24 Repub state Attorneys General effectively join the Red Tie Brigade.

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Red states ask court to stop Jack Smith's gag order against Trump in Florida documents case

FIRST ON FOX: A group of 24 Republican state attorneys general have filed an amicus brief in former President Trump's classified documents case, asking a Florida court not to grant special counsel Jack Smith's gag order request, calling it "presumptively unconstitutional."

"Free and fair elections in the United States depend on candidates’ ability to speak about important issues of the day. Attempts to stop a candidate from speaking out harm more than just the candidate. They also hurt the voters, who are denied access to crucial information, and the States, which are responsible for managing elections," the amicus brief filed Monday in the Southern District of Florida stated.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/re...ag-order-against-trump-florida-documents-case

For those of you who are unfamiliar with the term Red Tie Brigade, it is used to refer to the Repub public officials who went to speak outside the courthouse in NY to make baseless allegations about the justice system in Don's defense and were dressed like Trump while doing so. I use the term here metaphorically for the purposes of the thread.

Let's go back and review why Smith was asking for the gag order in the first place. It was in response to Trump's use of boilerplate language in the MAL search warrant to accuse the FBI of wanting to assassinate him. An opportunity he used to spread more right wing conspiracy theories.

It Was Legal Boilerplate. Trump Made It Sound Like a Threat to His Life.

On the day before the F.B.I. obtained a search warrant almost two years ago to look for classified materials at former President Donald J. Trump’s private club and residence in Florida, one of the agents on the case sent a reassuring email to his bosses.

“The F.B.I. intends for the execution of the warrant to be handled in a professional, low key manner,” he wrote, “and to be mindful of the optics of the search.”

And that’s more or less what happened when 30 agents and two federal prosecutors entered the grounds of Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump’s Palm Beach estate, at 8:59 a.m. on Aug. 8, 2022. Over the next 10 hours, according to court papers, there was little drama as they hauled away a trove of boxes containing highly sensitive state secrets in three vans and a rented Ryder box truck.

Two years later, Mr. Trump has tried to flip the facts about that search entirely on their head, in particular by twisting the meaning of boilerplate instructions to the agents about limits on their use of lethal force.

It Was Legal Boilerplate. Trump Made It Sound Like a Threat to His Life.

Two things are worth noting at this point. 1. Trump was not in MAL when the search was conducted. 2. The same language was used in the search warrant issued for Joe Biden's home in the classified docs investigation.

The Through Line: An extremist anti-government conspiracy theory

In light of this background and history, it is tempting to dismiss the claim that President Biden intended to assassinate Trump as silly nonsense. For anyone operating within the bounds of reason, it is easily disproved. But that is the point – the networks of people that believe in such conspiracies are often beyond reason. If such conspiracy-mongering was confined to the fringes of the Internet, as it once was, then its threat to our democracy would be negligible. But those days are long past.

Conspiracy theories, especially those that undermine the public’s confidence in our democratically elected government and institutions, are a core part of Trump’s political platform. These conspiratorial beliefs can culminate in violence, as Americans witnessed on January 6, 2021, when rightwing extremists and other Trump supporters, who falsely but genuinely believed that the 2020 presidential election was stolen, attacked the U.S. Capitol. And this latest episode demonstrates just how rapidly the MAGA network can manufacture and circulate dangerous new conspiracy theories – seemingly out of nothing. Indeed, the speed by which such an obviously false claim spread through the MAGA-verse should be a warning sign during the election period.

Anatomy of MAGA Conspiracy of Assassination Attempt Against Trump: What It Tells Us

What evidence did Smith have leading him to ask for the gag order to protect FBI agents? Among other things..........

Texas man charged with threatening FBI agent involved in Hunter Biden investigation

A Texas man was charged Thursday with threatening a federal agent apparently involved with the Hunter Biden investigation and vowing that agents would be thrown in jail after a new president is elected.

Names are not spelled out in the criminal complaint, but the FBI agent who was threatened “was known to have been involved in an investigation into a laptop belonging to H.B.,” and the threatening call was made Tuesday after “H.B.” was convicted in connection with a 2018 gun purchase, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of Texas said.

Muller in the voicemail also apparently referred to false claims by former President Donald Trump that the 2020 election was stolen as part of threats to the agent, according to the U.S. attorney's office.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ju...ent-involved-hunter-biden-investig-rcna157118

To be clear, it was an extraordinary thing for those 24 Attorneys General to do. Filing an amicus brief in a state, not a federal, court relating to a gag order is simply unheard of. But this is the error of Trumpery so there is no end to the gestures of fidelity required to stay in the good graces of Dear Leader.
 
Red states ask court to stop Jack Smith's gag order against Trump in Florida documents case

FIRST ON FOX: A group of 24 Republican state attorneys general have filed an amicus brief in former President Trump's classified documents case, asking a Florida court not to grant special counsel Jack Smith's gag order request, calling it "presumptively unconstitutional."

"Free and fair elections in the United States depend on candidates’ ability to speak about important issues of the day. Attempts to stop a candidate from speaking out harm more than just the candidate. They also hurt the voters, who are denied access to crucial information, and the States, which are responsible for managing elections," the amicus brief filed Monday in the Southern District of Florida stated.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/re...ag-order-against-trump-florida-documents-case

For those of you who are unfamiliar with the term Red Tie Brigade, it is used to refer to the Repub public officials who went to speak outside the courthouse in NY to make baseless allegations about the justice system in Don's defense and were dressed like Trump while doing so. I use the term here metaphorically for the purposes of the thread.

Let's go back and review why Smith was asking for the gag order in the first place. It was in response to Trump's use of boilerplate language in the MAL search warrant to accuse the FBI of wanting to assassinate him. An opportunity he used to spread more right wing conspiracy theories.

It Was Legal Boilerplate. Trump Made It Sound Like a Threat to His Life.

On the day before the F.B.I. obtained a search warrant almost two years ago to look for classified materials at former President Donald J. Trump’s private club and residence in Florida, one of the agents on the case sent a reassuring email to his bosses.

“The F.B.I. intends for the execution of the warrant to be handled in a professional, low key manner,” he wrote, “and to be mindful of the optics of the search.”

And that’s more or less what happened when 30 agents and two federal prosecutors entered the grounds of Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump’s Palm Beach estate, at 8:59 a.m. on Aug. 8, 2022. Over the next 10 hours, according to court papers, there was little drama as they hauled away a trove of boxes containing highly sensitive state secrets in three vans and a rented Ryder box truck.

Two years later, Mr. Trump has tried to flip the facts about that search entirely on their head, in particular by twisting the meaning of boilerplate instructions to the agents about limits on their use of lethal force.

It Was Legal Boilerplate. Trump Made It Sound Like a Threat to His Life.

Two things are worth noting at this point. 1. Trump was not in MAL when the search was conducted. 2. The same language was used in the search warrant issued for Joe Biden's home in the classified docs investigation.

The Through Line: An extremist anti-government conspiracy theory

In light of this background and history, it is tempting to dismiss the claim that President Biden intended to assassinate Trump as silly nonsense. For anyone operating within the bounds of reason, it is easily disproved. But that is the point – the networks of people that believe in such conspiracies are often beyond reason. If such conspiracy-mongering was confined to the fringes of the Internet, as it once was, then its threat to our democracy would be negligible. But those days are long past.

Conspiracy theories, especially those that undermine the public’s confidence in our democratically elected government and institutions, are a core part of Trump’s political platform. These conspiratorial beliefs can culminate in violence, as Americans witnessed on January 6, 2021, when rightwing extremists and other Trump supporters, who falsely but genuinely believed that the 2020 presidential election was stolen, attacked the U.S. Capitol. And this latest episode demonstrates just how rapidly the MAGA network can manufacture and circulate dangerous new conspiracy theories – seemingly out of nothing. Indeed, the speed by which such an obviously false claim spread through the MAGA-verse should be a warning sign during the election period.

Anatomy of MAGA Conspiracy of Assassination Attempt Against Trump: What It Tells Us

What evidence did Smith have leading him to ask for the gag order to protect FBI agents? Among other things..........

Texas man charged with threatening FBI agent involved in Hunter Biden investigation

A Texas man was charged Thursday with threatening a federal agent apparently involved with the Hunter Biden investigation and vowing that agents would be thrown in jail after a new president is elected.

Names are not spelled out in the criminal complaint, but the FBI agent who was threatened “was known to have been involved in an investigation into a laptop belonging to H.B.,” and the threatening call was made Tuesday after “H.B.” was convicted in connection with a 2018 gun purchase, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of Texas said.

Muller in the voicemail also apparently referred to false claims by former President Donald Trump that the 2020 election was stolen as part of threats to the agent, according to the U.S. attorney's office.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ju...ent-involved-hunter-biden-investig-rcna157118

To be clear, it was an extraordinary thing for those 24 Attorneys General to do. Filing an amicus brief in a state, not a federal, court relating to a gag order is simply unheard of. But this is the error of Trumpery so there is no end to the gestures of fidelity required to stay in the good graces of Dear Leader.

this is not a cult?

if biden did declare a state of emergency and cleaned this entire nest of vipers i would fully understand.
 
this is not a cult?

if biden did declare a state of emergency and cleaned this entire nest of vipers i would fully understand.
The striking thing is how easily Trump took the existence of routine language in the MAL search warrant and used it to falsely make himself out to be.........you guessed it.......a victim. And the unthinking minions uncritically bought it..........AGAIN.

Does that make Trump a master manipulator or does it make The Following willfully easy to manipulate?
 
The striking thing is how easily Trump took the existence of routine language in the MAL search warrant and used it to falsely make himself out to be.........you guessed it.......a victim. And the unthinking minions uncritically bought it..........AGAIN.

Does that make Trump a master manipulator or does it make The Following willfully easy to manipulate?
takes 2 to tango?

if i broke down a few possibilities from "mass hypnosis" to the "power and effectiveness of his logic + communication skills" i think my bet would be on "signed contract with satan."
 

Nothing Unusual About the Mar-a-Lago Operations Plan

As the FBI was compelled to spell out in response to Trump’s Truth Social post, the search of Mar-a-Lago followed the Bureau’s standard operating procedure, which “includes a standard policy statement limiting the use of deadly force.”

The key word here is “limiting.” Most people will not be surprised to know that the FBI, like other law enforcement agencies, is authorized to use deadly force. FBI Special Agents – so named because of the “special” arrest powers that were granted to them in the early part of the twentieth century shortly after J. Edgar Hoover created the agency – are trained in the Justice Department’s deadly force policy almost daily while at the FBI Academy in Quantico. In fact, most newly-minted agents will be able to recite the first portion of the policy by heart: “[The FBI] may use deadly force only when necessary, that is, when the officer believes that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or another person.”
 
One wonders, if Trump is innocent, why his defenders put so much energy in to working to allow him to keep spreading inflammatory lies about the case, the prosecutors, the FBI, the DoJ, pretty much anyone involved in the prosecution? Perhaps because propaganda is his best defense.
 
The striking thing is how easily Trump took the existence of routine language in the MAL search warrant and used it to falsely make himself out to be.........you guessed it.......a victim. And the unthinking minions uncritically bought it..........AGAIN.

Does that make Trump a master manipulator or does it make The Following willfully easy to manipulate?
I think it's both in equal parts.

I'm kinda embarrassed at how easily some of my fellow citizens are to con though.
 
Red states ask court to stop Jack Smith's gag order against Trump in Florida documents case

FIRST ON FOX: A group of 24 Republican state attorneys general have filed an amicus brief in former President Trump's classified documents case, asking a Florida court not to grant special counsel Jack Smith's gag order request, calling it "presumptively unconstitutional."

"Free and fair elections in the United States depend on candidates’ ability to speak about important issues of the day. Attempts to stop a candidate from speaking out harm more than just the candidate. They also hurt the voters, who are denied access to crucial information, and the States, which are responsible for managing elections," the amicus brief filed Monday in the Southern District of Florida stated.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/re...ag-order-against-trump-florida-documents-case

For those of you who are unfamiliar with the term Red Tie Brigade, it is used to refer to the Repub public officials who went to speak outside the courthouse in NY to make baseless allegations about the justice system in Don's defense and were dressed like Trump while doing so. I use the term here metaphorically for the purposes of the thread.

Let's go back and review why Smith was asking for the gag order in the first place. It was in response to Trump's use of boilerplate language in the MAL search warrant to accuse the FBI of wanting to assassinate him. An opportunity he used to spread more right wing conspiracy theories.

It Was Legal Boilerplate. Trump Made It Sound Like a Threat to His Life.

On the day before the F.B.I. obtained a search warrant almost two years ago to look for classified materials at former President Donald J. Trump’s private club and residence in Florida, one of the agents on the case sent a reassuring email to his bosses.

“The F.B.I. intends for the execution of the warrant to be handled in a professional, low key manner,” he wrote, “and to be mindful of the optics of the search.”

And that’s more or less what happened when 30 agents and two federal prosecutors entered the grounds of Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump’s Palm Beach estate, at 8:59 a.m. on Aug. 8, 2022. Over the next 10 hours, according to court papers, there was little drama as they hauled away a trove of boxes containing highly sensitive state secrets in three vans and a rented Ryder box truck.

Two years later, Mr. Trump has tried to flip the facts about that search entirely on their head, in particular by twisting the meaning of boilerplate instructions to the agents about limits on their use of lethal force.

It Was Legal Boilerplate. Trump Made It Sound Like a Threat to His Life.

Two things are worth noting at this point. 1. Trump was not in MAL when the search was conducted. 2. The same language was used in the search warrant issued for Joe Biden's home in the classified docs investigation.

The Through Line: An extremist anti-government conspiracy theory

In light of this background and history, it is tempting to dismiss the claim that President Biden intended to assassinate Trump as silly nonsense. For anyone operating within the bounds of reason, it is easily disproved. But that is the point – the networks of people that believe in such conspiracies are often beyond reason. If such conspiracy-mongering was confined to the fringes of the Internet, as it once was, then its threat to our democracy would be negligible. But those days are long past.

Conspiracy theories, especially those that undermine the public’s confidence in our democratically elected government and institutions, are a core part of Trump’s political platform. These conspiratorial beliefs can culminate in violence, as Americans witnessed on January 6, 2021, when rightwing extremists and other Trump supporters, who falsely but genuinely believed that the 2020 presidential election was stolen, attacked the U.S. Capitol. And this latest episode demonstrates just how rapidly the MAGA network can manufacture and circulate dangerous new conspiracy theories – seemingly out of nothing. Indeed, the speed by which such an obviously false claim spread through the MAGA-verse should be a warning sign during the election period.

Anatomy of MAGA Conspiracy of Assassination Attempt Against Trump: What It Tells Us

What evidence did Smith have leading him to ask for the gag order to protect FBI agents? Among other things..........

Texas man charged with threatening FBI agent involved in Hunter Biden investigation

A Texas man was charged Thursday with threatening a federal agent apparently involved with the Hunter Biden investigation and vowing that agents would be thrown in jail after a new president is elected.

Names are not spelled out in the criminal complaint, but the FBI agent who was threatened “was known to have been involved in an investigation into a laptop belonging to H.B.,” and the threatening call was made Tuesday after “H.B.” was convicted in connection with a 2018 gun purchase, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of Texas said.

Muller in the voicemail also apparently referred to false claims by former President Donald Trump that the 2020 election was stolen as part of threats to the agent, according to the U.S. attorney's office.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ju...ent-involved-hunter-biden-investig-rcna157118

To be clear, it was an extraordinary thing for those 24 Attorneys General to do. Filing an amicus brief in a state, not a federal, court relating to a gag order is simply unheard of. But this is the error of Trumpery so there is no end to the gestures of fidelity required to stay in the good graces of Dear Leader.
First Amendment.

/thread.
 
Exactly. Good on these AGs fighting the fascism of the Biden regime.
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I think it's both in equal parts.

I'm kinda embarrassed at how easily some of my fellow citizens are to con though.
I still recall the shocked feeling I got the night Trump was elected that so many Americans were susceptible to buying in to his clownish bluster that they voted for an unqualified buffoon. I haven't felt the same about Repubs ever since.
 

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