Real Science…Not Darwin

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It appears that Darwinian evolution has become a hot topic….the supporters of same are becoming rabid: it must mean that the truth is getting to them. At the very least this thread will provide an understanding of the terms needed in the debate.



1.There is the saying that apples to so very many government school graduates: "There are those who don't know, and don't know that they don't know.” Lots of ‘em were exposed in several recent discussions of the weakness of Darwin’s Theory, where there were comments like this:

Evolution is a fact.” Science Believers

And this…

Evolution [Darwin’s Theory] is a fact and is the basis of all of biology. The theory of evolution is the most robust, well supported scientific theory in the history of mankind.The Pretense Called Evolution


And this winner:

“Back long ago there was only species of human, now we have Whites, Blacks, Abos, Asians... that came from evolution.The Most Famous Fakes In Science



2. Either these geniuses never learned any science….or they learned exactly what the Left’s schools wanted them to ‘learn.’ This thread will teach the meaning of terms without which there can be no discussion of Darwin: evolution, species, microevolution and macroevolution.




3. Evolution means inheritable change over time. It means new species. Most important for the discussion of evolution is that it is not synonymous with Darwin’s theory. That hypothesis is simply one of a score of ideas to explain the diversity of life. The word ‘fact’ means that it is proven, not in dispute. Darwin’s particular version of explanation is not only not proven, not a fact, but it has been disproven in terms of the fossil record, the value of mutations, the belief in a common ancestor for all present life, and observation of vertebrate embryos (Haeckel’s diagram). A study of primary articles testing all sorts of theories, leads to the conclusion that no theory to explain diversity has ever panned out as far as empirical proof. No one has produced, or seen, new species evolved.

Again: no current explanation answers the question….yet government school grads come away with the very opposite belief.


4. “Before going further we should note the obvious: if a poll were taken of all the scientists in the world, the great majority would say they believed Darwinism to be true. But scientists, like everybody else, base most of their opinions on the word of other people. Of the great majority who accept Darwinism, most (though not all) do so based on authority. Also, and unfortunately, too often criticisms have been dismissed by the scientific community for fear of giving ammunition to creationists. It is ironic that in the name of protecting science, trenchant scientific criticism of natural selection has been brushed aside.”
Michael Behe



5. The reason to take this debate seriously is that Darwin’s theory is foisted on students, and the easily led, as a proven fact by the establishment’s school system, by neo-Marxists in academia, by atheists, and lies are told in support of this theory.

This alone should make every person of integrity furious! And curious….’why would lies be necessary whether the theory is true or not?’

What makes advancing it so important?

Why not tell the truth? To whom or to what would the truth be......dangerous, or damaging????
 

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It reminds me of the great debate over whether the Sun or Earth was the center of the Universe. Eventually, we found out, it was neither.
 
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It reminds me of the great debate over whether the Sun or Earth was the center of the Universe. Eventually, we found out, it was neither.

You always 'find out' in my threads: I provide the truth, and support same.

I believe you, in fact, will benefit from my explanation of the meaning of species.
 

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The only ones dumb enough not to accept evolution are Home Skooled
 

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Evolution is a FACT
Creatures evolved from simple to complex

It is supported by Biology, Fossils, Geology and DNA

Only Home Skool freaks can’t accept it
 
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6. To begin at the beginning, Darwin does not begin at the beginning. The origin of life is not part of his epic.
He begins with what had been known since mankind began raising food. Animal husbandry, farming domestication, raising livestock and selecting the best versions is simply logical. You can call it ‘natural selection’ if you wish. You try to breed the best ones of a type.

It's not accurate to give Darwin credit for the idea that had been in operation for millennia.


Democrat Michael Bloomberg “said … that farmers don't need as much brainpower for their jobs as do those working in the information economy, …Bloomberg said, "I could teach anybody, even people in this room, no offense intended, to be a farmer. It’s a process. You dig a hole, you put a seed in, you put dirt on top, add water, up comes the corn. You could learn that."
Mike Bloomberg Thinks Farmers Are Stupid

Maybe, maybe not, but breeders always knew that you can’t breed, say…horses with pigs. In science, we speak of the types as ‘species.’ And any change, alteration, modification within a species is not evolution.




7. Darwin always knew that his theory rises or falls based on explaining how the original species, assuming there was one original one, became different species. That’s why he named his thesis “On The Origin Of Species.”
His explanation has never....NEVER.....been proven.

Harvard evolutionary biologist Ernst Mayr wrote “for he was fully conscious of the fact that the change from one species into another was the most fundamental problem of evolution.”
Ernst Mayr, The Growth of Biological Thought, p.403.



You cannot pass ‘go’ unless you understand the meaning of ‘species.’ I’ll reveal it next.
 

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You always 'find out' in my threads: I provide the truth, and support same.
Well, see, you say that.

I PROVE it.

My posts are always linked, documented, and sourced.
Yes, I've seen your sources. Not exactly unbiased.

I notice you didn't provide any examples.

I'm gonna have to relegate your post to the heap of Liberal responses, which boil down to the brilliant "is not, issssss nooottttttt!!!" variety.


Try to be as precise as I am.....I publish truth with the diligence of a UN translator.
 

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The reason why it is an important discussion is because the Left believes that "Evolution" disproves the Bible. It renders all Believers to be superstitious fools. This is why they insist that Evolution is a "fact."

And of course, the irony is that the very statement that, "Evolution is a fact" reveals the scientific ignorance of the speaker. No true scientist would ever express such nonsense.
 

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I'm gonna have to relegate your post to the heap of Liberal responses
I'm not a liberal or a Liberal ... but, that doesn't interfere with me rejecting the latest theory of Evolution.
 
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The reason why it is an important discussion is because the Left believes that "Evolution" disproves the Bible. It renders all Believers to be superstitious fools. This is why they insist that Evolution is a "fact."

And of course, the irony is that the very statement that, "Evolution is a fact" reveals the scientific ignorance of the speaker. No true scientist would ever express such nonsense.


Your post needs no validation, as many of not most of Darwin's supporters who are scientists by vocation, are Marxists by religion.

"Just because any religious idea, any idea of any god at all, any flirtation even with a god, is the most inexpressible foulness, particularly tolerantly (and often even favourably) accepted by the democratic bourgeoisie—for that very reason it is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful “infection.” A million physical sins, dirty tricks, acts of violence and infections are much more easily discovered by the crowd, and therefore are much less dangerous, than the nubile, spiritual idea of god, dressed up in the most attractive “ideological” costumes." Letter from Lenin to Maxim Gorky, Written on November 13 or 14, 1913 Lenin 55. TO MAXIM GORKY
 

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