NYcarbineer
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Yeah.... He did that with honest books too!!!
Obama should definitely try that sometime.
Post Obama's numbers for November 2010.
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Post Obama's numbers for November 2010.
Sallow
The Big Bad Wolf.
Genocides of the American Indians..the Filipinos and the Vietnamese.
Chief.
And it ain't funny.
Wicked Jester
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Then you must really hate Obama because he lies every time he opens his damned mouth and has violated the constitution more times than I can count.
Sallow
The Big Bad Wolf.
Feel free to point out which clauses he violated..as I did with Reagan.
Go ahead.
Point out the "lies" too.
Sallow
The Big Bad Wolf.
Like the law..ignorance of history is no excuse.
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Advise and consent clause. His lies are too numerous and have been pointed out too many times. How's that posting legislation on CSPAN working out for you? I wonder what they're doing with Gitmo now that it's closed. Oops.
daveman
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Your outrage would ring less hollow if you also aimed it at Obama for lying and violating the Constitution.
daveman
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Kwitcher whinin'. And while you're at it, kwitcher lyin'. I posted facts. You should have said you wanted me to post something you agreed with instead. That you disagree with them does not make them nonfactual.
Grow up, kid.
Sallow
The Big Bad Wolf.
Advice and consent? You can't be serious..
When? On what?
I asked for exact references and clauses.
You've given me nothing.
Sallow
The Big Bad Wolf.
georgephillip
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**** the WORKERS!
"This First Great Republican Tax increase was folded into a reduction in tax rates across the board – above all on the highest tax brackets.
"This has been ongoing since 1981.
"The 1981 tax 'reform' also gave an accelerated depreciation allowance to absentee property owners, permitting them to pretend that their real estate was losing value even as it was soaring in market price.
"The effect of this 'fictitious property accounting' was to free the real estate industry as a whole from having to pay income tax. (The loophole was not available to homeowners!)
"The rental income thus 'freed' was available to be paid to banks as interest.
Flat Tax for the Rich
"This First Great Republican Tax increase was folded into a reduction in tax rates across the board – above all on the highest tax brackets.
"This has been ongoing since 1981.
"The 1981 tax 'reform' also gave an accelerated depreciation allowance to absentee property owners, permitting them to pretend that their real estate was losing value even as it was soaring in market price.
"The effect of this 'fictitious property accounting' was to free the real estate industry as a whole from having to pay income tax. (The loophole was not available to homeowners!)
"The rental income thus 'freed' was available to be paid to banks as interest.
Flat Tax for the Rich
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Yeah.... He did that with honest books too!!!
Obama should definitely try that sometime.
Post Obama's numbers for November 2010.
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Obama Numbers:
1. Unemployment rate: 9.6% (The U.S. Department of Labor Home Page)
2. Annual GDP 2.5% (U.S. GDP revised higher to 2.5% in third quarter Economic Report - MarketWatch)
3. Interest rate: These actually vary from 0.16% - 4.21% depending on length (U.S. Treasury - Daily Treasury Yield Curve)
4. Inflation: 1.1722% (USA Inflation Rate)
5. non-farm payrolls: + 151,000 (Nonfarm payrolls up 151,000; jobless rate steady - MarketWatch)
6. Obama's approval rating - 46% (Presidential Approval Ratings -- Barack Obama)
its interesting to see that Obama has better numbers across the board compared to Reagan. But this will somehow be criticized by the right as a failure.
you are welcome to disagree with Obama's policies, but you can't disagree with the fact that he has been much more effective on the economy than Reagan in the same amount of time. You also have to look at the fact that we live in a global economy with emerging powers such as China and India claiming a larger slice for themselves.
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NYcarbineer
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Yeah.... He did that with honest books too!!!
Obama should definitely try that sometime.
Post Obama's numbers for November 2010.
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Obama Numbers:
1. Unemployment rate: 9.6% (The U.S. Department of Labor Home Page)
2. Annual GDP 2.5% (U.S. GDP revised higher to 2.5% in third quarter Economic Report - MarketWatch)
3. Interest rate: These actually vary from 0.16% - 4.21% depending on length (U.S. Treasury - Daily Treasury Yield Curve)
4. Inflation: 1.1722% (USA Inflation Rate)
5. non-farm payrolls: + 151,000 (Nonfarm payrolls up 151,000; jobless rate steady - MarketWatch)
6. Obama's approval rating - 46% (Presidential Approval Ratings -- Barack Obama)
its interesting to see that Obama has better numbers across the board compared to Reagan. But this will somehow be criticized by the right as a failure.
you are welcome to disagree with Obama's policies, but you can't disagree with the fact that he has been much more effective on the economy than Reagan in the same amount of time. You also have to look at the fact that we live in a global economy with emerging powers such as China and India claiming a larger slice for themselves.
Thanks.
Here's a all in one site for data:
United States GDP Growth Rate
Yes, imagine if Obama had Reagan's numbers, then the anti-Obamists would really have something to work with.
NYcarbineer
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The whole picture, Reagan 11/82 vs. Obama 11/10, has now been posted. Some laughably obscure and irrelevant microbe of propaganda was posted by you.
I think the reasonable here can discern the qualitative difference.
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i listed multiple sites so i wouldnt be tagged with the simple "thanks for posting a liberal website" bs
georgephillip
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Were the numbers for unemployment and inflation calculated in the same way during Reagan's reign as they are today?Yeah.... He did that with honest books too!!!
Obama should definitely try that sometime.
Post Obama's numbers for November 2010.
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Obama Numbers:
1. Unemployment rate: 9.6% (The U.S. Department of Labor Home Page)
2. Annual GDP 2.5% (U.S. GDP revised higher to 2.5% in third quarter Economic Report - MarketWatch)
3. Interest rate: These actually vary from 0.16% - 4.21% depending on length (U.S. Treasury - Daily Treasury Yield Curve)
4. Inflation: 1.1722% (USA Inflation Rate)
5. non-farm payrolls: + 151,000 (Nonfarm payrolls up 151,000; jobless rate steady - MarketWatch)
6. Obama's approval rating - 46% (Presidential Approval Ratings -- Barack Obama)
its interesting to see that Obama has better numbers across the board compared to Reagan. But this will somehow be criticized by the right as a failure.
you are welcome to disagree with Obama's policies, but you can't disagree with the fact that he has been much more effective on the economy than Reagan in the same amount of time. You also have to look at the fact that we live in a global economy with emerging powers such as China and India claiming a larger slice for themselves.
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Yeah.... He did that with honest books too!!!
Obama should definitely try that sometime.
Post Obama's numbers for November 2010.
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Obama Numbers:
1. Unemployment rate: 9.6% (The U.S. Department of Labor Home Page)
2. Annual GDP 2.5% (U.S. GDP revised higher to 2.5% in third quarter Economic Report - MarketWatch)
3. Interest rate: These actually vary from 0.16% - 4.21% depending on length (U.S. Treasury - Daily Treasury Yield Curve)
4. Inflation: 1.1722% (USA Inflation Rate)
5. non-farm payrolls: + 151,000 (Nonfarm payrolls up 151,000; jobless rate steady - MarketWatch)
6. Obama's approval rating - 46% (Presidential Approval Ratings -- Barack Obama)
its interesting to see that Obama has better numbers across the board compared to Reagan. But this will somehow be criticized by the right as a failure.
you are welcome to disagree with Obama's policies, but you can't disagree with the fact that he has been much more effective on the economy than Reagan in the same amount of time. You also have to look at the fact that we live in a global economy with emerging powers such as China and India claiming a larger slice for themselves.
You're kidding, right?
Reagan inherited an economy with double digit inflation, double digit interest rates,and high unemployment. By the end of his term all those numbers came down. GDP also grew tremendously during his term
Obama inherited an economy with no inflation, zero interest rates and low unemployment. And he has not improved those numbers any and GDP is stagnant.
It would have helped had you been around during Reagan's presidency.
NYcarbineer
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Well, number one, don't let 'them' frame the debate on you. The wingnut tactic is to basically discredit all sources that might potentially produce bad news for conservatives, which nicely unlevels the playing field to what they think is their advantage. Secondly, I think the site I posted is more or less a compiler and the specific data is sourced in the graphs or whatever.
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