The Most Famous Fakes In Science

[Mac1958]

Now, what is your personal theory on how we got here? Precisely?

Darwin didn't create Theory of Evolution. He just explained it (which he became famous for) and now we are finding out that he was WRONG. He was practically wrong about everything and was a racist to boot. His ideas led to social Darwinism, eugenics (Darwin supported his cousin Frances Galton), Hitler, and the Holocaust. His ideas led to black genocide through abortions and Planned Parenthood, i.e. liberal causes.

So how did we get here? Political Chic won't tell me. I've asked her before.

Is it a secret?

 

[fncceo]

People were a lot smaller back then, meaning that over time, we're evolving to be taller humans.

While their are examples of human evolution in recent times, brown fat for example, but human average heights are more a function of changes and improvements in diets than with genetic mutation.

One interesting nutrition based changes has been onset ages of puberty in Asian females. Only two generations ago, the average onset of puberty in an Korean or Japanese girl was 17 or 18 years-old. Because of an increase in fat and dairy in the diet, that has gone down to be more in line with the Western onset of 13 or 14 years-old.

That is not evolution.

That's what I said.

No you didn't.


No new species in your post.

" While their are examples of human evolution in recent times, brown fat for example, but human average heights are more a function of changes and improvements in diets than with genetic mutation. "

Still no new species.

All human beings can interbreed.

If you took the time to actually read what I wrote, you'd realize I'm agreeing with you. But, since you won't, take solace in that fact.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Science is like religion, the origins of the universe and mankind are all theories...

Theories are the best ideas that fit the available data. Unlike religion however, when the data changes, the theories must change as well.

What do you say when the "available data" is shown to be mostly lies?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Now, what is your personal theory on how we got here? Precisely?

Darwin didn't create Theory of Evolution. He just explained it (which he became famous for) and now we are finding out that he was WRONG. He was practically wrong about everything and was a racist to boot. His ideas led to social Darwinism, eugenics (Darwin supported his cousin Frances Galton), Hitler, and the Holocaust. His ideas led to black genocide through abortions and Planned Parenthood, i.e. liberal causes.

So how did we get here? Political Chic won't tell me. I've asked her before.

Is it a secret?

This is a problem when the uneducated, you, sneak in.

I'll bet you have no idea who Miller and Urey are, and why their work and your attempt to change the subject, have no place in this thread.

 

[Taz]

People were a lot smaller back then, meaning that over time, we're evolving to be taller humans.

While their are examples of human evolution in recent times, brown fat for example, but human average heights are more a function of changes and improvements in diets than with genetic mutation.

One interesting nutrition based changes has been onset ages of puberty in Asian females. Only two generations ago, the average onset of puberty in an Korean or Japanese girl was 17 or 18 years-old. Because of an increase in fat and dairy in the diet, that has gone down to be more in line with the Western onset of 13 or 14 years-old.

That is not evolution.

Humans getting taller over time IS evolution, they are changing over time, that's what evolution is. Even to deniers like you.

 

[fncceo]

He wrote to Karl Marx: "Darwin, by the way, whom I’m reading just now, is absolutely splendid. There was one aspect of teleology that had yet to be demolished

The fact that Engels was a fan of Darwin isn't a condemnation of Darwin any more than the fact that Hitler's love of Dogs prevents me from loving my puppy.

If you want to see a modern example of a scientific principle for personal and political gain ... look no further than Al Gore.

 

[PoliticalChic]

People were a lot smaller back then, meaning that over time, we're evolving to be taller humans.

While their are examples of human evolution in recent times, brown fat for example, but human average heights are more a function of changes and improvements in diets than with genetic mutation.

One interesting nutrition based changes has been onset ages of puberty in Asian females. Only two generations ago, the average onset of puberty in an Korean or Japanese girl was 17 or 18 years-old. Because of an increase in fat and dairy in the diet, that has gone down to be more in line with the Western onset of 13 or 14 years-old.

That is not evolution.

Humans getting taller over time IS evolution, they are changing over time, that's what evolution is. Even to deniers like you.

You're an ignorant fool, and waste no time in proving it.

 

[Taz]

People were a lot smaller back then, meaning that over time, we're evolving to be taller humans.

While their are examples of human evolution in recent times, brown fat for example, but human average heights are more a function of changes and improvements in diets than with genetic mutation.

One interesting nutrition based changes has been onset ages of puberty in Asian females. Only two generations ago, the average onset of puberty in an Korean or Japanese girl was 17 or 18 years-old. Because of an increase in fat and dairy in the diet, that has gone down to be more in line with the Western onset of 13 or 14 years-old.

It's all evolution, just like I used to eat meat, but my thinking evolved towards a healthier lifestyle and now I'm a vegetarian. That's another example of someone evolving, and it's following down my family tree as my children don't eat meat either.

I think you're being deliberately obtuse.

Humans changing over time, that's what evolution is. We're getting taller because taller people are generally more successful.

 

[Wyatt earp]

What if you believed in a scientific principle....and became aware that it is only supported with lies and fabrications.
Would you continue to believe it?
It is....and you do. I'll prove it in this thread.



1.It would be amusing if it weren’t so tragic: the lies that have been perpetrated in government school. Like this...

“Evolution is a fact.” Science Believers

And this…

“Evolution [Darwin’s Theory] is a fact and is the basis of all of biology. The theory of evolution is the most robust, well supported scientific theory in the history of mankind.” The Pretense Called Evolution




2. The ’proof’ offered by a number of those fooled is the fossil record, and the mechanism of mutations, both of which have been proven false. Proof can be found here:

The Pretense Called Evolution

and

The Biology Term For History

Both scrupulously documented and supported.



3. The reason this thread should be in Politics, not Science, is because Darwin’s plan, colloquially referred to as evolution, is that it, like the hallmark of politics, is based on lies.
In fact, that alone should make every person of integrity furious! And curious….’why would lies be necessary whether the theory is true or not?’ What makes advancing it so important?



4. One example is this, from the textbook currently used in NYC high schools, and probably throughout the nation:

“By examining fossils from sequential layers of rock, one could view how a species had changed and produced different species over time.” Kenneth R. Miller and Joseph S. Levine, Prentice Hall Biology (Upper Saddle River, NJ: Pearson Education, 2002), 382.

The actual fossil record shows the opposite of Darwin’s beliefs: " A few of the gaps (which are systematic in the fossil record) they claim to fill, but there’s another deposit in the region that throws the whole evolutionary story into disrepute: the Chengyiang bed in southern China. Here, the Cambrian Explosion has been documented in fine detail; all the major animal phyla appear in the early Cambrian without precursors."
Chinese Fossil Beds Astound Paleontologists (http://www.nature.com/index.html?file=/nature/journal/v421/n6925/full/nature01420_fs.html)

Entirely new lines simply materialize without the myriad failed changes that Darwin predicted.


And, why is it acceptable, or necessary, to lie to make the point?
But there is an even greater fabrication used to advance Darwinian beliefs....you learned it....and believed it….I’ll get to it…

I'll prove evolution to you. Look at houses and clothes from 200 years ado. People were a lot smaller back then, meaning that over time, we're evolving to be taller humans. It's a fact.

Well I just blew your theory out of the water.

 

[PoliticalChic]

He wrote to Karl Marx: "Darwin, by the way, whom I’m reading just now, is absolutely splendid. There was one aspect of teleology that had yet to be demolished

The fact that Engels was a fan of Darwin isn't a condemnation of Darwin any more than the fact that Hitler's love of Dogs prevents me from loving my puppy.

If you want to see a modern example of a scientific principle for personal and political gain ... look no further than Al Gore.

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The point is that Marx and Engels found in Darwin's theory the support for the atheism their views....all of Leftism....are built on.

. While the 20th century proved the fallacy that is Marxist communism, unfortunately our neo-Marxist government schools persist in propping up that love of Marx’s, the theory with more holes than Swiss cheese, Darwin’s Origin of Species thesis.

Certainly the fact that in a century and a half, with more professional scientists at work now than in all of history combined, there has never….NEVER….been even one case of one species becoming another, not in nature, nor in a laboratory.

But, some clearly false narratives survive….like socialism….and Darwinian evolution.

 

[fncceo]

People were a lot smaller back then, meaning that over time, we're evolving to be taller humans.

While their are examples of human evolution in recent times, brown fat for example, but human average heights are more a function of changes and improvements in diets than with genetic mutation.

One interesting nutrition based changes has been onset ages of puberty in Asian females. Only two generations ago, the average onset of puberty in an Korean or Japanese girl was 17 or 18 years-old. Because of an increase in fat and dairy in the diet, that has gone down to be more in line with the Western onset of 13 or 14 years-old.

It's all evolution, just like I used to eat meat, but my thinking evolved towards a healthier lifestyle and now I'm a vegetarian. That's another example of someone evolving, and it's following down my family tree as my children don't eat meat either.

I think you're being deliberately obtuse.

Humans changing over time, that's what evolution is. We're getting taller because taller people are generally more successful.

If you're not careful, someone might actually believe you're serious.

 

[Wyatt earp]

People were a lot smaller back then, meaning that over time, we're evolving to be taller humans.

While their are examples of human evolution in recent times, brown fat for example, but human average heights are more a function of changes and improvements in diets than with genetic mutation.

One interesting nutrition based changes has been onset ages of puberty in Asian females. Only two generations ago, the average onset of puberty in an Korean or Japanese girl was 17 or 18 years-old. Because of an increase in fat and dairy in the diet, that has gone down to be more in line with the Western onset of 13 or 14 years-old.

It's all evolution, just like I used to eat meat, but my thinking evolved towards a healthier lifestyle and now I'm a vegetarian. That's another example of someone evolving, and it's following down my family tree as my children don't eat meat either.

I think you're being deliberately obtuse.

Humans changing over time, that's what evolution is. We're getting taller because taller people are generally more successful.

Try fatter, not taller and it has to do with super chickens

 

[Taz]

People were a lot smaller back then, meaning that over time, we're evolving to be taller humans.

While their are examples of human evolution in recent times, brown fat for example, but human average heights are more a function of changes and improvements in diets than with genetic mutation.

One interesting nutrition based changes has been onset ages of puberty in Asian females. Only two generations ago, the average onset of puberty in an Korean or Japanese girl was 17 or 18 years-old. Because of an increase in fat and dairy in the diet, that has gone down to be more in line with the Western onset of 13 or 14 years-old.

That is not evolution.

Humans getting taller over time IS evolution, they are changing over time, that's what evolution is. Even to deniers like you.

You're an ignorant fool, and waste no time in proving it.

Back long ago there was only species of human, now we have Whites, Blacks, Abos, Asians... that came from evolution.

 

[Taz]

People were a lot smaller back then, meaning that over time, we're evolving to be taller humans.

While their are examples of human evolution in recent times, brown fat for example, but human average heights are more a function of changes and improvements in diets than with genetic mutation.

One interesting nutrition based changes has been onset ages of puberty in Asian females. Only two generations ago, the average onset of puberty in an Korean or Japanese girl was 17 or 18 years-old. Because of an increase in fat and dairy in the diet, that has gone down to be more in line with the Western onset of 13 or 14 years-old.

It's all evolution, just like I used to eat meat, but my thinking evolved towards a healthier lifestyle and now I'm a vegetarian. That's another example of someone evolving, and it's following down my family tree as my children don't eat meat either.

I think you're being deliberately obtuse.

Humans changing over time, that's what evolution is. We're getting taller because taller people are generally more successful.

If you're not careful, someone might actually believe you're serious.

We're genetically transformed to be taller as a whole. Geez you're slow.

 

[fncceo]

The point is that Marx and Engels found in Darwin's theory the support for the atheism their views....all of Leftism....are built on.

The nuclear arms race was possible because of the works of Lise Meitner and Otto Frisch.

V2 rockets killed thousands of Brits because of the modest experiments of Robert Goddard.

Scientific principles are often used for nefarious purposes. That doesn't make the science any less valid.

 

[fncceo]

People were a lot smaller back then, meaning that over time, we're evolving to be taller humans.

While their are examples of human evolution in recent times, brown fat for example, but human average heights are more a function of changes and improvements in diets than with genetic mutation.

One interesting nutrition based changes has been onset ages of puberty in Asian females. Only two generations ago, the average onset of puberty in an Korean or Japanese girl was 17 or 18 years-old. Because of an increase in fat and dairy in the diet, that has gone down to be more in line with the Western onset of 13 or 14 years-old.

It's all evolution, just like I used to eat meat, but my thinking evolved towards a healthier lifestyle and now I'm a vegetarian. That's another example of someone evolving, and it's following down my family tree as my children don't eat meat either.

I think you're being deliberately obtuse.

Humans changing over time, that's what evolution is. We're getting taller because taller people are generally more successful.

If you're not careful, someone might actually believe you're serious.

We're genetically transformed to be taller as a whole. Geez you're slow.

If we reverted to a Medieval Diet, we would see that gain in stature disappear in a single generation. It's not a genetic mutation.

Want proof? Raise your children on the diet of a medieval peasant and see how tall they get.

 

[Hollie]

What if you believed in a scientific principle....and became aware that it is only supported with lies and fabrications.
Would you continue to believe it?
It is....and you do. I'll prove it in this thread.



1.It would be amusing if it weren’t so tragic: the lies that have been perpetrated in government school. Like this...

“Evolution is a fact.” Science Believers

And this…

“Evolution [Darwin’s Theory] is a fact and is the basis of all of biology. The theory of evolution is the most robust, well supported scientific theory in the history of mankind.” The Pretense Called Evolution




2. The ’proof’ offered by a number of those fooled is the fossil record, and the mechanism of mutations, both of which have been proven false. Proof can be found here:

The Pretense Called Evolution

and

The Biology Term For History

Both scrupulously documented and supported.



3. The reason this thread should be in Politics, not Science, is because Darwin’s plan, colloquially referred to as evolution, is that it, like the hallmark of politics, is based on lies.
In fact, that alone should make every person of integrity furious! And curious….’why would lies be necessary whether the theory is true or not?’ What makes advancing it so important?



4. One example is this, from the textbook currently used in NYC high schools, and probably throughout the nation:

“By examining fossils from sequential layers of rock, one could view how a species had changed and produced different species over time.” Kenneth R. Miller and Joseph S. Levine, Prentice Hall Biology (Upper Saddle River, NJ: Pearson Education, 2002), 382.

The actual fossil record shows the opposite of Darwin’s beliefs: " A few of the gaps (which are systematic in the fossil record) they claim to fill, but there’s another deposit in the region that throws the whole evolutionary story into disrepute: the Chengyiang bed in southern China. Here, the Cambrian Explosion has been documented in fine detail; all the major animal phyla appear in the early Cambrian without precursors."
Chinese Fossil Beds Astound Paleontologists (http://www.nature.com/index.html?file=/nature/journal/v421/n6925/full/nature01420_fs.html)

Entirely new lines simply materialize without the myriad failed changes that Darwin predicted.


And, why is it acceptable, or necessary, to lie to make the point?
But there is an even greater fabrication used to advance Darwinian beliefs....you learned it....and believed it….I’ll get to it…

Okay, you've convinced me.

Now, what is your personal theory on how we got here? Precisely?

Darwin has nothing to do with 'how we got here'...how life began. It is provided as an explanation for the diversity of life as it appears now.

There are numerous theories, a number of which I have noted in the past.

Darwin's is without proof, and in many ways, disproven.

The real question is why it is sooooo important for certain ideologies to claim science has found the explanation for speciation when, as of now, it has not.


Why is Darwin so important to a certain political view?

So you don't want to tell me? Is this another secret?

How do you think we got here? What is your best personal guess? Or perhaps you're like me, and you admit you don't know?

I did tell you.


It appears that you're too dense for this topic.

Okay, so you're a Christian.

Why is that of importance to you?

Are you planning to propose?


I should tell you now, you could be a chocolate covered millionaire, giving away free shoes, and the answer would still be no.



Can you take a hint?

That's okay, sweetie. You'll often play this game, and you'll often quote the Bible, but you carefully stop there.

You're not the first person to fraudulently use religion as a weapon, and you won't be the last.

You and the Jihadis, peas in a pod, huh?

There is nothing about religion in my posts.

You are lying because I've embarrassed you again.

When your cut and paste “quotes” are taken from creation.com, the Disco’tute and Answers in Genesis, yes, your posts are about religion.

 

[Taz]

People were a lot smaller back then, meaning that over time, we're evolving to be taller humans.

While their are examples of human evolution in recent times, brown fat for example, but human average heights are more a function of changes and improvements in diets than with genetic mutation.

One interesting nutrition based changes has been onset ages of puberty in Asian females. Only two generations ago, the average onset of puberty in an Korean or Japanese girl was 17 or 18 years-old. Because of an increase in fat and dairy in the diet, that has gone down to be more in line with the Western onset of 13 or 14 years-old.

It's all evolution, just like I used to eat meat, but my thinking evolved towards a healthier lifestyle and now I'm a vegetarian. That's another example of someone evolving, and it's following down my family tree as my children don't eat meat either.

I think you're being deliberately obtuse.

Humans changing over time, that's what evolution is. We're getting taller because taller people are generally more successful.

If you're not careful, someone might actually believe you're serious.

We're genetically transformed to be taller as a whole. Geez you're slow.

If we reverted to a Medieval Diet, we would see that gain in stature disappear in a single generation. It's not a genetic mutation.

Want proof? Raise your children on the diet of a medieval peasant and see how tall they get.

Since that diet thing's never been done, you can't call that proof. Please try again.

 

[Mac1958]

What if you believed in a scientific principle....and became aware that it is only supported with lies and fabrications.
Would you continue to believe it?
It is....and you do. I'll prove it in this thread.



1.It would be amusing if it weren’t so tragic: the lies that have been perpetrated in government school. Like this...

“Evolution is a fact.” Science Believers

And this…

“Evolution [Darwin’s Theory] is a fact and is the basis of all of biology. The theory of evolution is the most robust, well supported scientific theory in the history of mankind.” The Pretense Called Evolution




2. The ’proof’ offered by a number of those fooled is the fossil record, and the mechanism of mutations, both of which have been proven false. Proof can be found here:

The Pretense Called Evolution

and

The Biology Term For History

Both scrupulously documented and supported.



3. The reason this thread should be in Politics, not Science, is because Darwin’s plan, colloquially referred to as evolution, is that it, like the hallmark of politics, is based on lies.
In fact, that alone should make every person of integrity furious! And curious….’why would lies be necessary whether the theory is true or not?’ What makes advancing it so important?



4. One example is this, from the textbook currently used in NYC high schools, and probably throughout the nation:

“By examining fossils from sequential layers of rock, one could view how a species had changed and produced different species over time.” Kenneth R. Miller and Joseph S. Levine, Prentice Hall Biology (Upper Saddle River, NJ: Pearson Education, 2002), 382.

The actual fossil record shows the opposite of Darwin’s beliefs: " A few of the gaps (which are systematic in the fossil record) they claim to fill, but there’s another deposit in the region that throws the whole evolutionary story into disrepute: the Chengyiang bed in southern China. Here, the Cambrian Explosion has been documented in fine detail; all the major animal phyla appear in the early Cambrian without precursors."
Chinese Fossil Beds Astound Paleontologists (http://www.nature.com/index.html?file=/nature/journal/v421/n6925/full/nature01420_fs.html)

Entirely new lines simply materialize without the myriad failed changes that Darwin predicted.


And, why is it acceptable, or necessary, to lie to make the point?
But there is an even greater fabrication used to advance Darwinian beliefs....you learned it....and believed it….I’ll get to it…

Okay, you've convinced me.

Now, what is your personal theory on how we got here? Precisely?

Darwin has nothing to do with 'how we got here'...how life began. It is provided as an explanation for the diversity of life as it appears now.

There are numerous theories, a number of which I have noted in the past.

Darwin's is without proof, and in many ways, disproven.

The real question is why it is sooooo important for certain ideologies to claim science has found the explanation for speciation when, as of now, it has not.


Why is Darwin so important to a certain political view?

So you don't want to tell me? Is this another secret?

How do you think we got here? What is your best personal guess? Or perhaps you're like me, and you admit you don't know?

I did tell you.


It appears that you're too dense for this topic.

Okay, so you're a Christian.

Why is that of importance to you?

Are you planning to propose?


I should tell you now, you could be a chocolate covered millionaire, giving away free shoes, and the answer would still be no.



Can you take a hint?

That's okay, sweetie. You'll often play this game, and you'll often quote the Bible, but you carefully stop there.

You're not the first person to fraudulently use religion as a weapon, and you won't be the last.

You and the Jihadis, peas in a pod, huh?

There is nothing about religion in my posts.

You are lying because I've embarrassed you again.

When your cut and paste “quotes” are taken from creation.com, the Disco’tute and Answers in Genesis, yes, your posts are about religion.

She's not meant to be taken seriously.

 

[Hollie]

He wrote to Karl Marx: "Darwin, by the way, whom I’m reading just now, is absolutely splendid. There was one aspect of teleology that had yet to be demolished

The fact that Engels was a fan of Darwin isn't a condemnation of Darwin any more than the fact that Hitler's love of Dogs prevents me from loving my puppy.

If you want to see a modern example of a scientific principle for personal and political gain ... look no further than Al Gore.

View attachment 354805

The point is that Marx and Engels found in Darwin's theory the support for the atheism their views....all of Leftism....are built on.

. While the 20th century proved the fallacy that is Marxist communism, unfortunately our neo-Marxist government schools persist in propping up that love of Marx’s, the theory with more holes than Swiss cheese, Darwin’s Origin of Species thesis.

Certainly the fact that in a century and a half, with more professional scientists at work now than in all of history combined, there has never….NEVER….been even one case of one species becoming another, not in nature, nor in a laboratory.

But, some clearly false narratives survive….like socialism….and Darwinian evolution.

1. “variation within a population” is what we call biological evolution. You’re at a disadvantage in the thread you opened because you lack a science vocabulary. It’s actually comical that you use a term describing biological evolution but you fail to recognize the examples you use.

2. Another term you don’t understand is speciation. That’s not surprising as the fundie ministries you use as the sources of your cutting and pasting have a predefined agenda that is announced by the “Statement of Faith” that is common to the various fundie ministries.

3. Observed Instances of Speciation

4. Some More Observed Speciation Events

5. CB910: New species

6. You enjoy being publicly humiliated, right.

7. This is where you’re supposed to cut and paste your usual Dean Kenyon and David Berlinski “quotes”. Nothing says hyper-religious like cutting and pasting from fundamentalist ministries.