"Repeal The Second Amendment!"

[pismoe]

there is no god given right to anything, rights are what man has put up and chosen to defend

Not according to America's foundational documents.

great. then take our "god given rights" to another country, say n korea, and demand they honor them.

let me know how that goes.

What a silly, childish response. Do you deny the Founders considered certain rights as inalienable and God-given as part of the founding philosophy?

That was nothing more than invoking a supernatural justification for having a government that would protect certain rights...

...rights whose existence would be decided by Men, not God,

------------------------------------------- so YOU and other lefties and the Godless say Carbineer !!

 

[Mac1958]

The direction of public sentiment right now is pretty clear.
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No it’s not. The sentiment of the media and air headed celebrities is clear. How do you sheep watch TV and come away with the idea you’ve got your finger on the pulse of the American people? Serious question.

Well, one of us is wrong, I guess. We'll see soon enough.

I have no doubt that YOU have your finger on the pulse of the American people.
.
.

 

[NYcarbineer]

there is no god given right to anything, rights are what man has put up and chosen to defend

Not according to America's foundational documents.

great. then take our "god given rights" to another country, say n korea, and demand they honor them.

let me know how that goes.

What a silly, childish response. Do you deny the Founders considered certain rights as inalienable and God-given as part of the founding philosophy?

That was nothing more than invoking a supernatural justification for having a government that would protect certain rights...

...rights whose existence would be decided by Men, not God,

------------------------------------------- so YOU and other lefties and the Godless say Carbineer !!

If you can show us where a God sent us instruction on what rights we should or should not have, and thus those specific rights should be protected by the government,

by all means, show us.

 

[pismoe]

as already said , see Ameicas Foundational Documents Carbineer !!

 

[Rustic]

Repeal the Second Amendment, and replace it work something work-able for both sides of the Gun-Control argument.

The Constitution is a living, breathing document, so to speak.

When conditions change - when the needs of the Nation change - the Constitution changes.

Time for the Constitution to change, again.

I know you guys want to get rid of the second and the tenth amendment... good luck. Lol

Do this

With maps that look like this....

Trump will most likely be able to nominate two maybe three more justices for the Supreme Court... They will be second amendment enthusiasts.

 

[jc456]

Here's another one blabbering.

Michael Moore Calls for Repeal of 'Ancient & Outdated' 2nd Amendment

The 2nd Amendment isn't going anywhere. Quit fearmongering. You sound ridiculous.

tell michael moore to take a food break.

 

[Papageorgio]

You will find that most US citizens don’t own guns.

Most US citizens want better background checks.

Most US citizens do not want to ban guns.

Those last two statements are felt by over 70% of Americans.

 

[jc456]

Here's another one blabbering.

Michael Moore Calls for Repeal of 'Ancient & Outdated' 2nd Amendment

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Paul Manafort’s house got raided by the FBI in the middle of the night looking for Russians... FBI had multiple warnings about Florida shooter. He was expelled, posted guns on Instagram, and said he was going to be a school shooter. No raid for him. FBI is seriously screwed up.

You want the feds to be able to confiscate your guns if you post gun pictures on Instagram?

nope, want them to visit the individual pull them in for questioning, have them take a mental exam. How's that?

 

[debbiedowner]

We appear to actually be moving towards a tipping point here. Maybe we really have finally had enough.

If conservatives continue to play this libertarian all-or-nothing game, I suspect they're going to regret it.

What "all or nothing"

All the compromise so far has been done on or forced on 2nd amendment people.

It will ultimately be decided at the ballot box.

The direction of public sentiment right now is pretty clear.
.

The 2nd amendment will live, it damn near takes an act of god to change. Some controls will be enacted relating to mental health issues and age, but most people deemed sane and old enough will always be able to purchase a gun.

I included age because there are now rumblings in Florida to raise the age for rifles, but I will go back to when I was 18 and argue if I am old enough to go to war I am old enough to drink alcohol. I know it's not the same but the theory is still there and if I was going to war at 18 I'd certainly want to be able to purchase a gun. Maybe we just give shrinks more patients and do a complete mental exam before you can purchase. No one knows the answer's but for the 2nd amendment it will remain unchanged.

 

[jc456]

Here's another one blabbering.

Michael Moore Calls for Repeal of 'Ancient & Outdated' 2nd Amendment

never
going
to
happen

we do need to revamp our gun laws and background checks should be high on the list of immediate overhaul. we can work back from there but the background checks simply do not go far enough.

we do NOT need nofly and terror watch lists as there is no due process involved, but a stricter background check w/due process if denied the right to buy a gun, and keep on moving.

one step at a time.

Yeah, lets do what NYC does, expanding background checks to 3-6 months and $600 in fees just to get a home only revolver permit...

You can't trust gun control people not to exploit things in their goal to get an unarmed populace.

more money as well.

 

[jc456]

We appear to actually be moving towards a tipping point here. Maybe we really have finally had enough.

If conservatives continue to play this libertarian all-or-nothing game, I suspect they're going to regret it.

What "all or nothing"

All the compromise so far has been done on or forced on 2nd amendment people.

It will ultimately be decided at the ballot box.

The direction of public sentiment right now is pretty clear.
.

The 2nd amendment will live, it damn near takes an act of god to change. Some controls will be enacted relating to mental health issues and age, but most people deemed sane and old enough will always be able to purchase a gun.

I included age because there are now rumblings in Florida to raise the age for rifles, but I will go back to when I was 18 and argue if I am old enough to go to war I am old enough to drink alcohol. I know it's not the same but the theory is still there and if I was going to war at 18 I'd certainly want to be able to purchase a gun. Maybe we just give shrinks more patients and do a complete mental exam before you can purchase. No one knows the answer's but for the 2nd amendment it will remain unchanged.

If you are expelled from a high school, your name should go on a list for the background check.

 

[Papageorgio]

We appear to actually be moving towards a tipping point here. Maybe we really have finally had enough.

If conservatives continue to play this libertarian all-or-nothing game, I suspect they're going to regret it.

What "all or nothing"

All the compromise so far has been done on or forced on 2nd amendment people.

It will ultimately be decided at the ballot box.

The direction of public sentiment right now is pretty clear.
.

The 2nd amendment will live, it damn near takes an act of god to change. Some controls will be enacted relating to mental health issues and age, but most people deemed sane and old enough will always be able to purchase a gun.

I included age because there are now rumblings in Florida to raise the age for rifles, but I will go back to when I was 18 and argue if I am old enough to go to war I am old enough to drink alcohol. I know it's not the same but the theory is still there and if I was going to war at 18 I'd certainly want to be able to purchase a gun. Maybe we just give shrinks more patients and do a complete mental exam before you can purchase. No one knows the answer's but for the 2nd amendment it will remain unchanged.

Are you willing to give a “shrink” that much power? What about due process, what if the person recovers from their mental illness. We can have a one fits all mentality, that is insanity.

 

[debbiedowner]

We appear to actually be moving towards a tipping point here. Maybe we really have finally had enough.

If conservatives continue to play this libertarian all-or-nothing game, I suspect they're going to regret it.

What "all or nothing"

All the compromise so far has been done on or forced on 2nd amendment people.

It will ultimately be decided at the ballot box.

The direction of public sentiment right now is pretty clear.
.

The 2nd amendment will live, it damn near takes an act of god to change. Some controls will be enacted relating to mental health issues and age, but most people deemed sane and old enough will always be able to purchase a gun.

I included age because there are now rumblings in Florida to raise the age for rifles, but I will go back to when I was 18 and argue if I am old enough to go to war I am old enough to drink alcohol. I know it's not the same but the theory is still there and if I was going to war at 18 I'd certainly want to be able to purchase a gun. Maybe we just give shrinks more patients and do a complete mental exam before you can purchase. No one knows the answer's but for the 2nd amendment it will remain unchanged.

If you are expelled from a high school, your name should go on a list for the background check.

You have a point there, but what about fired employees? There have been a lot of work place shootings after someone has been fired. Maybe any kid on any kind of psych drugs? Then you run into hippa, but maybe it's time hippa be changed, we didn't have it before 1996.

 

[jc456]

Here's another one blabbering.

Michael Moore Calls for Repeal of 'Ancient & Outdated' 2nd Amendment

never
going
to
happen

we do need to revamp our gun laws and background checks should be high on the list of immediate overhaul. we can work back from there but the background checks simply do not go far enough.

we do NOT need nofly and terror watch lists as there is no due process involved, but a stricter background check w/due process if denied the right to buy a gun, and keep on moving.

one step at a time.

Yeah, lets do what NYC does, expanding background checks to 3-6 months and $600 in fees just to get a home only revolver permit...

You can't trust gun control people not to exploit things in their goal to get an unarmed populace.

yea, cause that's EXACTLY what i said, isn't it?

this lack of trust bullshit is getting people killed. i agree 30 years ago no one gave a damn and had guns in the back of their truck but we've changed unfortunately as a country and while i'm 100% FOR defending our rights to have a gun, that doesn't mean someone like cruz ever should have had one now does it?

the background check can just go deeper but it doesn't have to take much longer. in texas i fill out a piece of paper, they make a call and in 2 minutes, i'm a gun owner. i'm not sure what they check for now but maybe just putting more flags into the checks we have now would work.

but this lack of even willing to talk about it sucks. and when people do, the suckage grows because people start feeding their own fears about it and we all get emotional when this shouldn't be an emotional issue.

I can tell you why, the people that have done the damage with guns were put through background checks. So the issue then has to go to people like you and ask what else do you suggest. If there isn't anything in a background check, how do you know their make up to purchase a gun?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Repeal the Second Amendment, and replace it work something work-able for both sides of the Gun-Control argument.

The Constitution is a living, breathing document, so to speak.

When conditions change - when the needs of the Nation change - the Constitution changes.

Time for the Constitution to change, again.

I know you guys want get rid of the second and the tenth amendment... good luck. Lol

Do this

With maps that look like this....

Trump will most likely be able to nominate two maybe three more justices for the Supreme Court... They will be second amendment enthusiasts.

Not if he loses 2 seats in the Senate.

 

[debbiedowner]

We appear to actually be moving towards a tipping point here. Maybe we really have finally had enough.

If conservatives continue to play this libertarian all-or-nothing game, I suspect they're going to regret it.

What "all or nothing"

All the compromise so far has been done on or forced on 2nd amendment people.

It will ultimately be decided at the ballot box.

The direction of public sentiment right now is pretty clear.
.

The 2nd amendment will live, it damn near takes an act of god to change. Some controls will be enacted relating to mental health issues and age, but most people deemed sane and old enough will always be able to purchase a gun.

I included age because there are now rumblings in Florida to raise the age for rifles, but I will go back to when I was 18 and argue if I am old enough to go to war I am old enough to drink alcohol. I know it's not the same but the theory is still there and if I was going to war at 18 I'd certainly want to be able to purchase a gun. Maybe we just give shrinks more patients and do a complete mental exam before you can purchase. No one knows the answer's but for the 2nd amendment it will remain unchanged.

Are you willing to give a “shrink” that much power? What about due process, what if the person recovers from their mental illness. We can have a one fits all mentality, that is insanity.

If you're on any drug for your mental problem then yes.

 

[jc456]

We appear to actually be moving towards a tipping point here. Maybe we really have finally had enough.

If conservatives continue to play this libertarian all-or-nothing game, I suspect they're going to regret it.

What "all or nothing"

All the compromise so far has been done on or forced on 2nd amendment people.

It will ultimately be decided at the ballot box.

The direction of public sentiment right now is pretty clear.
.

The 2nd amendment will live, it damn near takes an act of god to change. Some controls will be enacted relating to mental health issues and age, but most people deemed sane and old enough will always be able to purchase a gun.

I included age because there are now rumblings in Florida to raise the age for rifles, but I will go back to when I was 18 and argue if I am old enough to go to war I am old enough to drink alcohol. I know it's not the same but the theory is still there and if I was going to war at 18 I'd certainly want to be able to purchase a gun. Maybe we just give shrinks more patients and do a complete mental exam before you can purchase. No one knows the answer's but for the 2nd amendment it will remain unchanged.

If you are expelled from a high school, your name should go on a list for the background check.

You have a point there, but what about fired employees? There have been a lot of work place shootings after someone has been fired. Maybe any kid on any kind of psych drugs? Then you run into hippa, but maybe it's time hippa be changed, we didn't have it before 1996.

fired or laid off? there is a difference.

 

[debbiedowner]

What "all or nothing"

All the compromise so far has been done on or forced on 2nd amendment people.

It will ultimately be decided at the ballot box.

The direction of public sentiment right now is pretty clear.
.

The 2nd amendment will live, it damn near takes an act of god to change. Some controls will be enacted relating to mental health issues and age, but most people deemed sane and old enough will always be able to purchase a gun.

I included age because there are now rumblings in Florida to raise the age for rifles, but I will go back to when I was 18 and argue if I am old enough to go to war I am old enough to drink alcohol. I know it's not the same but the theory is still there and if I was going to war at 18 I'd certainly want to be able to purchase a gun. Maybe we just give shrinks more patients and do a complete mental exam before you can purchase. No one knows the answer's but for the 2nd amendment it will remain unchanged.

If you are expelled from a high school, your name should go on a list for the background check.

You have a point there, but what about fired employees? There have been a lot of work place shootings after someone has been fired. Maybe any kid on any kind of psych drugs? Then you run into hippa, but maybe it's time hippa be changed, we didn't have it before 1996.

fired or laid off? there is a difference.

Fired.

 

[NYcarbineer]

We appear to actually be moving towards a tipping point here. Maybe we really have finally had enough.

If conservatives continue to play this libertarian all-or-nothing game, I suspect they're going to regret it.

What "all or nothing"

All the compromise so far has been done on or forced on 2nd amendment people.

It will ultimately be decided at the ballot box.

The direction of public sentiment right now is pretty clear.
.

The 2nd amendment will live, it damn near takes an act of god to change. Some controls will be enacted relating to mental health issues and age, but most people deemed sane and old enough will always be able to purchase a gun.

I included age because there are now rumblings in Florida to raise the age for rifles, but I will go back to when I was 18 and argue if I am old enough to go to war I am old enough to drink alcohol. I know it's not the same but the theory is still there and if I was going to war at 18 I'd certainly want to be able to purchase a gun. Maybe we just give shrinks more patients and do a complete mental exam before you can purchase. No one knows the answer's but for the 2nd amendment it will remain unchanged.

If you are expelled from a high school, your name should go on a list for the background check.

No, everyone should be subject to background checks.

 

[jc456]

We appear to actually be moving towards a tipping point here. Maybe we really have finally had enough.

If conservatives continue to play this libertarian all-or-nothing game, I suspect they're going to regret it.

What "all or nothing"

All the compromise so far has been done on or forced on 2nd amendment people.

It will ultimately be decided at the ballot box.

The direction of public sentiment right now is pretty clear.
.

The 2nd amendment will live, it damn near takes an act of god to change. Some controls will be enacted relating to mental health issues and age, but most people deemed sane and old enough will always be able to purchase a gun.

I included age because there are now rumblings in Florida to raise the age for rifles, but I will go back to when I was 18 and argue if I am old enough to go to war I am old enough to drink alcohol. I know it's not the same but the theory is still there and if I was going to war at 18 I'd certainly want to be able to purchase a gun. Maybe we just give shrinks more patients and do a complete mental exam before you can purchase. No one knows the answer's but for the 2nd amendment it will remain unchanged.

Are you willing to give a “shrink” that much power? What about due process, what if the person recovers from their mental illness. We can have a one fits all mentality, that is insanity.

If you're on any drug for your mental problem then yes.

I'm good with that added as well. What drugs are you on? problem is they may lie. that one becomes tougher to enforce.