Repeal the 2nd Amendment

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Just because those MEN said the rights were "inalienable" doesn't mean they are.

Our rights are inalienable but they’re not absolute – they’re subject to limits and restrictions by government consistent with Constitutional case law.

The same is true of the Second Amendment, it is not ‘unlimited’ – it’s not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.

 

[Hellbilly]

They would have to find mine. Then they would be in for a fight.

Take it up with them. I'm done with this mess.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Our rights are inalienable but they’re not absolute – .......

Did you get that line from Ole' Joe when he was having diaper rash?

*****CHUCKLE*****

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

No, it wouldn’t ‘repeal’ the Second Amendment.

Justice Stevens was advocating for retaining the collective interpretation of the Second Amendment, that it’s a collective – not individual – right to possess a firearm.

And because there was no need for private citizens to be armed to participate in ‘militia’ that no longer exist, prohibiting citizens from possessing certain firearms – military weapons in particular – would be Constitutional.

That’s why Scalia contrived the individual right in Heller, unconnected to militia service – to preempt government from prohibiting citizens from possessing handguns.

So, your argument should be that you want to see the Supreme Court overturn Heller in favor of the collective interpretation of the Second Amendment – no need for its ‘repeal.’

Thank you. Well said.

 

[Concerned American]

Is it hatred because I'm telling you the truth about US history? No.
Was Justice Stevens a racist for wanting to repeal the 2nd Amendment? No.

No when you tried to add racism to a thread about "inalienable" rights to keep and bear arms it exposed your racism.

 

[FA_Q2]

You’re talking about the United States Military. If they want your guns, they’ll take em. I don’t see what you are going to do about it.

That is actually not true.

If this were a possible solution the military would have used it elsewhere. If they could have cleaned out Afghanistan, for example, of all firearms they certainly would have done so with the decade of outright control we had there and the MUCH smaller population. The reality is that removing something from the people at large is beyond the capability of any government agency at this point, our society is simply not structured in a manner that allows it.

A law like this relies on the fact that the vast majority of people are law abiding and will follow the law on their own.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

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Yeah sure the mass shooting will stop...

*****SARCASTIC SMILE*****

Of course they wouldn't stop. Do you have any idea what kind of gun control Mexico has? They have daily slaughters. When a mass grave is found in Mexico it contains hundreds of bodies. If we are to any chance of countering that kind of carnage we keep our weapons at the ready.

 

[Shawnee_b]

In the March 27, 2018 issue of the New York Times, retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens wrote a wonderful article advocating for the repeal of the 2nd Amendment. Reason: We do not need a militia today. The 2nd Amendment is just a propaganda weapon of the NRA---they use it to block debate in Congress and stop real gun control. (I am paraphrasing Justice Stevens here).

These mass shootings would stop fast if we could repeal the 2nd Amendment.

Uninformed idiot.

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

Uninformed idiot.

It takes one to know one.

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

I just saw a news video on CNN that stated the number 1 cause of death for children under 19 years old is GUNSHOT WOUNDS. In the USA.
Question: How can we call ourselves a first world country with these kinds of statistics?
Answer: We can't call ourselves a first world country anymore.

 

[Concerned American]

I just saw a news video on CNN that stated the number 1 cause of death for children under 19 years old is GUNSHOT WOUNDS. In the USA.

SUICIDE.

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

SUICIDE.

Children 19 years old and younger are not usually suicide prone. The statistics said it's GUNSHOT WOUNDS.
With all the school shootings we've had in recent years, I believe it.

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

Yesterday, June 14th 2022, was the one month anniversary of the mass shooting in Buffalo, New York at the Tops grocery store.
To honor them, here are the names and ages of the people who were murdered that day:
Roberta Drury, 32
Magnus D. Morrison, 52
Andre Mackneil, 53
Aaron Salter, 55
Geraldine Talley, 62
Celestine Chaney, 65
Heyward Patterson, 67
Katherine Massey, 72
Pearl Young, 77
Ruth Whitfield, 86

These people were killed with an AR-15 semi-automatic weapon. These guns need to be banned. They are good for one thing only: To kill large numbers of human beings quickly and efficiently.

 

[Rigby5]

Our rights are inalienable but they’re not absolute – they’re subject to limits and restrictions by government consistent with Constitutional case law.

The same is true of the Second Amendment, it is not ‘unlimited’ – it’s not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.

But it is an absolute ban on any federal jurisdiction over firearms.

 

[Rigby5]

I just saw a news video on CNN that stated the number 1 cause of death for children under 19 years old is GUNSHOT WOUNDS. In the USA.
Question: How can we call ourselves a first world country with these kinds of statistics?
Answer: We can't call ourselves a first world country anymore.

Totally wrong.
The main cause of juvenile is accidents, like falls, drowning, electrocution, etc.
They represent 60% of juvenile deaths.
Vehicles represent another 20%.
Guns are less then 15% of juvenile deaths.

The Major Causes of Death in Children and Adolescents in the United States

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Rigby5]

Children 19 years old and younger are not usually suicide prone. The statistics said it's GUNSHOT WOUNDS.
With all the school shootings we've had in recent years, I believe it.

Nonsense.
School shooting are an insignificant tiny number.
About 20,000 juveniles die each year, and school shootings are less than 100 per year.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

In the March 27, 2018 issue of the New York Times, retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens wrote a wonderful article advocating for the repeal of the 2nd Amendment. Reason: We do not need a militia today. The 2nd Amendment is just a propaganda weapon of the NRA---they use it to block debate in Congress and stop real gun control. (I am paraphrasing Justice Stevens here).

These mass shootings would stop fast if we could repeal the 2nd Amendment.

 

[Rigby5]

Yesterday, June 14th 2022, was the one month anniversary of the mass shooting in Buffalo, New York at the Tops grocery store.
To honor them, here are the names and ages of the people who were murdered that day:
Roberta Drury, 32
Magnus D. Morrison, 52
Andre Mackneil, 53
Aaron Salter, 55
Geraldine Talley, 62
Celestine Chaney, 65
Heyward Patterson, 67
Katherine Massey, 72
Pearl Young, 77
Ruth Whitfield, 86

These people were killed with an AR-15 semi-automatic weapon. These guns need to be banned. They are good for one thing only: To kill large numbers of human beings quickly and efficiently.

That is ignorant.
The AR-15 is about the weakest rifle made.
It is half way to a pistol bullet instead of a full rifle bullet.
It was deliberately selected by the military in order to kill fewer people, because wounded put more of the enemy resource out of action.
It is so weak that it is illegal to use to hunt deer in many states.

 

[Shawnee_b]

It takes one to know one.

Wow, a second graders reply. Got anything else idiot?

 

[AZrailwhale]

You’re talking about the United States Military. If they want your guns, they’ll take em. I don’t see what you are going to do about it.

One: Most of the troops would refuse to follow such an illegal order.
Two: Federal troops can't be used for domestic law enforcement. It violates the Posse Comitatus Act.