Republican bill stops funding to states issuing DL's to illegals

[Ray From Cleveland]

pulling in that illegal to run that backhoe or front end loader

You're uninformed. Most places REQUIRE a license to run that equipment or at the very least a trade school certificate.
Those are not the jobs the illegals are taking. They are taking the low and no skill job positions. Like fry cook and laborer

They are in all kinds of fields of different work. That's the problem.

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Like I said UNSKILLED jobs. And dunno why CITIZENS are included in that lol

Simply pointing out that they are not just in service and agriculture. And as the picture shows, they exceed Americans in holding some skilled jobs, which of course means lowering our wages.

My father is a bricklayer, and when the weather turned crappy, he went on unemployment for the winter season. One year he found out that they were in need of bricklayers in Florida, so he was going to go down there for the season instead. Then he found out they were making less than half of what he made up here. He was better of just going on unemployment. But they had a lot of foreigners down there willing to do the work for nothing.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

pulling in that illegal to run that backhoe or front end loader

You're uninformed. Most places REQUIRE a license to run that equipment or at the very least a trade school certificate.
Those are not the jobs the illegals are taking. They are taking the low and no skill job positions. Like fry cook and laborer

If I am running a non union privately owned site, most states stay out of my business except in the case of something like Public Safety like Electrics, Gas and Water. For moving dirt, if I own the property, own the backhoe and own the dirt then I can have Peewee Herman run that backhoe without a license.

Dunno where you live or what kind of illegal operation you are running but every jobsite goes through inspections and even OSHA has its nose on every jobsite.

You're eith full of it or don't care about any permit and construction requirement.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Does Canada issue drivers licenses to illegal aliens and if not then why is your country so hateful?

If you are going to use such info to make a point, you really should look it up for yourself

Why?

I am asking her and better yet name any country that issues legal drivers licenses to illegal Immigrats besides the States within our Union?

When you realize none of them do then explain why the U.S. should be forced to do so?

They are not forced to, they do it optionally. They want to make it as inviting to illegals as they can, so they offer illegals drivers licenses. That's why Trump wants to cutoff some of their federal funds.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I just don't give Rump a free ride like you do. Rump Industries use Illegal Workers all the time. Rumps prized construction is build on the backs of illegals. It's not political. It's business. And it's illegal. It's just that it's been proven that Mar-a-Largo was originally built by illegals. That's not political, that just fact. Rump is just the highest profile business that it's been proven. Of course, the other one was fined something in the neighborhood between 50 and 90 million bucks. Now, that sounds like a lot but when you are talking about a multi billion dollar industry, that doesn't even bother a company. They pay the fine and just do it again since it will take the Feds another 5 years to get another conviction in a federal court. In the meantime, it's worth billions in profits. You don't like Rump Industries brought up about it, stop giving Rump a free ride on it. It's not politics, it's just business.

Like Trump said, change the policies and the game if want business people to comply with solid rules instead of the volital flexible rules that seem to change every day. All I know is that Trump is representing this nation right, and he is changing the rules and game into something everyone can believe in. Dwelling on the past is a bad idea when the man is actually guilty of doing his job for the American people, and especially while spending his time as the president for the people, and doing it for all of the people.

Again, stop doing the "Hey, look over there" routine and hit it where it really is. No jobs means no need for drivers licenses. No Housing means no need for Drivers Licenses. Do what is needed to setup up programs to deny the housing and jobs. And then those employers that continue to blatantly infract it lock their butts up and put them out of business. The legal employers will benefit.

Quit making everything about Trump, as if you are trying to damage his presidency or his re-election to the presidency with every issue you can think of.

If you think that Trump was the only one that was being a businessman for whom was following the trends in which thousands upon thousands of business people were also following and using throughout the late 80's and 90's, and exploiting every loop hole given them all in the process, then you are nothing but a political hack with one purpose here. That purpose is to get Trump at any cost, even though the actions of the business community was in unison on how to use the migration of Mexican's into the U.S. for their factories, fields, construction, paving, carpentry, concrete work, tree work, landscaping, maid services, janitorial services excetra, excetra, excetra.

You are the lib wanting people to look over there while keeping their mind off of the job Trump is currently doing for America, and doing for the American people.

Actually, I am pointing out the WHY's that you shouldn't. With all the LEGAL construction workers we have laying around waiting for their next job, pulling in that illegal to run that backhoe or front end loader takes meat off the legal workers family table. You "The Party of the Rump"ers all complain about illegals crossing the border and how big a travesty it is yet you are the first to hire them. And since Rump is still doing it in Rump Industries (not just the 80s and 90s) he should get at least an honorable mention. And so should each and every billionaire with far reaching corporate businesses. Yes, and that includes Soros, The Kochs, and all the rest. He's just the one that made the news and has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to hire illegals on a large scale for construction projects.

It's not about "Get Rump" it's about protecting our LEGAL workforce from illegals being imported in by the Uber Rich to take jobs. It's about taking away the incentive to come here in the first place. No Jobs, No Housing and you have no need for Drivers Licenses because you have no where to go in the first place except back to that factory in central Mexico that has a shortage of workers. If it means "Get Rump" then I guess that's what we need to do. And, the after affect is, you get what you want and that's fewer illegals coming to America.

As far as Trump goes, he was accused of hiring illegals for Trump tower. The truth is, Trump hired a demolition company that used illegal Polish workers for the project, and Trump had no knowledge of it. Again, Trump is not in charge of the court system or our laws. Trump is doing more to fight illegal immigration than the last four Presidents combined.

And you left out Mara-a-Largo. And those are the two that have been looked at. Mara-a-Largo wasn't done by a subcontractor. It was done by Rump Industries and those were Rump Industries HR people doing the hiring and coaching of the illegals. There is NO WAY that you can have a hundred illegals working on ANY job without knowing that some of them are illegals. You all think I am just singling out Rump but it's a national problem. It's got to get really, really bad before anyone does anything about it. And it's pushing "Really, Really" bad now. You can't build your wall when you keep hiring those that do sneak in. That just means that more will keep sneaking in even after you build your wall..

Even if Rump were innocent and naive about it, his Rump Industries had to be aware that his Subcontractors were doing this. Rump Industries should have terminated the Subcontractor when it was discovered. There is a reason the low bidder bid in so low. Terminate the subcontractor and go to the next bidder in line. And prosecute the Illegal subcontractor until they are no longer able to operate.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You put an illegal on a big piece of machinery and an accident happens YOU WILL LOSE YOUR BUSINESS in the subsequent lawsuits that come from every direction including your insurance carrier. In many states there are only a handful of companies that offer workmens compensation. You have an illegal make a claim against you and you will be rejected by all of them.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Does Canada issue drivers licenses to illegal aliens and if not then why is your country so hateful?

If you are going to use such info to make a point, you really should look it up for yourself

Why?

I am asking her and better yet name any country that issues legal drivers licenses to illegal Immigrats besides the States within our Union?

When you realize none of them do then explain why the U.S. should be forced to do so?

They are not forced to, they do it optionally. They want to make it as inviting to illegals as they can, so they offer illegals drivers licenses. That's why Trump wants to cutoff some of their federal funds.

Which he should be able to.

If a States feel that is wrong then they can increase their taxes or cut spending or do both to cover the loss Federal Money while keeping their drivers license program...

Illinois lost Federal Funding many years back because they would not pass a helmet law for motorcyclists, and no one whined then...

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

You put an illegal on a big piece of machinery and an accident happens YOU WILL LOSE YOUR BUSINESS in the subsequent lawsuits that come from every direction including your insurance carrier. In many states there are only a handful of companies that offer workmens compensation. You have an illegal make a claim against you and you will be rejected by all of them.

Most of these idiots writing about illegals running heavy equipment are clueless and have no idea what they are writing about.

The illegal is the one with a Mexican Backhoe License:

And not running heavy equipment...

 

[Daryl Hunt]

pulling in that illegal to run that backhoe or front end loader

You're uninformed. Most places REQUIRE a license to run that equipment or at the very least a trade school certificate.
Those are not the jobs the illegals are taking. They are taking the low and no skill job positions. Like fry cook and laborer

They are in all kinds of fields of different work. That's the problem.

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Like I said UNSKILLED jobs. And dunno why CITIZENS are included in that lol

Simply pointing out that they are not just in service and agriculture. And as the picture shows, they exceed Americans in holding some skilled jobs, which of course means lowering our wages.

My father is a bricklayer, and when the weather turned crappy, he went on unemployment for the winter season. One year he found out that they were in need of bricklayers in Florida, so he was going to go down there for the season instead. Then he found out they were making less than half of what he made up here. He was better of just going on unemployment. But they had a lot of foreigners down there willing to do the work for nothing.

We have a lot of that here in things like Housing Construction, Brick Laying, Cement, Carpet Laying, etc.. Just because a person is here illegally doesn't mean he doesn't already have a trade.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

pulling in that illegal to run that backhoe or front end loader

You're uninformed. Most places REQUIRE a license to run that equipment or at the very least a trade school certificate.
Those are not the jobs the illegals are taking. They are taking the low and no skill job positions. Like fry cook and laborer

They are in all kinds of fields of different work. That's the problem.

View attachment 308188

Like I said UNSKILLED jobs. And dunno why CITIZENS are included in that lol

Simply pointing out that they are not just in service and agriculture. And as the picture shows, they exceed Americans in holding some skilled jobs, which of course means lowering our wages.

My father is a bricklayer, and when the weather turned crappy, he went on unemployment for the winter season. One year he found out that they were in need of bricklayers in Florida, so he was going to go down there for the season instead. Then he found out they were making less than half of what he made up here. He was better of just going on unemployment. But they had a lot of foreigners down there willing to do the work for nothing.

We have a lot of that here in things like Housing Construction, Brick Laying, Cement, Carpet Laying, etc.. Just because a person is here illegally doesn't mean he doesn't already have a trade.

But it means they should not be working and should be deported back!

Oh, before what does that have to do with anything?

Read your response!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why?

Because your mommy doesn't work here, and because not looking it up yourself shows you are not asking honestly and are actually just wasting other people's time with a rhetorical question.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Why?

Because your mommy doesn't work here, and because not looking it up yourself shows you are not asking honestly and are actually just wasting other people's time with a rhetorical question.

1. Who are you to state what can or can not be written on this board?

2. Why you hate the question is because it shows no other country offers this and yet you believe the U.S. should offer it because you want a illegals to vote in the General Election!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

1. Who are you to state what can or can not be written on this board?

Nobody. I said you should look it up yourself. Whether not you do is up to you. So wipe that tear away.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

1. Who are you to state what can or can not be written on this board?

Nobody. I said you should look it up yourself. Whether not you do is up to you. So wipe that tear away.

Why don't you make me boy?

First off dragging someone mother into the conversation is showing the board what a low class piece of filth!

Second of all you know no other country does what some States do by issuing illegals licenses, and yet you are a dishonest punk like Dragonlady!

Now what are you going to do punk?

Write more about my mother?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Because we are a capitalist country first and foremost and Sanders is a self described Socialist and contrary to his rhetoric there is nothing democratic about Socialism. Even mayor Pete and Bloomberg think Sanders is a whack job.

That's not compelling to me, sorry. These things are argued on data, not gut feelings and personal anecdotes, in a country of 300 million+.

You don't work in the business world, this is why your posts are crazy. If Bernie somehow wins the economy will tumble.

If Warren wins, much worse. Her promise is that her first day in the White House, she would sign an executive order to stop all fracking within the US. That means our fuel prices will eventually double, a lot of people out of work, and a recession on the horizon.

She won't win the nomination. She has become the fullback for Sanders. Attacking others so he looks better. Note how she rarely if ever attacks him.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

pulling in that illegal to run that backhoe or front end loader

You're uninformed. Most places REQUIRE a license to run that equipment or at the very least a trade school certificate.
Those are not the jobs the illegals are taking. They are taking the low and no skill job positions. Like fry cook and laborer

If I am running a non union privately owned site, most states stay out of my business except in the case of something like Public Safety like Electrics, Gas and Water. For moving dirt, if I own the property, own the backhoe and own the dirt then I can have Peewee Herman run that backhoe without a license.

Dunno where you live or what kind of illegal operation you are running but every jobsite goes through inspections and even OSHA has its nose on every jobsite.

You're eith full of it or don't care about any permit and construction requirement.

I worked as a Safety Inspector for a Construction Company (among other jobs for that same company). The Safety rules were laid out. When I came to the site, I have the authority to send someone home that was unsafe, i.e. no safety helms, no safety shows. etc.. I could stop work and have them redo scaffolding and a lot more. But if I did it all the time, I was out of a job. And OSHA would make only spot (announced) visits to the site but spent most of their time in my office because the company had an OSHA approved Safety Inspector. And these were on jobs where subcontractors were used in Housing (Hundreds of accupant Hotels). It's got to be pretty bad to get OSHA involved.

As for putting in a Golf Course Green, there isn't a whole lot for a Safety Inspector to do. And there isn't any real licenses required outside of the building permit. You own the land, the backhoe and the project then you can have anyone over a certain age run that backhoe. No Union, nothing. It would be like telling a Farmer that his son couldn't operate that front end loader to clean the Cattle Pens. You keep screaming about the Left but take a good hard look at yourself right now.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why don't you make me boy?

Sorry, I made the mistake of talking-to you as if you were an adult. I had no idea you would roll up into the fetal position and start sucking your thumb. My apologies to your caretakers.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You don't work in the business world,

False. And your silly as hominem and appeals to emotion hurt your credibility and do not support your athoritative statements that, so far, you have not even attempted to support with any data or salient examples

And this is because you don't have any data or salient examples. So, you fling poo.

Really? I work in Management Consulting. I work with multiple businesses throughout the US. Lower corp. tax rates equated to stronger cash flows and higher corporate confidence. More spend on R&D and capital projects. Lower regulations opened the door to more small businesses opening and operating effectively, which created wage growth and historic low unemployment.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

You put an illegal on a big piece of machinery and an accident happens YOU WILL LOSE YOUR BUSINESS in the subsequent lawsuits that come from every direction including your insurance carrier. In many states there are only a handful of companies that offer workmens compensation. You have an illegal make a claim against you and you will be rejected by all of them.

Most of these idiots writing about illegals running heavy equipment are clueless and have no idea what they are writing about.

The illegal is the one with a Mexican Backhoe License:

And not running heavy equipment...

There are people here illegally that can run a Front End Load or a Trackhoe quite well. Do you honestly believe that there are no construction going on in Mexico?

 

[Unkotare]

Why don't you make me boy?

Sorry, I made the mistake of talking-to you as if you were an adult. I had no idea you would roll up into the fetal position and start sucking your thumb. My apologies to your caretakers.

You've worn out this empty response, champ.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You don't work in the business world,

False. And your silly as hominem and appeals to emotion hurt your credibility and do not support your athoritative statements that, so far, you have not even attempted to support with any data or salient examples

And this is because you don't have any data or salient examples. So, you fling poo.

Really? I work in Management Consulting. I work with multiple businesses throughout the US. Lower corp. tax rates equated to stronger cash flows and higher corporate confidence. More spend on R&D and capital projects. Lower regulations opened the door to more small businesses opening and operating effectively, which created wage growth and historic low unemployment.

Lowering tax rates in a good economy that recently recovered from recession is bad policy by any measure, ever. And the tax cuts and dereg have caused an overheated investment economy and record individual debt that is causing a bubble that will -- not "may" -- burst.

Yes, many people will take personal profit in the meantime. Good for them. That is not a good argument supporting obviously idiotic fiscal policy.

You can stop talking about your job and your personal anecdotes. These things are not compelling, and you are wasting your time and hurting your credibility.