Reagan Said It Best

Well, let's look at what was going on in Reagan's presidency, at this point, November 1982:

1. Unemployment rate: 10.8% whoa!

2. Annual GDP -1.4% OMG!

3. Interest rate: 9.5% JAYzus!!!

4. Inflation: 4.6% Gulp!

5. non-farm payrolls: -124,000 holy moly!!!

6. Reagan's approval rating - 41% ****!!!!


No wonder daveman didn't dare post the facts.
 
"There is no Left Anti-Americanism." So says someone from the Left anyway. lol! Leftist Anti-Americanism is what you and this current President were raised on. "GOD DAMN AMERICA" is all this President knows. He couldn't change even if he wanted to. Too many years of that loony propaganda for him to make a change. Reagan supported the idea of American Exceptionalism. It is virtually impossible for a Leftist to embrace this philosophy. If America is always "BAAAAAAD",they certainly can't be exceptional. Just a big difference in philosophies.

Yeah..

Let's look at this "God damn America" thing. Reverend Wright like so many other black people in this country have been treated like crap..and for a very very long time. This is a man who did everything right..from college to serving in the military..and STILL was treated like someone who was less then an American Citizen with all the rights and priviledge that comes with that. There is no way that anyone not black can know how that feels. And the right seems to think it never really happened. And in some people..that rage never went away. Is it justified? I see the right wing raging about just about everything..

Is America Bad? Absolutely not. But it also isn't the fairytale John Wayne land you guys make it out to be. America has done some pretty horrendous things. From slavery to genocide..it's all there. And to deny it..is doubly wrong. Because you run the risk of repeating it..and looking like liars.

I hear ya on Wright to some extent. His hate & bitterness can be excused a bit. He does have some legitimate beefs. But i still feel his "Church" was no better than a KKK Hate Rally held every Sunday. He was hardly a 'Man of God.' This President used very poor judgment in being a part of that for 20 yrs. It just falls in line with his Saul Alinsky Marxist-training. Anti-Americanism is a huge part of that indoctrination. So is America Bad? I agree,absolutely not. It's just too bad you Leftists don't say that enough. This President was indoctrinated on far Left Anti-Americanism. It's just too late for him to change now. It's actually very sad.

Unfortunately that type of preaching is very common, more so than you would think. I've seen it here in NYC with some of the Interdenominational Events. The hate for the Right, from the pulpit, can be like gasoline to an open fire. That's partly why so few were shocked by Wright, on the Left anyway.
 
Well, let's look at what was going on in Reagan's presidency, at this point, November 1982:

1. Unemployment rate: 10.8% whoa!

2. Annual GDP -1.4% OMG!

3. Interest rate: 9.5% JAYzus!!!

4. Inflation: 4.6% Gulp!

5. non-farm payrolls: -124,000 holy moly!!!

6. Reagan's approval rating - 41% ****!!!!


No wonder daveman didn't dare post the facts.
Do you have a pathological need to lie?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/143542-reagan-said-it-best-8.html#post3024465
 
Well, let's look at what was going on in Reagan's presidency, at this point, November 1982:

1. Unemployment rate: 10.8% whoa!

2. Annual GDP -1.4% OMG!

3. Interest rate: 9.5% JAYzus!!!

4. Inflation: 4.6% Gulp!

5. non-farm payrolls: -124,000 holy moly!!!

6. Reagan's approval rating - 41% ****!!!!


No wonder daveman didn't dare post the facts.

Yeah.... He did that with honest books too!!! :eek: :lol:

Obama should definitely try that sometime. ;)
 
Reagan was a terrible President who was a disaster at Foreign Policy, Economic Policy, and Social Policy. He may not be the worst President ever but he is likely in the top three of Worst Presidents of the 20th Century.

1.) War on Drugs ramped up to new levels:

2.) His silence and lack response to AIDS for more than six years. Even to the point of not allowing Surgeon General Koop to speak out about AIDS.

This would be like if today, Obama told his Surgeon General to not tell the American People about a disease that could affect anyone and without treatment will kill them.

3.) Iran-Contra

4.) Recognition and essentially support of the Apartheid Government in South Africa.

5.) Providing intelligence and weapons to both the Iraqi and Iranian Government during the Iran-Iraq war.

6.) His support of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan which would eventually result in the rise of Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban. Support included weapons, funding, and CIA training.

7.) Foreign policy of the Ronald Reagan administration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The World Court would find that this constituted state sponsorship of terrorism and an attempt to overthrow an elected government. Nicaragua decided to take their case to the World Court in Nicaragua v. United States. In an unprecedented decision in the history of world justice, the World Court sanctioned the U.S. for "unlawful use of force" for "sponsoring paramilitary activity in and against Nicaragua", ordering the U.S. government to pay billions of U.S. dollars in compensation. The World Court ordered Reagan to terminate his campaign, but the Reagan White House dismissed the ruling and then vetoed two Security Council resolutions affirming the Court ruling and calling on all nations to observe international law

8.)
This pattern of funding right-wing military and paramilitary groups would continue in Guatemala. In 1999 a report on the Guatemalan Civil War from the UN-sponsored Commission for Historical Clarification stated that “the American training of the officer corps in counter-insurgency techniques” was a “key factor” in the “genocide…Entire Mayan villages were attacked and burned and their inhabitants were slaughtered in an effort to deny the guerillas protection.” According to the commission, between 1981 and 1983 the Guatemalan government—financed and trained by the US—destroyed four hundred Mayan villages and butchered 200,000 peasants (1).

9.)
In Panama this funding was more covert. Manuel Noriega, the dictator of Panama, was on the payroll of the CIA as of 1967. By 1971 his involvement in the drug trade was well known by the DEA but he was an important asset of the CIA and so was well-protected. CIA Director George H. W. Bush arranged to give Noriega a raise in 1976 to a six-figure salary. The Carter administration dropped the future dictator from its payroll but he was reinstated by the Reagan administration and his salary peaked in 1985 at $200,000 (2). Noriega allowed CIA listening stations in his country, provided funding for the Contras, and protected covert U.S. and U.S.-funded air shipments of supplies to the Contras(3).

10.)
Reagan offered controversial support to the rightist El Salvador government throughout his term; he feared a takeover by the FMLN during the El Salvador Civil War which had begun in the late 1970s. The war left 75,000 people dead, 8,000 missing and one million homeless; some one million Salvadorans, fleeing the war and government backed right-wing death squads, immigrated to the United States. He backed attempts at introducing democratic elections with mixed success.

The list goes on really.
 
Reagan was a terrible President who was a disaster at Foreign Policy, Economic Policy, and Social Policy. He may not be the worst President ever but he is likely in the top three of Worst Presidents of the 20th Century.

1.) War on Drugs ramped up to new levels:

2.) His silence and lack response to AIDS for more than six years. Even to the point of not allowing Surgeon General Koop to speak out about AIDS.

This would be like if today, Obama told his Surgeon General to not tell the American People about a disease that could affect anyone and without treatment will kill them.

3.) Iran-Contra

4.) Recognition and essentially support of the Apartheid Government in South Africa.

5.) Providing intelligence and weapons to both the Iraqi and Iranian Government during the Iran-Iraq war.

6.) His support of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan which would eventually result in the rise of Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban. Support included weapons, funding, and CIA training.

7.) Foreign policy of the Ronald Reagan administration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The World Court would find that this constituted state sponsorship of terrorism and an attempt to overthrow an elected government. Nicaragua decided to take their case to the World Court in Nicaragua v. United States. In an unprecedented decision in the history of world justice, the World Court sanctioned the U.S. for "unlawful use of force" for "sponsoring paramilitary activity in and against Nicaragua", ordering the U.S. government to pay billions of U.S. dollars in compensation. The World Court ordered Reagan to terminate his campaign, but the Reagan White House dismissed the ruling and then vetoed two Security Council resolutions affirming the Court ruling and calling on all nations to observe international law

8.)
This pattern of funding right-wing military and paramilitary groups would continue in Guatemala. In 1999 a report on the Guatemalan Civil War from the UN-sponsored Commission for Historical Clarification stated that “the American training of the officer corps in counter-insurgency techniques” was a “key factor” in the “genocide…Entire Mayan villages were attacked and burned and their inhabitants were slaughtered in an effort to deny the guerillas protection.” According to the commission, between 1981 and 1983 the Guatemalan government—financed and trained by the US—destroyed four hundred Mayan villages and butchered 200,000 peasants (1).

9.)
In Panama this funding was more covert. Manuel Noriega, the dictator of Panama, was on the payroll of the CIA as of 1967. By 1971 his involvement in the drug trade was well known by the DEA but he was an important asset of the CIA and so was well-protected. CIA Director George H. W. Bush arranged to give Noriega a raise in 1976 to a six-figure salary. The Carter administration dropped the future dictator from its payroll but he was reinstated by the Reagan administration and his salary peaked in 1985 at $200,000 (2). Noriega allowed CIA listening stations in his country, provided funding for the Contras, and protected covert U.S. and U.S.-funded air shipments of supplies to the Contras(3).

10.)
Reagan offered controversial support to the rightist El Salvador government throughout his term; he feared a takeover by the FMLN during the El Salvador Civil War which had begun in the late 1970s. The war left 75,000 people dead, 8,000 missing and one million homeless; some one million Salvadorans, fleeing the war and government backed right-wing death squads, immigrated to the United States. He backed attempts at introducing democratic elections with mixed success.

The list goes on really.

You prove your abject stupidity and ignorance every ******* day on this site.
For starters, the thread has nothing to do with Reagan.
 
You prove your abject stupidity and ignorance every ******* day on this site.
For starters, the thread has nothing to do with Reagan.

Except, y'know, the thread title is Reagan said it best. Your propping up of Reagan deserved a response that shows the continued worship of Reagan on the right is not only unwarranted but makes absolutely no sense on any level.
 
You prove your abject stupidity and ignorance every ******* day on this site.
For starters, the thread has nothing to do with Reagan.

Except, y'know, the thread title is Reagan said it best. Your propping up of Reagan deserved a response that shows the continued worship of Reagan on the right is not only unwarranted but makes absolutely no sense on any level.
Ahhhhhhhhhhh, you're just pissed that your beloved Messiah is an abject failure on so many levels.

One thing you'll never hear from a repub is "Obama Republican"

But, what you damn sure hear from many dem's (the ones who aren't actually fools) is "Reagan Democrat".

Face it, he's one of the all time greats.......Just deal with it!.......Wallowing in your "Obama failure syndrome" only makes you look like a bitter fool.......Hopefully, next time you won't fall for an empty suit with nothing more than empty, sappy, campaign slogans aimed at the dumbest of the dumb.
 
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Reagan said it best..."Liberals/Democrats Suck!!" He was right then and he's even more right now. BAM!
 
...and eventually to the breakup of the Soviet Union.

What's your point? I gave the credit to Reagan for that..

I don't revise shit or make stuff up..when it comes to history.
No, you just repeat others' revisions.

Naw..

And again with feeling..

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R67CH-qhXJs[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5YOQEZtNE0&feature=related[/ame]


You fuckers approve of this behavior.

This is YOUR messiah.

He LIED. He VIOLATED the CONSTITUTION.
 
Face it, he's one of the all time greats.......Just deal with it!......

So you defend those ten things I just listed above? I could care less about people not liking Obama. Especially those on the internet.
 
And here it is..

Corporatists..

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTcL6Xc_eMM[/ame]

Speed it up!
 
LMAO!

You lib's are just too damn funny.......Just can't deal with Reagan's greatness.....Just can't deal with the fact that he brought this country back from economic disaster......Was a major player in winning the cold war.....Strengthened this great country's resolve......Turned our great country back into a superpower......And on and on and on.

Christ, we need a Reagan now more than ever........Enough of this inept, candyassed Obama clown and his equally inept, candyassed administration.
 
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LMAO!

You lib's are just to damn funny.......Just can't deal with Reagan's greatness.....Just can't deal with the fact that he brought this country back from economic disaster......Was a major player in winning the cold war.....Strengthened this great country's resolve......Turned our great country back into a superpower......And on and on and on.

Christ, we need a Reagan now more than ever........Enough of this inept, candyassed Obama clown and his equally inept, candyassed administration.

So are you going to just keep repeating your false talking points or are you going to address what I said? We can have a serious discussion like adults like I want to do or you can continue to play the "Nah Nah Nah" my guy is better game you seem bent on continuing.
 
LMAO!

You lib's are just to damn funny.......Just can't deal with Reagan's greatness.....Just can't deal with the fact that he brought this country back from economic disaster......Was a major player in winning the cold war.....Strengthened this great country's resolve......Turned our great country back into a superpower......And on and on and on.

Christ, we need a Reagan now more than ever........Enough of this inept, candyassed Obama clown and his equally inept, candyassed administration.

So are you going to just keep repeating your false talking points or are you going to address what I said? We can have a serious discussion like adults like I want to do or you can continue to play the "Nah Nah Nah" my guy is better game you seem bent on continuing.
I don't deal in your tired, worn out liberal, Reagan hating talking points.........Just face it...there are many "Reagan Democrats" for a reason.......He's one of the greats!
 
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I don't deal in your tired, worn out liberal, Reagan hating talking points.........Just face it...there are many "Reagan Democrats" for a reason.......He's one of the greats!

Ah yes, because his silence on AIDS for six years is a "tired, worn out Liberal, Reagan hating talking point."

Ah yes, because his NeoConservative Foreign Policy and his attitude towards anyone but white straight Christian males is a "tired, worn out Liberal, Reagan hating talking point."

Why don't you go tell the people who were butchered by the people that the CIA trained and that Reagan supported that they need to stop making "tired, worn out liberal, Reagan hating talking points." Perhaps you can get the job faster considering the number of them buried in mass graves.
 
I don't deal in your tired, worn out liberal, Reagan hating talking points.........Just face it...there are many "Reagan Democrats" for a reason.......He's one of the greats!

Ah yes, because his silence on AIDS for six years is a "tired, worn out Liberal, Reagan hating talking point."

Ah yes, because his NeoConservative Foreign Policy and his attitude towards anyone but white males is a "tired, worn out Liberal, Reagan hating talking point."

Why don't you go tell the people who were butchered by the people that the CIA trained and that Reagan supported that they need to stop making "tired, worn out liberal, Reagan hating talking points." Perhaps you can get the job faster considering the number of them buried in mass graves.
Exactly!.......Same old tired, worn out liberal, Ragan hating talking points.

Seriously bert, you already embarrassed yourself months ago in another Reagan thread....To the point where you actually had to run away from it after making a fool of yourself.
 
Exactly!.......Same old tired, worn out liberal, Ragan hating talking points.

Seriously bert, you already embarrassed yourself months ago in another Reagan thread....To the point where you actually had to run away from it after making a fool of yourself.

Perhaps you can refresh my memory there Wicked Jester. All I'm seeing from you at the moment is partisan hackery and childish attacks instead of trying to have a constructive conversation about the past actions of a POTUS. You seem to have concluded it is better to stick your fingers in your ears and yell very loudly "Reagan is great! Reagan is great!"
 
Well, let's look at what was going on in Reagan's presidency, at this point, November 1982:

1. Unemployment rate: 10.8% whoa!

2. Annual GDP -1.4% OMG!

3. Interest rate: 9.5% JAYzus!!!

4. Inflation: 4.6% Gulp!

5. non-farm payrolls: -124,000 holy moly!!!

6. Reagan's approval rating - 41% ****!!!!


No wonder daveman didn't dare post the facts.
Do you have a pathological need to lie?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/143542-reagan-said-it-best-8.html#post3024465

I didn't lie because nothing you referred me to was a relevant factual representation of where Reagan was in NOVEMBER of 1982.

But you do win a neg rep for falsely accusing me of lying, the ONLY time I give reps of any kind.
 
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