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[Truthmatters]

Nope

 

[Truthmatters]

How many things are Now only on electronic storage?

 

[Ernie S.]

They should have plenty of votes to override the veto. It passed almost unanimously.

from the OP...

Under California statehouse rules, neither Leno nor any other lawmaker may introduce the legislation for at least a year.

They cannot reintroduce it for an override for a year.

No shit? There's a decision in immediate need of a test case!
The first person arresed on evidence obtained from a warrant-less phone search should run right to an appeals court. I can't see even the 9th circuit letting this shit stand.

 

[Truthmatters]

electronic storage is the new paper guys.

Open a phone or open a book.

its the same thing

 

[Seawytch]

They should have plenty of votes to override the veto. It passed almost unanimously.

from the OP...

Under California statehouse rules, neither Leno nor any other lawmaker may introduce the legislation for at least a year.

They cannot reintroduce it for an override for a year.

No shit? There's a decision in immediate need of a test case!
The first person arresed on evidence obtained from a warrant-less phone search should run right to an appeals court. I can't see even the 9th circuit letting this shit stand.

The idea that police can search your smartphone was already decided by the California Supreme Court in People v Diaz. The US Supreme Court declined the case.

Now, let me go on record as saying that I don't support this notion that simply by being arrested (for jaywalking or whatever) that the contents of my iPhone should be subject to search without a warrant...I don't, but what would have happened to legislation that basically overrides a State Supreme court ruling?

Any of the barracks lawyers know?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

If they had a stack of papers in the car could the police search that?

Yeah, that's exactly the same thing.

electronic storage is the new paper.


Dont want someone to look at your phones stuff ?

erase your record of calls frequently

That's not possible. The records are still stored.

 

[Trajan]

California Gov. Jerry Brown is vetoing legislation requiring police to obtain a court warrant to search the mobile phones of suspects at the time of any arrest.

The Sunday veto means that when police arrest anybody in the Golden State, they may search that person’s mobile phone — which in the digital age likely means the contents of persons’ e-mail, call records, text messages, photos, banking activity, cloud-storage services, and even where the phone has traveled.

Calif. Governor Veto Allows Warrantless Cellphone Searches | Threat Level | Wired.com

privacy for me, but not for thee.

 

[Truthmatters]

Yeah, that's exactly the same thing.

electronic storage is the new paper.


Dont want someone to look at your phones stuff ?

erase your record of calls frequently

That's not possible. The records are still stored.

And a beat cop cant retrive any of it can he?

 

[Truthmatters]

California Gov. Jerry Brown is vetoing legislation requiring police to obtain a court warrant to search the mobile phones of suspects at the time of any arrest.

 

[Trajan]

What a shithole CA is.

That's why we left!

I used to say that someone would have to double my salary and offer plenty of other perks to get me to move to CA.

Now, I can't imagine anything that I would accept.

CA is a shithole.

when I worked for my old corp. master, the co. had to provide a 12% pay bump for area cost of living here in santa clara cty.

When they cut that to 8%, they could not get anyone to come here except under a silkily and probably illegal gesture ala 'termination if you don't transfer here' from other out of state plants.

It became a real issue and they moved it back up to 12% and even then, no one was knocking the door down even if their job was downsized in another state, they rather take their chances there as a layoff then come here for a for sure job. it didn't mater in the long run as the co. has moved 90% of its manuf. and R&D out of state now anyway, about 5K very good jobs went with it not incl. all of the contractual services etc. we employed on a day to day basis. .

add to that when ever we got stock, I paid an extra 10.23% of cali state tax for shares that in other states ala oregon etc. where in the same co. employees didn't.

if they sat down and debated how to willfully chase biz. and folks out of the sate they probably could not do a better job than they are right now.

when I cam here many many years ago, it was a place where in still, you could 'start fresh' and be left the fu*k alone, now? well, here we are.

 

[Trajan]

California Gov. Jerry Brown is vetoing legislation requiring police to obtain a court warrant to search the mobile phones of suspects at the time of any arrest.

and your point is?

 

[manifold]

California Gov. Jerry Brown is vetoing legislation requiring police to obtain a court warrant to search the mobile phones of suspects at the time of any arrest.

and your point is?

atop her dunce cap

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Actually, shouldn't the be head of the Sicherheistdienst?

More like Gualieiter.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Oh California. What happened? They've become a fallen giant for sure. Their glory days are definitely over for good. Brown also banned tanning for some Californians this week. That move is likely going to cause quite a few small businesses to fold. More unemployed. Just what California needs. I keep telling people that Socialists/Progressives do not care about freedom & liberty or the Constitution. This is just more proof. Brown is already a disaster out there. Unfortunately things are going to get even worse for Californians. It's very sad.

Wait? What? He banned tanning how did I miss that? You mean there's no more tanning salons in LA? lol

You can't play frisbee on the beach either. Nor smoke. But if you are an illegal alien driving without a license and no registration the cops aren't allowed to impound your car anymore. But only if you are brown. Whitey still gets his car impounded.

What do you expect that state is literally run by lunatic lefties.

lets not get out of hand here.....the Frisbee thing is only if the beach is crowded if not its the call of the life guards.....they showed people throwing it on the news report in the background....(the report had nothing to do with Frisbee s by the way).....

 

[California Girl]

What a shithole CA is.

^^^ This.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Ahh well Del the mobile phone industry has fought tooth and nail to distance themselves from being under the same laws as a landline.
See what it gets us?

You can't search a landline for texts, your email, your web history, or even the pictures you took. One has nothing to do with the other.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

California Gov. Jerry Brown is vetoing legislation requiring police to obtain a court warrant to search the mobile phones of suspects at the time of any arrest.

The Sunday veto means that when police arrest anybody in the Golden State, they may search that person’s mobile phone — which in the digital age likely means the contents of persons’ e-mail, call records, text messages, photos, banking activity, cloud-storage services, and even where the phone has traveled.

Calif. Governor Veto Allows Warrantless Cellphone Searches | Threat Level | Wired.com

If they had a stack of papers in the car could the police search that?

No

 

[Quantum Windbag]

California Gov. Jerry Brown is vetoing legislation requiring police to obtain a court warrant to search the mobile phones of suspects at the time of any arrest.

The Sunday veto means that when police arrest anybody in the Golden State, they may search that person’s mobile phone — which in the digital age likely means the contents of persons’ e-mail, call records, text messages, photos, banking activity, cloud-storage services, and even where the phone has traveled.

Calif. Governor Veto Allows Warrantless Cellphone Searches | Threat Level | Wired.com

If they had a stack of papers in the car could the police search that?

Yeah, that's exactly the same thing.

If only it was, they actually need a warrant to read the papers.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

There is too much information for the cops to be allowed to go fishing. I would argue that a cell phone is a separate enclosed space that needs a warrant.

There is too much unrelated stuff in there.

Of course, if they find a wad of coke in your car, that might be enough to allow them to go before a judge and get the warrant to get the address of your coke dealer off the phone. But they need to convince the judge of that.

Just flipping through the phone on spec is not a good idea.

The cops already pretty much have the right to search your car for whatever if they see a tail light loose.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

from the OP...



They cannot reintroduce it for an override for a year.

No shit? There's a decision in immediate need of a test case!
The first person arresed on evidence obtained from a warrant-less phone search should run right to an appeals court. I can't see even the 9th circuit letting this shit stand.

The idea that police can search your smartphone was already decided by the California Supreme Court in People v Diaz. The US Supreme Court declined the case.

Now, let me go on record as saying that I don't support this notion that simply by being arrested (for jaywalking or whatever) that the contents of my iPhone should be subject to search without a warrant...I don't, but what would have happened to legislation that basically overrides a State Supreme court ruling?

Any of the barracks lawyers know?

The legislation becomes the law, police have to follow it. The only way the court ruling becomes the rule again is if the court rules the law violates the constitution. For that to happen someone would have to show harm in order to have standing, and that ain't going to happen.