Zone1 Really?

[ding]

Yet they consider themselves Christians. Most "Protestants" ( what a lazy catch-all term) don't believe in or practice a great number of things the Catholics do. They don't even have the same Holy book. To lump them together is ridiculous in my opinion. And I'm far from alone in that.

Doesn't matter. Maybe google what Christians believe?

But you still haven't explained the differences between Catholics and Christians and why you think their differences significantly outweigh their similarities.

 

[ding]

I haven't heard any deeper understanding of Christianity on this board than what we are getting from Ding and Meriweather. They speak the truth on the bibles being full of impossible lies and I as an atheist am with them.

Literal belief in the bibles is dying on account of the obvious impossible accounts of history.
The Catholic church blew it all to hell with their acceptance of evolution.

If you deny Darwinian evolution, in favour of creation nonsense then now's I good time to make up your mind!

You have very poor manners. Laughing leads to crying.

 

[Donald H]

Doesn't matter. Maybe google what Christians believe?

But you still haven't explained the differences between Catholics and Christians and why you think their differences significantly outweigh their similarities.

Catholics were Christians the last time I considered the question.

I doubt it will be long before all 1000 xtian denoms accept evolution too. The Pope has broken the spell and the rational christians are rushing for the doors.

It's a totally new belief system that doesn't come with the lirelake risk!

Did the scribes purposely fill the bibles with ridiculous lies in order to provide an escape route for modern christians to come?

Did they foresee Darwin?

 

[Unkotare]

You are describing a perfect world that cannot exist till Jesus returns

Missing the point.

 

[ding]

Catholics were Christians the last time I considered the question.

I doubt it will be long before all 1000 xtian denoms accept evolution too. The Pope has broken the spell and the rational christians are rushing for the doors.

It's a totally new belief system that doesn't come with the lirelake risk!

Did the scribes purposely fill the bibles with ridiculous lies in order to provide an escape route for modern christians to come?

Did they foresee Darwin?

No one asked you.

 

[Vastator]

Doesn't matter. Maybe google what Christians believe?

But you still haven't explained the differences between Catholics and Christians and why you think their differences significantly outweigh their similarities.

Well... For one, they don't have the same Holy Book. 2. By, and large, there are very different views on praying to the dead, and Sainthood. There's a lot. And you know this. Not judging Catholics in this thread, but definitely not the same.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

It seems to me that a lot of people on this site who profess to be Christian often forget this one:

"Each of you knows that the foundation of our faith is charity. Without it, our religion would crumble. We will never be utruly Catholic unless we conform our entire lives to the two commandments that are the essence of the Catholic faith: to love the Lord, our God, with all our strength, and to love our neighbor as ourselves."— Blessed Pier GiorgiFrassati

This is CATHOLICISM. Christians don't care about Catholic writings.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Where on earth do you get that from? I live and work with people from literally every corner of the world every day. Are you grasping at something here?

He is merely exposing his own racist beliefs through projection.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Let's take a look at how we love ourselves: When we give ourselves a dressing down, many times if we were to give another person that same, well-deserved dressing down, we would get a punch in the face, or it might be a long time before that person ever spoke to us again. Every time we take a flight we are reminded to put on our own oxygen mask before attempting to help others. How well do we love ourselves, and should we take a look at that first? A third example: I have two chinchillas (Peruvian rodents for those unfamiliar with chinchillas.) If the house were to catch on fire, I know absolutely I would die trying to rescue them. Is this a prime example of how much we value even our pets and/or how little we value ourselves?

Could it be what Christians have forgotten is how to love and value themselves? Could it be Christians, whom you are so critical of, are not valuing themselves? How can Christians have any esteem for themselves when they are constantly being criticized and demeaned by those so much better than they are?

That's because if you try to help someone else first, you'll likely pass out before you can put your own mask on, dooming you both!

You cannot seriously be that dense!

 

[Meriweather]

That's because if you try to help someone else first, you'll likely pass out before you can put your own mask on, dooming you both!

So you caught that, Captain Obvious. Unfortunately you couldn't seem to make the leap from one must love and do for him/herself to reach the stage of being able to help another without failing his/her own self. Instead of Captain, let's make that demotion to Lieutenant.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So you caught that, Captain Obvious. Unfortunately you couldn't seem to make the leap from one must love and do for him/herself to reach the stage of being able to help another without failing his/her own self. Instead of Captain, let's make that demotion to Lieutenant.

Why is it now, after I pointed it out, you suddenly agree? You obviously didn't before. Typical Catholic hypocrisy?

 

[BackAgain]

It seems to me that a lot of people on this site who profess to be Christian often forget this one:

"Each of you knows that the foundation of our faith is charity. Without it, our religion would crumble. We will never be truly Catholic unless we conform our entire lives to the two commandments that are the essence of the Catholic faith: to love the Lord, our God, with all our strength, and to love our neighbor as ourselves."— Blessed Pier Giorgio Frassati

One can be a Christian without being a Catholic. So one may not qualify as sufficiently “Catholic,” if that is the metric, but that may not be the right metric for all Christians.

 

[Meriweather]

Why is it now, after I pointed it out, you suddenly agree? You obviously didn't before. Typical Catholic hypocrisy?

Except...I did agree because I already knew it. That you cannot fathom everyone already knows it is nothing short of amazing. What also has me shaking my head that everything in that entire post was straight from Catholic homilies. If you wish to disparage Catholics and the Catholic Church, you have quite a way to go. Better luck next time.

 

[Woodznutz]

Ding is not Satan. Ding is not yet captured the majority but according to my thread on the 'bibles being lies', he's close to 50/50. And that's on this board that has turned to censoring free speech that supports him.

Literal belief in the bibles is for those who choose to live in their fantasy world of lies. Are you with Ding and I yet?

My Biblical beliefs have served me well.

 

[Meriweather]

You have very poor manners. Laughing leads to crying.

"They speak the truth on the bibles being full of impossible lies and I as an atheist am with them."

Hey, have you ever said that the Bible is full of impossible lies? I've never seen you post that and I know I never have, but it pleases he who shall not be noted to not only change what the Bible presents, but also to change what actual posts have said.

I love the lessons each Biblical account presents that are still applicable to us today. Exodus can illustrate our own escape from the slavery of sin, our journey across a desert, and our experiences of bread that comes down from heaven. It's glorious. But like so many other Biblical stories/lessons, there are some who go haring off to the Sinai desert to discover if a great number of people left signs they had been there with hopes they can "prove" the Bible "lies". It's a prime example of missing the forest for the trees.... Observing this, you're right.... One doesn't know whether to laugh or cry, so why not do both.

 

[Woodznutz]

I'm not sure you would be considered a Christian.

I won't argue with you about that (Paul cautioned about useless arguments).

 

[Unkotare]

I was once in close communication with a professor of Theoretical Physics who wrote a fairly huge text about the Theory of Everything. For some time, it was considered one of the leading challenges of physics to devise a theory that could encompass everything we knew about physics, quantum mechanics, etc. He was invited to give a speech at a conference at MIT outlining his work in this area. It was a very interesting conference with many diverse speakers. Since we had been communicating back and forth about his writings, he invited me to speak along with him about his theories. He delved deeply into the physics of quantum mechanics and how various aspects of that tie together, then he had me give a speech about how each aspect of what he had spoken about tied into the various mythologies, origin stories, and lore of different cultures all over the world in all different cultures. Our combined talk was very well received by some of the leading authorities in science and academia. A lot of the people there would understand what I have been trying to say to a lot of the people here.

 

[ding]

Well... For one, they don't have the same Holy Book. 2. By, and large, there are very different views on praying to the dead, and Sainthood. There's a lot. And you know this. Not judging Catholics in this thread, but definitely not the same.

do catholics have more in common with protestants than less?

Shared beliefs

• Both believe in the Trinity, the idea that God is one essence in three persons: the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit
• Both believe that Jesus is the Savior of the world
• Both believe that the Bible is the Word of God
• Both believe that without grace, humans are lost because of sin

Key differences

• Catholics believe that tradition and scripture should be accepted and honored equally. Protestants tend to view scripture as more authoritative than tradition.
• Catholics believe that Jesus redeemed everyone but each person must accept that gift for salvation. Protestants believe that salvation is attained only through faith in Jesus.
• Catholics tend to focus on rituals, liturgy, and structure in worship. Protestants tend to focus on scripture and have more straightforward worship services.

Despite their differences, Catholics and Protestants share many principles that can help them better understand each other's beliefs.

 

[ding]

This is CATHOLICISM. Christians don't care about Catholic writings.

That's their loss.

 

[ding]

"They speak the truth on the bibles being full of impossible lies and I as an atheist am with them."

Hey, have you ever said that the Bible is full of impossible lies? I've never seen you post that and I know I never have, but it pleases he who shall not be noted to not only change what the Bible presents, but also to change what actual posts have said.

I love the lessons each Biblical account presents that are still applicable to us today. Exodus can illustrate our own escape from the slavery of sin, our journey across a desert, and our experiences of bread that comes down from heaven. It's glorious. But like so many other Biblical stories/lessons, there are some who go haring off to the Sinai desert to discover if a great number of people left signs they had been there with hopes they can "prove" the Bible "lies". It's a prime example of missing the forest for the trees.... Observing this, you're right.... One doesn't know whether to laugh or cry, so why not do both.

Nope. I've never said that. That's just Donald being a troll behaving as if his actions have no consequences in this life. And yes, people who dismiss the Bible are missing out on a great deal of wisdom because they are so certain they cannot be wrong.