Zone1 Religion Versus Evolution

This was a conversation that I was having earlier today. I have faith in Jesus Christ because it's a whole lot easier to have faith in Him than chimpanzees turning into human beings. After all, if that was the case don't you think that would still be happening?

Why not both? For one thing, chimps didn't turn into people, chimps are a dead end in the hominid chain while Sapiens is a parallel branch still going on.

Evolution still goes on, but on time scales of thousands and millions of years not visible to people only living 70 or 80 years.

Just keep in mind that the author of the book of Genesis is unknown but estimated written possibly around 1600 BC and was speaking in a metaphorical sense, in that the six days of God does not equate to six days of life here on Earth. And why would it?

God's "days" could be millions of years long, and our days did not even exist yet in the time of Genesis. Our days are based on the current spin rate of the Earth, so theology really runs into a HUGE problem if they try to suppose that the creator of all at the beginning of time based all of the universe on six day time periods of a single planet's spin far into the future.

I mean, back when the dinosaurs were killed off, the Earth's diurnal rotation was only 23.7 hours long. Back during the Ediacaran when complex life was forming in the ocean, our day was only 22 hours long.

The author of Genesis was merely trying to convey a time period in God's world when they had no other way of conveying or understanding such things other than in ways relating to ordinary man (the reader) could understand--- earthly days and nights. As such, while much of the Bible is really an historical account and timeline, Genesis is really just a metaphorical assumption trying to connect the beginnings of recorded history with the formations of the universe that connects how the Sun, Moon, planets and world all came about in the first place for there to even be a human species on Earth to have any history of.

This is not surprising because every civilization and culture since recorded time has done the same thing.

One culture simply imagined that the world was a flat disc of earth riding atop the backs of four giant elephants or turtles.

And they explained it in the best way they could considering they had no science, no technology, no tools at the time to really inspect, examine and understand the true scope and nature of the universe.

But too many people fear admitting that, thinking that if Genesis (or a tiny part of it) cannot be taking strictly literally, that it somehow invalidates the rest of it, which is wrong. Likewise, too many people make the false assumption that just because proven science conflicts with the first page of the Bible, that serves as proof that the whole thing must be false.

Fact of the matter is that historical and archeological research has in fact confirmed much of the timeline and events recorded in the Bible as real. In fact, the great flood of Noah was even recorded in Babylonian records 1,000 years before it was also written down recorded in the Bible.
 
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The geologic record.
Geology isn’t a science. It’s just observation of what some people think happened. It
Must have taken millions of years to form the Grand Canyon. Yet, there are canyons created in just a few days that suggest it may have taken only a few months or years. But not millions.
 
Not talking about cloning, I'm talking about actually creating something.
They did not create something from nothing. It took 473 already existing genes. Go find anything that comports with the primordial pond/lightning, etc. theory.

"Five years ago, scientists created a single-celled synthetic organism that, with only 473 genes, was the simplest living cell ever known. However, this bacteria-like organism behaved strangely when growing and dividing, producing cells with wildly different shapes and sizes."
 
Geology isn’t a science. It’s just observation of what some people think happened. It
Must have taken millions of years to form the Grand Canyon. Yet, there are canyons created in just a few days that suggest it may have taken only a few months or years. But not millions.
I’m not going to argue with you about the age of the earth. You apparently believe you can get your science from the Bible. There’s no sense in arguing with that level of idiocy.
 
I’m not going to argue with you about the age of the earth. You apparently believe you can get your science from the Bible. There’s no sense in arguing with that level of idiocy.
The science isn't from the bible. You are severely undereducated on the subject. The Bible lays out what happened. It doesn't explain how and why. Creationists then use scientific methods used by evolutionary methods to show the possibility the Bible's account is correct. If you would actually open up their work on this, you would know this.
 
Believing in Santa Claus used to be easier for me to believe than there is actually a Deep State trying to undermine Democracy and turn America over to globalists.
 
It's pretty obvious it's allegory. Deal with it.

There is nothing to indicate any allegory other than you don't agree with what is said.

I do deal with it. I believe what it says. You deal with it by not believing what it says and changing the Word of God.

Quantrill
 
I believe in God. I just don't read the creation account like an unthinking imbecile.

So you say, yet you read the Bible as though it is not the Word of God and change it when you disagree with what it says.

Quantrill
 
Believing in Santa Claus used to be easier for me to believe than there is actually a Deep State trying to undermine Democracy and turn America over to globalists.
It's easier for me to believe there really is a Santa Claus than some almighty invisible being nobody has EVER seen, or that has been proven to exist.
 
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This was a conversation that I was having earlier today. I have faith in Jesus Christ because it's a whole lot easier to have faith in Him than chimpanzees turning into human beings. After all, if that was the case don't you think that would still be happening? Here's another good argument that the Bible is the truth. I didn't use to be a young earther until I saw this video.







Third argument, it has been scientifically proven that Jesus Christ was born, lived, and died. So if He didn't rise from the dead then where are His remains? I actually heard that one from a Charlie Kirk video I just can't remember which one. 🤔

Genesis describes evolution as there are two very different Adams at the beginning and end. Adam is created in Gods likeness which means he can become more evolve.

Monkeys did not become humans we are a separate species.

Evolution is punctuated not continuous and its a scientific fact. Youre problem is you have no ideas what the Bible means.
 
The science isn't from the bible. You are severely undereducated on the subject. The Bible lays out what happened. It doesn't explain how and why. Creationists then use scientific methods used by evolutionary methods to show the possibility the Bible's account is correct. If you would actually open up their work on this, you would know this.
I'm not uneducated, severely or otherwise. I worked with geologists for 38 years. Drilled wells all over the world. Read electric logs. Looked at cuttings. We know quite a lot about the earth's strata and the age of the formations.

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There is nothing to indicate any allegory other than you don't agree with what is said.

I do deal with it. I believe what it says. You deal with it by not believing what it says and changing the Word of God.

Quantrill
Everything indicates allegory. Do you believe talking snakes are real?
 
So you say, yet you read the Bible as though it is not the Word of God and change it when you disagree with what it says.

Quantrill
No. I read like it was intended to be read. It's you who doesn't have a clue.

What have I disagreed with?
 
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