid in scrip paper that we call Federal Reserve notes) Why should I continue to work and toll if "da gubermint" will simply take care of me? What is the point? I can have half of the compensation my sweat equity affords me so it can be given to someone that will not make the effort to learn a skill or trade...or I can simply choose to get the same benefits by sucking and leeching off of the labor of others? Which is the better option for me, Billy?????

There once was a time in this country....even after the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and the Chapter 11 bankruptcy of 1933 of USA.INC that people were too proud to accept charity and take from others...fast forward to today? We have fabian socialists that want to steal from those with pride and give it to those that don't and they have no problem with it.

I'm doing an equally hard and demanding job. I'm an industrial cleaner. I'm European and as such pay taxes that make an American blanch. I don't particularly mind, considering I earn decent money. I don't have to worry about surviving if I become incapable of working. My kid can go to a decent school, etc, etc. If I wouldn't work as I do, I wouldn't be able to take a vacation, I wouldn't be able to own my own house. I wouldn't be driving a Mercedes. In short I would have a way less comfortable life . I suspect that is the same as you. The difference being that my social safety net insures that me, my wife and my kid will always be insured to have a measure of security that I wouldn't possess if I pay less taxes.

Well said. I hope you will post often.

 

[forkup]

What's the point of working 3 jobs when you can collect welfare checks, ssi- checks, food stamps, free housing and free healthcare...
And all the benefits for lazy retards...
While most hard working folks are filling for bankruptcy and putting their homes on remortgage ?
America was not built by lazy socialists.

In Europe you don't have to have to work 3 jobs to make ends meet. I work 1 and I'm capable of making the mortgage support my wife and kid go on vacation,send my kid to college and own a decent car. As I said I'm European and pay high taxes. If I get unemployed the government pays me enough so I can survive. I wouldn't be able to make the mortgage but I would have a roof over my head,food in my mouth, healthcare and my kid would still go to college. The fact that even while unemployed I'd still be able to afford this forces the employers to give high enough wages to compete. This makes it that I don't have to work 3 jobs.

It was once that way in the US. Since Reagan, no.

My wife's American so I know. We chose to live here for that reason. She misses her home but not living in the US. I just wanted to give actual factual examples of how it is to live in countries that have a strong social safety net, as an antidote against all the people on the right, that post LIKE they know.

 

[forkup]

Your simplistic view of socialism versus capitalism never fails to amuse me because you don't have the slightest clue about the real history of this country. It was never the intention of the founding fathers to tax the labor of the people that were bartering their time and skills in exchange for something of value...nor did the founding fathers ever want foreign bankers in control of the monetary system that has made debt slaves out of everyone.

But I want to see if you have the balls to answer this question. I work in a very demanding field...one where it takes a toll on my body....especially my hands. It pays well as an electro-mechanical tech. It's a knuclebusting, "hard on the joints" type job that few want to do because of the difficulty of it......so let's just say that instead of turning over half of my wages (of which I am paid in scrip paper that we call Federal Reserve notes) Why should I continue to work and toll if "da gubermint" will simply take care of me? What is the point? I can have half of the compensation my sweat equity affords me so it can be given to someone that will not make the effort to learn a skill or trade...or I can simply choose to get the same benefits by sucking and leeching off of the labor of others? Which is the better option for me, Billy?????

There once was a time in this country....even after the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and the Chapter 11 bankruptcy of 1933 of USA.INC that people were too proud to accept charity and take from others...fast forward to today? We have fabian socialists that want to steal from those with pride and give it to those that don't and they have no problem with it.

I'm doing an equally hard and demanding job. I'm an industrial cleaner. I'm European and as such pay taxes that make an American blanch. I don't particularly mind, considering I earn decent money. I don't have to worry about surviving if I become incapable of working. My kid can go to a decent school, etc, etc. If I wouldn't work as I do, I wouldn't be able to take a vacation, I wouldn't be able to own my own house. I wouldn't be driving a Mercedes. In short I would have a way less comfortable life . I suspect that is the same as you. The difference being that my social safety net insures that me, my wife and my kid will always be insured to have a measure of security that I wouldn't possess if I pay less taxes.

Well said. I hope you will post often.

I do.

 

[Norman]

The truth of the matter is that it is a very broad term. It’s something that’s always been apart of the framework of this country yet Repubs like to pretend it is the antithesis of the Founding Father’s philosophy. Republicans have a hard time even defining the term in their OWN WORDS. That alone tells you they lack a basic understanding of the word.

This is the country of freedom.

If you want a country of coercion, I am sure that the country of freedom can provide you a one way ticket right to the oppressive Venezuela.

Seems like that's where you belong.

 

[Norman]

Socialism: The ideology of looting.

 

[forkup]

Socialism: The ideology of looting.

Capitalism: the idea that greed is virtues, and sharing sinful.

 

[kaz]

The truth of the matter is that it is a very broad term. It’s something that’s always been apart of the framework of this country yet Repubs like to pretend it is the antithesis of the Founding Father’s philosophy. Republicans have a hard time even defining the term in their OWN WORDS. That alone tells you they lack a basic understanding of the word.

Socialism may take different forms, but the definition of socialism is clear. It's central economic planning. And only government can centrally plan an economy because only government can use force to compel citizens to do things that is against our own interest.

The opposite of socialism is capitalism, which is distributed economic planning. In capitalism, government is a referee. In socialism, government is a nanny

 

[Political Junky]

The truth of the matter is that it is a very broad term. It’s something that’s always been apart of the framework of this country yet Repubs like to pretend it is the antithesis of the Founding Father’s philosophy. Republicans have a hard time even defining the term in their OWN WORDS. That alone tells you they lack a basic understanding of the word.

Socialism may take different forms, but the definition of socialism is clear. It's central economic planning. And only government can centrally plan an economy because only government can use force to compel citizens to do things that is against our own interest.

The opposite of socialism is capitalism, which is distributed economic planning. In capitalism, government is a referee. In socialism, government is a nanny

BS

 

[kaz]

The truth of the matter is that it is a very broad term. It’s something that’s always been apart of the framework of this country yet Repubs like to pretend it is the antithesis of the Founding Father’s philosophy. Republicans have a hard time even defining the term in their OWN WORDS. That alone tells you they lack a basic understanding of the word.

Socialism is when people get together, it's easier to kill people who are individual, it's easier to subjugate people who are individual, so they try and prevent people joining forces to become stronger.

The NRA is encouraged, but Unions are discouraged....

It's when people get together? So is the Klan socialist? Is the Nazi party socialist?

Neither is Socialist.

Actually, the Nazi party is socialist. Hint, it's the German workers ... socialist ... party.

And they totally were a centrally planned economy, the definition of socialism

 

[Norman]

Socialism: The ideology of looting.

Capitalism: the idea that greed is virtues, and sharing sinful.

That's actually only your idea.

It's the ideology of unimaginable success. Hate to break it to those who live in alternate reality.

Admittedly, you can't just loot your way into success, which results in emotional outbursts for the complete losers of society. Especially those who know that they could achieve but rather choose to sit on their ass and make every possible mistake conceivable, wanting others to pay for it.

Socialism: The ideology so greedy that others have to pay for your mistakes.

That's not sharing by the way, it's looting.

 

[kaz]

The truth of the matter is that it is a very broad term. It’s something that’s always been apart of the framework of this country yet Repubs like to pretend it is the antithesis of the Founding Father’s philosophy. Republicans have a hard time even defining the term in their OWN WORDS. That alone tells you they lack a basic understanding of the word.

Socialism may take different forms, but the definition of socialism is clear. It's central economic planning. And only government can centrally plan an economy because only government can use force to compel citizens to do things that is against our own interest.

The opposite of socialism is capitalism, which is distributed economic planning. In capitalism, government is a referee. In socialism, government is a nanny

BS

I'm just laughing at you. You don't know what you're talking about

 

[kaz]

My wife's American so I know. We chose to live here for that reason. She misses her home but not living in the US

Yeah, sure

 

[kaz]

What's the point of working 3 jobs when you can collect welfare checks, ssi- checks, food stamps, free housing and free healthcare...
And all the benefits for lazy retards...
While most hard working folks are filling for bankruptcy and putting their homes on remortgage ?
America was not built by lazy socialists.

In Europe you don't have to have to work 3 jobs to make ends meet. I work 1 and I'm capable of making the mortgage support my wife and kid go on vacation,send my kid to college and own a decent car. As I said I'm European and pay high taxes. If I get unemployed the government pays me enough so I can survive. I wouldn't be able to make the mortgage but I would have a roof over my head,food in my mouth, healthcare and my kid would still go to college. The fact that even while unemployed I'd still be able to afford this forces the employers to give high enough wages to compete. This makes it that I don't have to work 3 jobs.

It was once that way in the US. Since Reagan, no.

You're full of shit