Republican hatred for the President of the United States endangers the entire world

[Antares]

These negotiations with Iran include the largest European countries along with Russia and China. Plus the rest of the world is already involved. Even Japan, South Korea and Brazil follow the sanctions currently in place.

Expect even Netanyahu to walk back his position.

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Imagine if a US president broadcast such a message, warning the white electorate that black voters were heading to the polls in “large numbers”. Or if a European prime minister said: “Quick, the Jews are voting!” This is the moral gutter into which Netanyahu plunged just to get elected.

Netanyahu sank into the moral gutter - and there will be consequences Jonathan Freedland Comment is free The Guardian

Then he went on to say:

Mindful of the damage his win-at-all-costs moves had wrought, Netanyahu lost no time trying to unsay what he had said. In his victory speech, he promised to be prime minister of all Israelis, Jewish and non-Jewish alike. And in a US TV interview on Thursday, he insisted that he does want a “sustainable, peaceful two-state solution” after all, so long as “circumstances” change.
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Like a typical right winger, he terrorized his own base into voting for him and walked back the "terror" only days after the election. Clearly, right wingers have very short memories beyond "we WON!". Unfortunately for them, everyone else's memories are much longer.

No country has ever been coerced into not developing nuclear weapons. They have always been negotiated into it. Obviously with sanctions being part of that negotiation. Ignorant ass Republicans say "bomb them out of existence" in spite of the fact that would turn the entire world's Muslims against us at a time when they are fighting each other. Fuck 'em. Let them fight each other. Stop the Republicans from putting Americans in the middle.
Worse, it's not a case of a single bomb run. It would take thousands over months or years. Iraq has had decades to build secret underground bunkers all over the country. Even if we found them all, there's no guarantee we could do much against them depending how reinforced they are and how deep underground and how well hidden.

This is all about "hate Obama" and Republicans don't care if they put the economy in the shitter, screw over their own base or threaten the safety of the entire world if they think they can just "embarrass" Obama. They want to embarrass the president and will do anything they can, no matter how much it threatens all of us if only they can. They think they will "teach him a lesson".

Hmmmm, I've already shown you that Iran/China/Russia have a mutual defense treaty in place....

What does that have to do with nuclear weapons?

I'm guessing you see no conflict of interest here...

Because Russia and China may have some kind of defense treaty with Iran doesn't mean they want Iran to have nuclear weapons. Otherwise, they wouldn't support the sanctions. How can you not know that?

"
Iranian Deputy Oil Minister for Planning Mansour Moazzemi announced that the country has started a new set of cooperation with Russia and China to confront the sanctions imposed by the West.
“We have started a serious job with the Chinese and Russians (in the energy sector) in such a strong way that the oil minister has now been appointed as the head of Iran-Russia joint economic commission instead of the foreign minister and we have started a good job to make use of the common capacities and capabilities,” Moazzemi said in a press conference at the venue of the oil ministry on Monday.

Iran-Russia-China Axis to Fight Western Sanctions Global Research

I'm sorry,what?

 

[Dragonlady]

The logic of the Op's statement FAILS on more then a few points.
1, Obama has dissed or demeaned every free nation on the globe.
NOT Republicans fault.
2, Obama has made ties to terrorist groups STRONGER.
NOT Republicans fault.
3, Obama seeks to make ties to Communist countries STRONGER.
NOT republicans fault.
4, Obama has made the debt higher then ALL presidents COMBINED.
NOT Republicans fault.

YOUR argument fails on MANY more points but those are just the highlights.

Obama has built stronger ties with the rest of the world. The notion that he has ties to terrorist groups is not only nonsense, it is dangerous nonsense. He did more to thwart terrorists than Bush ever did.

There are no communist countries left except Cuba.

The debt is most certainly the fault of Republicans. They're the ones who cut taxes and then embarked on the most expensive war the world has ever seen - not to mention they increased the earned income credits and Medicaid Part D - all of which was unfunded. Then for good measure, they crashed the economy, You break it, you own it.

 

[Antares]

The logic of the Op's statement FAILS on more then a few points.
1, Obama has dissed or demeaned every free nation on the globe.
NOT Republicans fault.
2, Obama has made ties to terrorist groups STRONGER.
NOT Republicans fault.
3, Obama seeks to make ties to Communist countries STRONGER.
NOT republicans fault.
4, Obama has made the debt higher then ALL presidents COMBINED.
NOT Republicans fault.

YOUR argument fails on MANY more points but those are just the highlights.

Obama has built stronger ties with the rest of the world. The notion that he has ties to terrorist groups is not only nonsense, it is dangerous nonsense. He did more to thwart terrorists than Bush ever did.

There are no communist countries left except Cuba.

The debt is most certainly the fault of Republicans. They're the ones who cut taxes and then embarked on the most expensive war the world has ever seen - not to mention they increased the earned income credits and Medicaid Part D - all of which was unfunded. Then for good measure, they crashed the economy, You break it, you own it.

Moron alert!!!!!!

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I tend to think obie hatred of America endangers the world. If we had a president with some balls we wouldn't be in this position today. obie doesn't like the USA or Israel. And that endangers the world.

 

[Antares]

The logic of the Op's statement FAILS on more then a few points.
1, Obama has dissed or demeaned every free nation on the globe.
NOT Republicans fault.
2, Obama has made ties to terrorist groups STRONGER.
NOT Republicans fault.
3, Obama seeks to make ties to Communist countries STRONGER.
NOT republicans fault.
4, Obama has made the debt higher then ALL presidents COMBINED.
NOT Republicans fault.

YOUR argument fails on MANY more points but those are just the highlights.

Obama has built stronger ties with the rest of the world. The notion that he has ties to terrorist groups is not only nonsense, it is dangerous nonsense. He did more to thwart terrorists than Bush ever did.

There are no communist countries left except Cuba.

The debt is most certainly the fault of Republicans. They're the ones who cut taxes and then embarked on the most expensive war the world has ever seen - not to mention they increased the earned income credits and Medicaid Part D - all of which was unfunded. Then for good measure, they crashed the economy, You break it, you own it.

Let's see......

2009 the Iranian PEOPLE were rising up....Hussein wouldn't help.

He cheered when the Muslim Brotherhood took over in Egypt....the "Arab Spring".....the Egyptian economy tanked and the people and the military overthrew them...and Hussein Obama has been pouting ever since.

Barak loves him some Hamas....hence the Bibi feud.

Barak loves him some Iranian Mullahs....who happen to believe that they need the bomb to get their Imam to come home.

Yes you lefty's are an ignorant breed

 

[Dragonlady]

"
Iranian Deputy Oil Minister for Planning Mansour Moazzemi announced that the country has started a new set of cooperation with Russia and China to confront the sanctions imposed by the West.
“We have started a serious job with the Chinese and Russians (in the energy sector) in such a strong way that the oil minister has now been appointed as the head of Iran-Russia joint economic commission instead of the foreign minister and we have started a good job to make use of the common capacities and capabilities,” Moazzemi said in a press conference at the venue of the oil ministry on Monday.

Iran-Russia-China Axis to Fight Western Sanctions Global Research

I'm sorry,what?

Your link to an article written by "Canada's nuttiest professor" is duly noted.

In a 2006 Western Standard article by Terry O'Neill, Chossudovsky was included among "Canada's nuttiest professors", "whose absurdity stands head and shoulders above their colleagues" and who were "peddling half-baked or discredited theories or plain old bigotry".[20] Chussodovsky was said to hold that the U.S. had fore-knowledge of the September 11 attacks and the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami; that Washington had weapons that could influence climate change; and that the large banking institutions are the cause of the collapse of smaller economies, characterised by O'Neill as " more like wild-eyed conspiracy theories than serious political discourse".

 

[Antares]

"
Iranian Deputy Oil Minister for Planning Mansour Moazzemi announced that the country has started a new set of cooperation with Russia and China to confront the sanctions imposed by the West.
“We have started a serious job with the Chinese and Russians (in the energy sector) in such a strong way that the oil minister has now been appointed as the head of Iran-Russia joint economic commission instead of the foreign minister and we have started a good job to make use of the common capacities and capabilities,” Moazzemi said in a press conference at the venue of the oil ministry on Monday.

Iran-Russia-China Axis to Fight Western Sanctions Global Research

I'm sorry,what?

Your link to an article written by "Canada's nuttiest professor" is duly noted.

In a 2006 Western Standard article by Terry O'Neill, Chossudovsky was included among "Canada's nuttiest professors", "whose absurdity stands head and shoulders above their colleagues" and who were "peddling half-baked or discredited theories or plain old bigotry".[20] Chussodovsky was said to hold that the U.S. had fore-knowledge of the September 11 attacks and the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami; that Washington had weapons that could influence climate change; and that the large banking institutions are the cause of the collapse of smaller economies, characterised by O'Neill as " more like wild-eyed conspiracy theories than serious political discourse".

Let's see......

2009 the Iranian PEOPLE were rising up....Hussein wouldn't help.

He cheered when the Muslim Brotherhood took over in Egypt....the "Arab Spring".....the Egyptian economy tanked and the people and the military overthrew them...and Hussein Obama has been pouting ever since.

Barak loves him some Hamas....hence the Bibi feud.

Barak loves him some Iranian Mullahs....who happen to believe that they need the bomb to get their Imam to come home.

Yes you lefty's are an ignorant breed...and you lose honey.

Now can you prove him wrong, or am I just to take your word that he is wrong?

I have posted sources, you are simply saying "nuh-uh"

 

[Dot Com]

The obastard should do the right thing and resign taking his whole regime with him.

you are a jackass Tipsycatlover

as to the OP, jackasses like tipsycatlover are a case-in-point of ODS

 

[Dragonlady]

Let's see......

2009 the Iranian PEOPLE were rising up....Hussein wouldn't help.

He cheered when the Muslim Brotherhood took over in Egypt....the "Arab Spring".....the Egyptian economy tanked and the people and the military overthrew them...and Hussein Obama has been pouting ever since.

Barak loves him some Hamas....hence the Bibi feud.

Barak loves him some Iranian Mullahs....who happen to believe that they need the bomb to get their Imam to come home.

Yes you lefty's are an ignorant breed

Obama has pretty much stayed out of the Middle East which is a wise decision. They're all full of hate for one another and the tribalism goes back thousands of years. He got the hell out of the mess that Bush made of Iraq and he's stayed out of power vacuum wars which were the result of Bush's intervention in Iraq.

You're pissed off with this behavior exactly why? Did you want the US to continue to piss and radicalize the Muslims? Now they've gone back to killing one another. Much less chance of the entire world going to war again. What would have had Obama do in the Middle East. Staying in Iraq was not an option.

 

[Antares]

Let's see......

2009 the Iranian PEOPLE were rising up....Hussein wouldn't help.

He cheered when the Muslim Brotherhood took over in Egypt....the "Arab Spring".....the Egyptian economy tanked and the people and the military overthrew them...and Hussein Obama has been pouting ever since.

Barak loves him some Hamas....hence the Bibi feud.

Barak loves him some Iranian Mullahs....who happen to believe that they need the bomb to get their Imam to come home.

Yes you lefty's are an ignorant breed

Obama has pretty much stayed out of the Middle East which is a wise decision. They're all full of hate for one another and the tribalism goes back thousands of years. He got the hell out of the mess that Bush made of Iraq and he's stayed out of power vacuum wars which were the result of Bush's intervention in Iraq.

You're pissed off with this behavior exactly why? Did you want the US to continue to piss and radicalize the Muslims? Now they've gone back to killing one another. Much less chance of the entire world going to war again. What would have had Obama do in the Middle East. Staying in Iraq was not an option.

Honey you aren't very bright, re read my post Obama hasn't stayed out of anything and the ME is a mess.

We aren't radicalizing anyone, that's what Islam is.

Egypt, Libya, Syria, Israel, Gaza, Iraq are all fucked up because Obama hasn't a clue as to what he is doing.

 

[Antares]

"
Iranian Deputy Oil Minister for Planning Mansour Moazzemi announced that the country has started a new set of cooperation with Russia and China to confront the sanctions imposed by the West.
“We have started a serious job with the Chinese and Russians (in the energy sector) in such a strong way that the oil minister has now been appointed as the head of Iran-Russia joint economic commission instead of the foreign minister and we have started a good job to make use of the common capacities and capabilities,” Moazzemi said in a press conference at the venue of the oil ministry on Monday.

Iran-Russia-China Axis to Fight Western Sanctions Global Research

I'm sorry,what?

Your link to an article written by "Canada's nuttiest professor" is duly noted.

In a 2006 Western Standard article by Terry O'Neill, Chossudovsky was included among "Canada's nuttiest professors", "whose absurdity stands head and shoulders above their colleagues" and who were "peddling half-baked or discredited theories or plain old bigotry".[20] Chussodovsky was said to hold that the U.S. had fore-knowledge of the September 11 attacks and the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami; that Washington had weapons that could influence climate change; and that the large banking institutions are the cause of the collapse of smaller economies, characterised by O'Neill as " more like wild-eyed conspiracy theories than serious political discourse".

"
Let's see......

2009 the Iranian PEOPLE were rising up....Hussein wouldn't help.

He cheered when the Muslim Brotherhood took over in Egypt....the "Arab Spring".....the Egyptian economy tanked and the people and the military overthrew them...and Hussein Obama has been pouting ever since.

Barak loves him some Hamas....hence the Bibi feud.

Barak loves him some Iranian Mullahs....who happen to believe that they need the bomb to get their Imam to come home.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The logic of the Op's statement FAILS on more then a few points.
1, Obama has dissed or demeaned every free nation on the globe.
NOT Republicans fault.
2, Obama has made ties to terrorist groups STRONGER.
NOT Republicans fault.
3, Obama seeks to make ties to Communist countries STRONGER.
NOT republicans fault.
4, Obama has made the debt higher then ALL presidents COMBINED.
NOT Republicans fault.

YOUR argument fails on MANY more points but those are just the highlights.

None of those are true and you know it. Putting it in bold doesn't make them true. And you also know that. And if you make such statements, you better back it up with video or links. And you also know that.

Most on the right don't care about the truth, they're only interested in repeating their lies often enough in the hope they're perceived to be true.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

The logic of the Op's statement FAILS on more then a few points.
1, Obama has dissed or demeaned every free nation on the globe.
NOT Republicans fault.
2, Obama has made ties to terrorist groups STRONGER.
NOT Republicans fault.
3, Obama seeks to make ties to Communist countries STRONGER.
NOT republicans fault.
4, Obama has made the debt higher then ALL presidents COMBINED.
NOT Republicans fault.

YOUR argument fails on MANY more points but those are just the highlights.

None of those are true and you know it. Putting it in bold doesn't make them true. And you also know that. And if you make such statements, you better back it up with video or links. And you also know that.

Most on the right don't care about the truth, they're only interested in repeating their lies often enough in the hope they're perceived to be true.

Isn't it kind of hard to ignore the truth when all of the evidence is pointing you that way? The only person in this conversation is obie and he's never told the truth. So why would our perception of him ever change by you going after us to look at the truth? When the truth is right there for everyone to see in his actions. If you want us all to believe in obie for the truth maybe he should actually provide some truth. In order to cling to obies truths you have to ignore everything he says is a lie. And in order to do that you have to be one of the dumbest most gullible people on the planet.

 

[Dragonlady]

"
Iranian Deputy Oil Minister for Planning Mansour Moazzemi announced that the country has started a new set of cooperation with Russia and China to confront the sanctions imposed by the West.
“We have started a serious job with the Chinese and Russians (in the energy sector) in such a strong way that the oil minister has now been appointed as the head of Iran-Russia joint economic commission instead of the foreign minister and we have started a good job to make use of the common capacities and capabilities,” Moazzemi said in a press conference at the venue of the oil ministry on Monday.

Iran-Russia-China Axis to Fight Western Sanctions Global Research

I'm sorry,what?

Your link to an article written by "Canada's nuttiest professor" is duly noted.

In a 2006 Western Standard article by Terry O'Neill, Chossudovsky was included among "Canada's nuttiest professors", "whose absurdity stands head and shoulders above their colleagues" and who were "peddling half-baked or discredited theories or plain old bigotry".[20] Chussodovsky was said to hold that the U.S. had fore-knowledge of the September 11 attacks and the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami; that Washington had weapons that could influence climate change; and that the large banking institutions are the cause of the collapse of smaller economies, characterised by O'Neill as " more like wild-eyed conspiracy theories than serious political discourse".

"
Let's see......

2009 the Iranian PEOPLE were rising up....Hussein wouldn't help.

He cheered when the Muslim Brotherhood took over in Egypt....the "Arab Spring".....the Egyptian economy tanked and the people and the military overthrew them...and Hussein Obama has been pouting ever since.

Barak loves him some Hamas....hence the Bibi feud.

Barak loves him some Iranian Mullahs....who happen to believe that they need the bomb to get their Imam to come home.

Repeating lies endlessly doesn't make it any less full of shit than it was the first time you posted it.

And you still haven't said what it is you would have Obama do.

The ME has been a mess since Christ walked by the earth. It was a mess then and it still is. What exactly would you have had Obama do to make things different than they are today?

 

[Dragonlady]

double post

 

[Missouri_Mike]

"
Iranian Deputy Oil Minister for Planning Mansour Moazzemi announced that the country has started a new set of cooperation with Russia and China to confront the sanctions imposed by the West.
“We have started a serious job with the Chinese and Russians (in the energy sector) in such a strong way that the oil minister has now been appointed as the head of Iran-Russia joint economic commission instead of the foreign minister and we have started a good job to make use of the common capacities and capabilities,” Moazzemi said in a press conference at the venue of the oil ministry on Monday.

Iran-Russia-China Axis to Fight Western Sanctions Global Research

I'm sorry,what?

Your link to an article written by "Canada's nuttiest professor" is duly noted.

In a 2006 Western Standard article by Terry O'Neill, Chossudovsky was included among "Canada's nuttiest professors", "whose absurdity stands head and shoulders above their colleagues" and who were "peddling half-baked or discredited theories or plain old bigotry".[20] Chussodovsky was said to hold that the U.S. had fore-knowledge of the September 11 attacks and the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami; that Washington had weapons that could influence climate change; and that the large banking institutions are the cause of the collapse of smaller economies, characterised by O'Neill as " more like wild-eyed conspiracy theories than serious political discourse".

"
Let's see......

2009 the Iranian PEOPLE were rising up....Hussein wouldn't help.

He cheered when the Muslim Brotherhood took over in Egypt....the "Arab Spring".....the Egyptian economy tanked and the people and the military overthrew them...and Hussein Obama has been pouting ever since.

Barak loves him some Hamas....hence the Bibi feud.

Barak loves him some Iranian Mullahs....who happen to believe that they need the bomb to get their Imam to come home.

Repeating lies endlessly doesn't make it any less full of shit than it was the first time you posted it.

And you still haven't said what it is you would have Obama do.

The ME has been a mess since Christ walked by the earth. It was a mess then and it still is. What exactly would you have had Obama do to make things different than they are today?

I'm thinking maybe thee leader of thee free world should be the first one to stop lying. Would that be crazy to expect? The liar we all need to call on the carpet is obie. If he ever told the truth the world would probably stop turning. It doesn't help your case when you are calling others liars in defense of a man that has never told the truth in his life.

 

[Billy000]

Let's see......

2009 the Iranian PEOPLE were rising up....Hussein wouldn't help.

He cheered when the Muslim Brotherhood took over in Egypt....the "Arab Spring".....the Egyptian economy tanked and the people and the military overthrew them...and Hussein Obama has been pouting ever since.

Barak loves him some Hamas....hence the Bibi feud.

Barak loves him some Iranian Mullahs....who happen to believe that they need the bomb to get their Imam to come home.

Yes you lefty's are an ignorant breed

Obama has pretty much stayed out of the Middle East which is a wise decision. They're all full of hate for one another and the tribalism goes back thousands of years. He got the hell out of the mess that Bush made of Iraq and he's stayed out of power vacuum wars which were the result of Bush's intervention in Iraq.

You're pissed off with this behavior exactly why? Did you want the US to continue to piss and radicalize the Muslims? Now they've gone back to killing one another. Much less chance of the entire world going to war again. What would have had Obama do in the Middle East. Staying in Iraq was not an option.

Honey you aren't very bright, re read my post Obama hasn't stayed out of anything and the ME is a mess.

We aren't radicalizing anyone, that's what Islam is.

Egypt, Libya, Syria, Israel, Gaza, Iraq are all fucked up because Obama hasn't a clue as to what he is doing.

And yet you can't attribute anything Obama did to fuck them all up.

 

[rdean]

"Republican hatred for the President of the United States endangers the entire world"

Republican hatred for the President of the United States is partisan and unwarranted; and it's certainly been detrimental to the Nation as a whole, where most on the right, rather than doing what was best for the country, instead sought only to make Obama a 'one term president.'

You confuse hatred with disdain and contempt and mistrust.

It's hatred and disdain based on contempt and racism. We know Republicans have mistrust. They mistrust science and education. Which is unfortunate. Since people with an education have less mistrust because they "know".

 

[rdean]

"
Iranian Deputy Oil Minister for Planning Mansour Moazzemi announced that the country has started a new set of cooperation with Russia and China to confront the sanctions imposed by the West.
“We have started a serious job with the Chinese and Russians (in the energy sector) in such a strong way that the oil minister has now been appointed as the head of Iran-Russia joint economic commission instead of the foreign minister and we have started a good job to make use of the common capacities and capabilities,” Moazzemi said in a press conference at the venue of the oil ministry on Monday.

Iran-Russia-China Axis to Fight Western Sanctions Global Research

I'm sorry,what?

Your link to an article written by "Canada's nuttiest professor" is duly noted.

In a 2006 Western Standard article by Terry O'Neill, Chossudovsky was included among "Canada's nuttiest professors", "whose absurdity stands head and shoulders above their colleagues" and who were "peddling half-baked or discredited theories or plain old bigotry".[20] Chussodovsky was said to hold that the U.S. had fore-knowledge of the September 11 attacks and the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami; that Washington had weapons that could influence climate change; and that the large banking institutions are the cause of the collapse of smaller economies, characterised by O'Neill as " more like wild-eyed conspiracy theories than serious political discourse".

"
Let's see......

2009 the Iranian PEOPLE were rising up....Hussein wouldn't help.

He cheered when the Muslim Brotherhood took over in Egypt....the "Arab Spring".....the Egyptian economy tanked and the people and the military overthrew them...and Hussein Obama has been pouting ever since.

Barak loves him some Hamas....hence the Bibi feud.

Barak loves him some Iranian Mullahs....who happen to believe that they need the bomb to get their Imam to come home.

Repeating lies endlessly doesn't make it any less full of shit than it was the first time you posted it.

And you still haven't said what it is you would have Obama do.

The ME has been a mess since Christ walked by the earth. It was a mess then and it still is. What exactly would you have had Obama do to make things different than they are today?

I'm thinking maybe thee leader of thee free world should be the first one to stop lying. Would that be crazy to expect? The liar we all need to call on the carpet is obie. If he ever told the truth the world would probably stop turning. It doesn't help your case when you are calling others liars in defense of a man that has never told the truth in his life.

Lying about what?

 

[rdean]

Let's see......

2009 the Iranian PEOPLE were rising up....Hussein wouldn't help.

He cheered when the Muslim Brotherhood took over in Egypt....the "Arab Spring".....the Egyptian economy tanked and the people and the military overthrew them...and Hussein Obama has been pouting ever since.

Barak loves him some Hamas....hence the Bibi feud.

Barak loves him some Iranian Mullahs....who happen to believe that they need the bomb to get their Imam to come home.

Yes you lefty's are an ignorant breed

Obama has pretty much stayed out of the Middle East which is a wise decision. They're all full of hate for one another and the tribalism goes back thousands of years. He got the hell out of the mess that Bush made of Iraq and he's stayed out of power vacuum wars which were the result of Bush's intervention in Iraq.

You're pissed off with this behavior exactly why? Did you want the US to continue to piss and radicalize the Muslims? Now they've gone back to killing one another. Much less chance of the entire world going to war again. What would have had Obama do in the Middle East. Staying in Iraq was not an option.

Honey you aren't very bright, re read my post Obama hasn't stayed out of anything and the ME is a mess.

We aren't radicalizing anyone, that's what Islam is.

Egypt, Libya, Syria, Israel, Gaza, Iraq are all fucked up because Obama hasn't a clue as to what he is doing.

And yet you can't attribute anything Obama did to fuck them all up.

Thank God Bush didn't do anything to fuck up Iraq. He only got rid of the Sunni's, who are now Isis. And turned Iraq into Iran's greatest ally. And all it cost were tens of thousands of Americans dead and maimed and a couple of trillion dollars.