Repeal the 22nd Amendment and the 17th, too.

[martybegan]

Actually there is "excess" profit. A measure used when there isn't enough competition to trigger supply and demand.

Example:

Drug company raised price of lifesaving opioid overdose antidote more than 600 percent

As the nation struggled with rising opioid deaths, a drug company increased the price of an overdose antidote more than 600 percent, a Senate subcommittee says.

www.usatoday.com

Drug company raised price of lifesaving opioid overdose antidote more than 600 percent

Richmond, Virginia-based Kaleo increased the price of its auto-injectable overdose-reversal drug EVZIO from $575 to $4,100,

That isn't excess profit. There is no definition of how much profit is excess, just right, or low.

 

[Coyote]

No, they can't because laws passed at the State level overrule laws at the local level.

Rural areas seem to have a disproportionate amount of power in state legislatures where they can impose laws that overrule local ordinances even though those laws lack the support of a majority of the citizenry. I can think of several notable examples.

And those rural areas provide food so the urban areas don't fucking starve.

Arguing which is more important in contribution is a dumb argument. Both are important in different ways.

 

[Hum Dinger]

so you think people that live in major cities should always be in control? In your scenario, the people in the rest of the country would never have any say in the elections for perpetuity.

That's assuming that people in urban and rural areas have nothing in common.

If there was equal representation, people in rural areas would have equal representation.

Perhaps respect for the rights of the individual should supersede geography.

 

[postman]

That isn't excess profit. There is no definition of how much profit is excess, just right, or low.

Yes there is. Historical data.

Example are cars like the Z06 Corvette, that's selling for tens of thousands over MSRP.

 

[martybegan]

Rural areas seem to have a disproportionate amount of power in state legislatures where they can impose laws that overrule local ordinances even though those laws lack the support of a majority of the citizenry. I can think of several notable examples.



Arguing which is more important in contribution is a dumb argument. Both are important in different ways.

They can't get them past the lower house, which is done by population.

Right now there is no combination, upper houses are set to be by population as well, making them pointless.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Rural areas seem to have a disproportionate amount of power in state legislatures where they can impose laws that overrule local ordinances even though those laws lack the support of a majority of the citizenry. I can think of several notable examples.



Arguing which is more important in contribution is a dumb argument. Both are important in different ways.

No, they don't any State with large metropolitan areas is run by them.

 

[Coyote]

The question is if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

I would go with an Electoral College where each state gives 2 EV's to the overall State winner, and the rest are divided up by congressional district.

That is an interesting idea!

 

[martybegan]

Yes there is. Historical data.

Example are cars like the Z06 Corvette, that's selling for tens of thousands over MSRP.

That isn't excess profit, that is demand outstripping supply.

And for every Z06, there is a car model they take a bath on just to get it off the lot.

 

[martybegan]

No, they don't any State with large metropolitan areas is run by them.

According to Coyote, Rural Illinois runs Chicago, Upstate NY runs NYC, and Western Mass runs Boston....

 

[postman]

That isn't excess profit, that is demand outstripping supply.

And for every Z06, there is a car model they take a bath on just to get it off the lot.

So it's just like when OPEC drops production, until the price of oil doubles, and that's O.K. with you?
They're just making supply and demand profits?

 

[martybegan]

So it's just like when OPEC drops production, until the price of oil doubles, and that's O.K. with you?
They're just making supply and demand profits?

The whole point of OPEC is to control supply, not to allow it to occur naturally.

Unless we produce more oil, or feel like forcing them to break up, what else could we do to get rid of OPEC?

 

[Coyote]

According to Coyote, Rural Illinois runs Chicago, Upstate NY runs NYC, and Western Mass runs Boston....

Yet rural areas largely seem to determine gun laws at a state level overruling urban ordinances. Rural areas are largely behind the state level draconian laws despite the lack of majority support in a number of states with large urban areas but even larger and less populated rural areas.

 

[martybegan]

Yet rural areas largely seem to determine gun laws at a state level overruling urban ordinances. Rural areas are largely behind the state level draconian laws despite the lack of majority support in a number of states with large urban areas but even larger and less populated rural areas.

Depends on the State's constitution and laws detailing home rule.

The thing is with a Senate like upper house, these things are balanced, as the high population areas control the lower house.

Now it's just the population running things throughout, and that isn't the way our Republic was founded.

And the thing is, those cities in those States with the gun laws aren't really big enough to be on the same scale as NY, Chicago and Boston, never mind LA/SD/SF in California.

 

[Coyote]

Depends on the State's constitution and laws detailing home rule.

The thing is with a Senate like upper house, these things are balanced, as the high population areas control the lower house.

Now it's just the population running things throughout, and that isn't the way our Republic was founded.

And the thing is, those cities in those States with the gun laws aren't really big enough to be on the same scale as NY, Chicago and Boston, never mind LA/SD/SF in California.

Massachusetts is essentially one big urban area in a tiny state so there is no real “rural” area. Of the ten largest cities in the US, four are in TX with 84% of the state’s population, yet have little influence on state wide policies.

 

[martybegan]

Massachusetts is essentially one big urban area in a tiny state so there is no real “rural” area. Of the ten largest cities in the US, four are in TX with 84% of the state’s population, yet have little influence on state wide policies.

Western Mass is urban?

 

[Coyote]

Western Mass is urban?

92% of MA’s population is urban.

 

[martybegan]

92% of MA’s population is urban.

I drive 50 miles out of NYC i get small cities and farms. That's western Mass as well.

 

[postman]

The whole point of OPEC is to control supply, not to allow it to occur naturally.

Unless we produce more oil, or feel like forcing them to break up, what else could we do to get rid of OPEC?

You can't get rid of them, but you can break them.
Like when Bill Clinton released enough oil from the SPR to drive oil prices back down to levels where the OPEC countries had to pump more oil to make payroll. Which further depressed global oil prices. Which allowed Clinton to refill the SPR at a profit.
Sell high, buy low.
And break OPEC at the same time.

 

[martybegan]

You can't get rid of them, but you can break them.
Like when Bill Clinton released enough oil from the SPR to drive oil prices back down to levels where the OPEC countries had to pump more oil to make payroll. Which further depressed global oil prices. Which allowed Clinton to refill the SPR at a profit.
Sell high, buy low.
And break OPEC at the same time.

OPEC is still around, they weren't broken.

 

[postman]

OPEC is still around, they weren't broken.

Oil prices returned to pre OPEC levels.
They were still around, but strategically weakened, where they wouldn't try to control global oil prices for decades.