Remember John Edwards?

[JoeB131]

He wouldn’t have been a sitting president after he left office

Which is why he's on trial now.

Trump told Daniels something to get her to have sex with him, and you call that criminal?

No, actually, the law does. It's called solicitation and coercion.

You know who else changed their story? Daniels…and carroll. Daniels also signed a letter stating she never had sex with trump. Hmm, Carroll seemed to have gotten paid “good money” for her accusations.

Did she? SHe got $130K for her silence, that doesn't seem like good money.

No one paid Brodderick for her affidavit.

Incorrect. I’ve stated many times, I don’t care about trump. You all seem to not believe me. I’ve said I think there are better people, I just happen to see him as the lesser of two evils in this case. I’ve also stated that I’m not defending Trump, I’m arguing against you lefty’s because I think all of this is one big political attack

Anyone who sees Trump as the lesser evil is a fucking retard.

 

[Couchpotato]

You believe the polls? Remember, I may ask you this again in the future. Is your answer going to change?

You remind me of all Trump's supporters. When asked if they will accept the elections results no matter who wins, they can't answer. They just keep insisting Trump is going to be the next president. It's scary.

Will you accept them when all those little girls and I show up to vote against Trump? No one polled any of us.

WTF are you babbling about?

 

[Delldude]

No, actually, the law does. It's called solicitation and coercion.

So she did it for money?

 

[JoeB131]

So she did it for money?

Why does that matter?

 

[buckeye45_73]

A lot of women, I suspect.

There's a simple way to resolve the problem. Have Trump Drop Trou and see if he has a tiny mushroom dick like Stormy says he does.

This is what they do in sexual assault cases all the time. It's what you insisted be done in the Starr case with Clinton.

Well that didn't happen, so we'll pass on it as well. Next idea?

 

[JoeB131]

Well that didn't happen, so we'll pass on it as well. Next idea?

No need to. Trump sent his lawyer to try to bully Stormy today, and she got her ass handed to her.

The ironic thing was, Trump could have avoided this by just stipulating to the sex and concentrating on the documentation. But now the jury really doesn't like him or his lawyers.

You really can't come back from that.

 

[Nostra]

A lot of women, I suspect.

There's a simple way to resolve the problem. Have Trump Drop Trou and see if he has a tiny mushroom dick like Stormy says he does.

This is what they do in sexual assault cases all the time. It's what you insisted be done in the Starr case with Clinton.

Your obsession with Trump’s junk is strange.

 

[Couchpotato]

No need to. Trump sent his lawyer to try to bully Stormy today, and she got her ass handed to her.

The ironic thing was, Trump could have avoided this by just stipulating to the sex and concentrating on the documentation. But now the jury really doesn't like him or his lawyers.

You really can't come back from that.

The judge should have never permitted the Daniel’s testimony. There’s no probative value.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The judge should have never permitted the Daniel’s testimony. There’s no probative value.

He also allowed the prosecutor to bring up uncharged accusations in the opening statement. This will be a slam dunk for appeal.

 

[sealybobo]

He also allowed the prosecutor to bring up uncharged accusations in the opening statement. This will be a slam dunk for appeal.

You guys want to know honestly what this is all about? Why are we embarrassing Trump like this?

 

[JoeB131]

The judge should have never permitted the Daniel’s testimony. There’s no probative value.

Translation: she really took a huge chunk of meat out of Trump.

Your argument would hold water if Trump weren't insisting up and down that he never had sex with her. He just dug himself in deeper by insisting that his lawyers go after her personally... it just made him look even creepier.

He also allowed the prosecutor to bring up uncharged accusations in the opening statement. This will be a slam dunk for appeal.

Not really, but whatever you guys need to believe.

 

[Delldude]

Why does that matter?

To you it seems to matter.

 

[Nostra]

Translation: she really took a huge chunk of meat out of Trump.

Your argument would hold water if Trump weren't insisting up and down that he never had sex with her. He just dug himself in deeper by insisting that his lawyers go after her personally... it just made him look even creepier.



Not really, but whatever you guys need to believe.

Link us up to her testimony that had anything to do with the charge of an illegal data entry, Simp.

JoeB131

 

[Couchpotato]

Translation: she really took a huge chunk of meat out of Trump.

Your argument would hold water if Trump weren't insisting up and down that he never had sex with her. He just dug himself in deeper by insisting that his lawyers go after her personally... it just made him look even creepier.

Whether he had sex with her is irrelevant to the charges. If he’s guilty of what the DA alleges it doesn’t matter. Which is precisely why the judge should t have allowed the testimony. That’s the difference between someone like you who’s an ideologue and me who’s not. I can see that and you can’t because all that matters is the other team gets “hurt”. What’s sad is you’re blind to the fact that rhis hurts everyone. Frankly it hurts Trump least of all. In the wnd at worst he just doesn’t get elected. He’ll still be rich he’ll likely be dead before the blowback really affects the country. Or he’ll be insulated from it due to his wealth.

 

[JoeB131]

Whether he had sex with her is irrelevant to the charges. If he’s guilty of what the DA alleges it doesn’t matter. Which is precisely why the judge should t have allowed the testimony. That’s the difference between someone like you who’s an ideologue and me who’s not. I can see that and you can’t because all that matters is the other team gets “hurt”. What’s sad is you’re blind to the fact that rhis hurts everyone. Frankly it hurts Trump least of all. In the wnd at worst he just doesn’t get elected. He’ll still be rich he’ll likely be dead before the blowback really affects the country. Or he’ll be insulated from it due to his wealth.

Oh, let's get real. When Ken Starr investigated Clinton, he included pages of graphic descriptions of the sex acts Bill and Monica performed. Why? Because Clinton took the position that he didn't consider fellatio to be sex, and therefore he wasn't lying when he said he didn't have sex with Lewinsky. Conversely, Trump has straight-up denied that he ever had sex with Daniels. This is why his lawyer tried a "sluts and nuts" tact with her yesterday and failed.

Second, you are the ideologue who seems to think it's okay that Trump commits crimes because HE'S THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE US!!! Completely ignoring, of course, that his presidency was a complete fucking disaster. Plague, Recession, Riots, Wildfires, Surges in illegal immigration, etc. Holding him accountable and keeping him out of office helps us all.

Third, WHEN Trump loses, he's screwed, because the other three cases are out there. He can maybe punt these past the election, but WHEN he loses, he's going to trial and he will be found guilty of some of them.

 

[Couchpotato]

Oh, let's get real. When Ken Starr investigated Clinton, he included pages of graphic descriptions of the sex acts Bill and Monica performed. Why? Because Clinton took the position that he didn't consider fellatio to be sex, and therefore he wasn't lying when he said he didn't have sex with Lewinsky. Conversely, Trump has straight-up denied that he ever had sex with Daniels. This is why his lawyer tried a "sluts and nuts" tact with her yesterday and failed.

There's a HUGE difference between what investigators look at and what's actually allowed as evidence in a court room.

Second, you are the ideologue who seems to think it's okay that Trump commits crimes because HE'S THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE US!!!

When have I ever said that? Or anything even resembling that? Feel free to quote the post.

Completely ignoring, of course, that his presidency was a complete fucking disaster. Plague, Recession, Riots, Wildfires, Surges in illegal immigration, etc. Holding him accountable and keeping him out of office helps us all.

Wait. Trump was responsible for COVID? Trump was responsible for wildfires? There was a surge in illegal immigration during his term?

Ideological capture....

Third, WHEN Trump loses, he's screwed, because the other three cases are out there. He can maybe punt these past the election, but WHEN he loses, he's going to trial and he will be found guilty of some of them.

Maybe. But I wouldn't be shocked if those go away if he loses. They wouldn't have been brought were he not running. The "threat" of people voting for him will be gone.

 

[JoeB131]

There's a HUGE difference between what investigators look at and what's actually allowed as evidence in a court room.

Quite right. So why did Starr include all the salacious stuff?

Trump allowed the salacious stuff because he's still pretending he didn't have sex with her.

When have I ever said that? Or anything even resembling that? Feel free to quote the post.

You just babbled on about how we are all going to suffer if Trump loses.

Wait. Trump was responsible for COVID? Trump was responsible for wildfires? There was a surge in illegal immigration during his term?

Yes, he totally fucked up Covid Response.
He slashed funding to the Forestry Service.
Yes, illegal immigration increased on his watch compared to Obama.

Maybe. But I wouldn't be shocked if those go away if he loses. They wouldn't have been brought were he not running. The "threat" of people voting for him will be gone.

I suspect that AFTER he loses, his lawyers will do what Clinton did when he was about to leave the White House.... cut a deal for no jail time and a fine.

 

[Couchpotato]

Quite right. So why did Starr include all the salacious stuff?

In his investigation? Or in the court room?

Trump allowed the salacious stuff because he's still pretending he didn't have sex with her.

The sex isnt at issue that's the point. Certainly not what positions they were in or any of the intimate details of the act. Trump isnt charged with lying about having sex with a porn star. He's charged with falsifying business records and illegal campaign contributions. Is he not guilty of those things if he didnt have sex with Daniels? If that were the case then Daniels testimony might have probative value. Since it doesnt.....

You just babbled on about how we are all going to suffer if Trump loses.

No that's not what I said or even close to what I said.

Yes, he totally fucked up Covid Response.

What should he have done differently? Within the bounds of the law mind you.

He slashed funding to the Forestry Service.

And that caused wild fires in that short of a time frame? You dont actually believe that. Our problem with wildfires has little to do with the forestry service.

Yes, illegal immigration increased on his watch compared to Obama.

So you believe it's been an outright catastrophe under Biden then right?

I suspect that AFTER he loses, his lawyers will do what Clinton did when he was about to leave the White House.... cut a deal for no jail time and a fine.

LOL. I thought his crimes were a threat to democracy. That's a fine?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Plague, Recession, Riots, Wildfires, Surges in illegal immigration, etc.

Still better than drooling Joe's performance.

 

[JoeB131]

The sex isnt at issue that's the point. Certainly not what positions they were in or any of the intimate details of the act. Trump isnt charged with lying about having sex with a porn star. He's charged with falsifying business records and illegal campaign contributions. Is he not guilty of those things if he didnt have sex with Daniels? If that were the case then Daniels testimony might have probative value. Since it doesnt.....

Whether or not he had sex with her is kind of key to the point. His claim is that he never had sex with her and that Cohen took it upon himself to take out a mortgage on his home, and then bill Trump for the services, which Trump knew nothing about.

We now know that his claim to not have had sex with her is a lie. His claims he didn't know about the scheme is being undermined by his own staffers.

What should he have done differently? Within the bounds of the law mind you.

Not disbanded the Pandemic response team
Not thrown out the Pandemic Response Plan
Talk seriously about Covid in January when the first reports came out.
Work with the governors on containment instead of against them.
Not withdrawn the US from the WHO
The list can go on, but you get the idea.

So you believe it's been an outright catastrophe under Biden then right?

Only because of Trump's actions. Biden is dealing with the cards he's been dealt. We should have reformed immigration years ago.

LOL. I thought his crimes were a threat to democracy. That's a fine?

Personally, I'd like to see him go to jail for the rest of his life. But some accountability will be enough.