Repeal the 22nd Amendment and the 17th, too.

[martybegan]

The vote should go where the actual person lives, not where the dirt is. If someone lives in a city, it should go there. If someone lives in a suburb, there, country, there.

That makes State governments simply redundant extensions of big city governments.

And you wonder why separation movements exist in several States.

 

[postman]

you are a retard the legislature is elected by the people of the State.

Repeat? Who elected Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini?

 

[Zincwarrior]

According to Coyote, Rural Illinois runs Chicago, Upstate NY runs NYC, and Western Mass runs Boston....

The rural areas control Texas despite the majority of population living in the metro areas.

 

[martybegan]

The rural areas control Texas despite the majority of population living in the metro areas.

Texas doesn't have an LA/SF/SD, NYC, Chicago, Boston or Portland equivalent.

It has Austin as a lefty bastion, many of the other larger cities are mostly Purple.

 

[whitehall]

The 22 Amendment was enacted because of the arrogance of FDR. Every other president was gentleman enough to bow out after two terms but FDR's first two terms were such a disaster that he ran for a 3rd and later the democrat party lied to Americans about FDR's health (sound familiar?) and ran a virtual corpse for a 4th term which he served less than 3 months. The 17th Amendment seems reasonable enough. Why clog up the senate with two hundred or more senators? It's hard to get a bill through with what we have.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Do you think people living in New York city should always have the most control over people living in rural Nebraska?

Can just be thrown right back at you. Should people in rural Nebraska control NYC?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Texas doesn't have an LA/SF/SD, NYC, Chicago, Boston or Portland equivalent.

It has Austin as a lefty bastion, many of the other larger cities are mostly Purple.

Oh yes it does.
Houston greater Metro: 6MM
DFW greater Metro: 5MM
SA/Austin Corridor: 2MM
El Paso: 1MM

 

[martybegan]

Oh yes it does.
Houston greater Metro: 6MM
DFW greater Metro: 5MM
SA/Austin Corridor: 2MM
El Paso: 1MM

Greater Metro areas can include red burbs and usually impinge on the rural areas.

I'm talking cities themselves.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Greater Metro areas can include red burbs and usually impinge on the rural areas.

I'm talking cities themselves.

You shouldn't. The vote should go where the person is, not the other way around.

 

[martybegan]

You shouldn't. The vote should go where the person is, not the other way around.

Then abolish the Federal Senate?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Repeat? Who elected Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini?

so what they wanted them because of what they offered are you against democracy?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Then abolish the Federal Senate?

? Its the only one that really is one person, one vote.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

? Its the only one that really is one person, one vote.

Representatives aren't?

 

[martybegan]

? Its the only one that really is one person, one vote.

No, it isn't. California gets 2 senators, Wyoming gets 2 senators.

Think before you reply to this.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

No, it isn't. California gets 2 senators, Wyoming gets 2 senators.

Think before you reply to this.

except it is one person one vote elects them. Just like representatives, we arent talking about how many there are but how they get elected.

 

[martybegan]

except it is one person one vote elects them. Just like representatives, we arent talking about how many there are but how they get elected.

And What I am talking about with regards to Morris v Board of estimates is States not being able to do the same thing with their upper houses, except replace States with counties.

The Senate is no where near one person one vote based on REPRESENTATION overall, not on who votes for them locally.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Representatives aren't?

No. Their districts are gerrymandered.

No, it isn't. California gets 2 senators, Wyoming gets 2 senators.

Think before you reply to this.

Ok, thank you for clarifying. Now I see what you are going at. Its a very good point.

 

[martybegan]

No. Their districts are gerrymandered.

Ok, thank you for clarifying. Now I see what you are going at. Its a very good point.

Gerrymandering is a part of the system, one that is usually only a "problem" when "the other side does it"

 

[Zincwarrior]

Gerrymandering is a part of the system, one that is usually only a "problem" when "the other side does it"

No. Like political pardons, its a problem when either side does it.

 

[martybegan]

No. Like political pardons, its a problem when either side does it.

Then change the system. Until then any attempts to limit it are only going to make it worse.