Reagan Said It Best

[The Rabbi]

It was philosophically good for this country, a pay-as-you-go approach that eventually produced a surplus that could have paid down some debt and served as a cushion for any economic downturn in the future.

Bush and the Republicans promptly destroyed it.

As I recall revenues plummeted after the Clinton recession kicked in and Democrats in Congress continued to spend.

The 'Clinton' recession was in 2001 and the Democrats were not in power in Congress.

It actually started when Clinton was still in office but not recognized until after.
The recovery started when Bush was in office but not recognized until later either. And of course Obama's policies have made it the weakest recovery on record.

 

[NYcarbineer]

As I recall revenues plummeted after the Clinton recession kicked in and Democrats in Congress continued to spend.

The 'Clinton' recession was in 2001 and the Democrats were not in power in Congress.

It actually started when Clinton was still in office but not recognized until after.
The recovery started when Bush was in office but not recognized until later either. And of course Obama's policies have made it the weakest recovery on record.

Wrong on both counts. You have 3 factually wrong claims in 2 posts. Why would you do that?

1. The Democrats were not in power in 2001

2. The annual GDP growth rate in Jan 2001 was 2.2%, that would be the last month Clinton was in office.

3. The annual GDP growth rate as of Jan 2009 was -6.8%, so no, no way the recovery had started while Bush was still in office.

 

[The Rabbi]

The 'Clinton' recession was in 2001 and the Democrats were not in power in Congress.

It actually started when Clinton was still in office but not recognized until after.
The recovery started when Bush was in office but not recognized until later either. And of course Obama's policies have made it the weakest recovery on record.

Wrong on both counts. You have 3 factually wrong claims in 2 posts. Why would you do that?

1. The Democrats were not in power in 2001

2. The annual GDP growth rate in Jan 2001 was 2.2%, that would be the last month Clinton was in office.

3. The annual GDP growth rate as of Jan 2009 was -6.8%, so no, no way the recovery had started while Bush was still in office.

As usual you are completely wrong,both in fact and theory.
Go read some books about this and come back when you know something.

 

[uscitizen]

It actually started when Clinton was still in office but not recognized until after.
The recovery started when Bush was in office but not recognized until later either. And of course Obama's policies have made it the weakest recovery on record.

Wrong on both counts. You have 3 factually wrong claims in 2 posts. Why would you do that?

1. The Democrats were not in power in 2001

2. The annual GDP growth rate in Jan 2001 was 2.2%, that would be the last month Clinton was in office.

3. The annual GDP growth rate as of Jan 2009 was -6.8%, so no, no way the recovery had started while Bush was still in office.

As usual you are completely wrong,both in fact and theory.
Go read some books about this and come back when you know something.

Do you mean Bush's book?

 

[LibocalypseNow]

How can you be in favor of American Exceptionalism if you're a radical Anti-American Leftist? The two cannot co-exist. This current President is a Saul Alinsky Marxist-trained "Community Organizer" for God's sake. Kooky Left Anti-Americanism is all he knows. He has experienced nothing but "GOD DAMN AMERICA" propaganda his whole life. I'm never surprised when his kooky Left Anti-Americanism slips out. It's what he is. I told people this before he was elected. But it was all about that stupid "Hope & Change" Bull Shit. Hopefully more people are waking up though. We'll see i guess.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It actually started when Clinton was still in office but not recognized until after.
The recovery started when Bush was in office but not recognized until later either. And of course Obama's policies have made it the weakest recovery on record.

Wrong on both counts. You have 3 factually wrong claims in 2 posts. Why would you do that?

1. The Democrats were not in power in 2001

2. The annual GDP growth rate in Jan 2001 was 2.2%, that would be the last month Clinton was in office.

3. The annual GDP growth rate as of Jan 2009 was -6.8%, so no, no way the recovery had started while Bush was still in office.

As usual you are completely wrong,both in fact and theory.
Go read some books about this and come back when you know something.

Prove it. Start by proving that the Democrats controlled Congress in 2001.

And, while you're at it, stop being a ****.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Wrong on both counts. You have 3 factually wrong claims in 2 posts. Why would you do that?

1. The Democrats were not in power in 2001

2. The annual GDP growth rate in Jan 2001 was 2.2%, that would be the last month Clinton was in office.

3. The annual GDP growth rate as of Jan 2009 was -6.8%, so no, no way the recovery had started while Bush was still in office.

As usual you are completely wrong,both in fact and theory.
Go read some books about this and come back when you know something.

Do you mean Bush's book?

The Rabbi has turned into teapartysamurai, without the charm.

 

[DaGoose]

As I recall revenues plummeted after the Clinton recession kicked in and Democrats in Congress continued to spend.

The 'Clinton' recession was in 2001 and the Democrats were not in power in Congress.

It actually started when Clinton was still in office but not recognized until after.
The recovery started when Bush was in office but not recognized until later either. And of course Obama's policies have made it the weakest recovery on record.

While we're tossing around fake recognition dates I think today's recession is a result of Ike's policies.

And while you're at it, I would like you to show how the Dems were in power in 2001.

 

[Sallow]

How can you be in favor of American Exceptionalism if you're a radical Anti-American Leftist? The two cannot co-exist. This current President is a Saul Alinsky Marxist-trained "Community Organizer" for God's sake. Kooky Left Anti-Americanism is all he knows. He has experienced nothing but "GOD DAMN AMERICA" propaganda his whole life. I'm never surprised when his kooky Left Anti-Americanism slips out. It's what he is. I told people this before he was elected. But it was all about that stupid "Hope & Change" Bull Shit. Hopefully more people are waking up though. We'll see i guess.

This is complete and unmitigated bullshit. President Obama is no "Marxist"..heck he isn't even a leftist. What he is..is "Center-"slightly" Left". He's exposed himself to many different schools of thought...that part is correct. And that's the smart thing to do. Understanding different approaches, even ones you don't agree with, is key to effective governance. And as far as President Obama goes, all of his solutions, to some very daunting problems have been "market based" warmed over Republican ideas. Nothing President Obama has done is "radical leftist" or even remotely "marxist".

What we did have prior to President Obama was a radical, batshit crazy right wing administration. That was not normal. And the right wing has moved into Bircher (Dare I say beyond that) terrority. The idea that we should turn over our government to corporations, who are unelected..and for the most part..greedy..is an Abomination. And that's exactly what the Bush administration following the Norquist/Friedman model..was trying to do.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

How can you be in favor of American Exceptionalism if you're a radical Anti-American Leftist? The two cannot co-exist. This current President is a Saul Alinsky Marxist-trained "Community Organizer" for God's sake. Kooky Left Anti-Americanism is all he knows. He has experienced nothing but "GOD DAMN AMERICA" propaganda his whole life. I'm never surprised when his kooky Left Anti-Americanism slips out. It's what he is. I told people this before he was elected. But it was all about that stupid "Hope & Change" Bull Shit. Hopefully more people are waking up though. We'll see i guess.

This is complete and unmitigated bullshit. President Obama is no "Marxist"..heck he isn't even a leftist. What he is..is "Center-"slightly" Left". He's exposed himself to many different schools of thought...that part is correct. And that's the smart thing to do. Understanding different approaches, even ones you don't agree with, is key to effective governance. And as far as President Obama goes, all of his solutions, to some very daunting problems have been "market based" warmed over Republican ideas. Nothing President Obama has done is "radical leftist" or even remotely "marxist".

What we did have prior to President Obama was a radical, batshit crazy right wing administration. That was not normal. And the right wing has moved into Bircher (Dare I say beyond that) terrority. The idea that we should turn over our government to corporations, who are unelected..and for the most part..greedy..is an Abomination. And that's exactly what the Bush administration following the Norquist/Friedman model..was trying to do.

The post was about Reagan and American Exceptionalism as opposed to this President's loony Left Anti-Americanism. Not about DA BOOOOOOOOOSH. lol!

 

[Sallow]

How can you be in favor of American Exceptionalism if you're a radical Anti-American Leftist? The two cannot co-exist. This current President is a Saul Alinsky Marxist-trained "Community Organizer" for God's sake. Kooky Left Anti-Americanism is all he knows. He has experienced nothing but "GOD DAMN AMERICA" propaganda his whole life. I'm never surprised when his kooky Left Anti-Americanism slips out. It's what he is. I told people this before he was elected. But it was all about that stupid "Hope & Change" Bull Shit. Hopefully more people are waking up though. We'll see i guess.

This is complete and unmitigated bullshit. President Obama is no "Marxist"..heck he isn't even a leftist. What he is..is "Center-"slightly" Left". He's exposed himself to many different schools of thought...that part is correct. And that's the smart thing to do. Understanding different approaches, even ones you don't agree with, is key to effective governance. And as far as President Obama goes, all of his solutions, to some very daunting problems have been "market based" warmed over Republican ideas. Nothing President Obama has done is "radical leftist" or even remotely "marxist".

What we did have prior to President Obama was a radical, batshit crazy right wing administration. That was not normal. And the right wing has moved into Bircher (Dare I say beyond that) terrority. The idea that we should turn over our government to corporations, who are unelected..and for the most part..greedy..is an Abomination. And that's exactly what the Bush administration following the Norquist/Friedman model..was trying to do.

The post was about Reagan and American Exceptionalism as opposed to this President's loony Left Anti-Americanism. Not about DA BOOOOOOOOOSH. lol!

There is no Left Anti-Americanism..

What there is..is resistance to the right's attempt to tear apart the United States Constitution.

I pointed out in this very thread where Reagan grossly violated the Constitution and the more right wing posters were like..duh..never happened. I had to find a VIDEO of Reagan APOLOGIZING for violating the Constitution..which none of you guys even bothered to comment on.

And it's been getting worse. Bush was the next step in the move to Plutocratic Corporatism the right seems to want.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

This is complete and unmitigated bullshit. President Obama is no "Marxist"..heck he isn't even a leftist. What he is..is "Center-"slightly" Left". He's exposed himself to many different schools of thought...that part is correct. And that's the smart thing to do. Understanding different approaches, even ones you don't agree with, is key to effective governance. And as far as President Obama goes, all of his solutions, to some very daunting problems have been "market based" warmed over Republican ideas. Nothing President Obama has done is "radical leftist" or even remotely "marxist".

What we did have prior to President Obama was a radical, batshit crazy right wing administration. That was not normal. And the right wing has moved into Bircher (Dare I say beyond that) terrority. The idea that we should turn over our government to corporations, who are unelected..and for the most part..greedy..is an Abomination. And that's exactly what the Bush administration following the Norquist/Friedman model..was trying to do.

The post was about Reagan and American Exceptionalism as opposed to this President's loony Left Anti-Americanism. Not about DA BOOOOOOOOOSH. lol!

There is no Left Anti-Americanism..

What there is..is resistance to the right's attempt to tear apart the United States Constitution.

I pointed out in this very thread where Reagan grossly violated the Constitution and the more right wing posters were like..duh..never happened. I had to find a VIDEO of Reagan APOLOGIZING for violating the Constitution..which none of you guys even bothered to comment on.

And it's been getting worse. Bush was the next step in the move to Plutocratic Corporatism the right seems to want.

"There is no Left Anti-Americanism." So says someone from the Left anyway. lol! Leftist Anti-Americanism is what you and this current President were raised on. "GOD DAMN AMERICA" is all this President knows. He couldn't change even if he wanted to. Too many years of that loony propaganda for him to make a change. Reagan supported the idea of American Exceptionalism. It is virtually impossible for a Leftist to embrace this philosophy. If America is always "BAAAAAAD",they certainly can't be exceptional. Just a big difference in philosophies.

 

[G.T.]

skum bag

 

[Sallow]

The post was about Reagan and American Exceptionalism as opposed to this President's loony Left Anti-Americanism. Not about DA BOOOOOOOOOSH. lol!

There is no Left Anti-Americanism..

What there is..is resistance to the right's attempt to tear apart the United States Constitution.

I pointed out in this very thread where Reagan grossly violated the Constitution and the more right wing posters were like..duh..never happened. I had to find a VIDEO of Reagan APOLOGIZING for violating the Constitution..which none of you guys even bothered to comment on.

And it's been getting worse. Bush was the next step in the move to Plutocratic Corporatism the right seems to want.

"There is no Left Anti-Americanism." So says someone from the Left anyway. lol! Leftist Anti-Americanism is what you and this current President were raised on. "GOD DAMN AMERICA" is all this President knows. He couldn't change even if he wanted to. Too many years of that loony propaganda for him to make a change. Reagan supported the idea of American Exceptionalism. It is virtually impossible for a Leftist to embrace this philosophy. If America is always "BAAAAAAD",they certainly can't be exceptional. Just a big difference in philosophies.

Yeah..

Let's look at this "God damn America" thing. Reverend Wright like so many other black people in this country have been treated like crap..and for a very very long time. This is a man who did everything right..from college to serving in the military..and STILL was treated like someone who was less then an American Citizen with all the rights and priviledge that comes with that. There is no way that anyone not black can know how that feels. And the right seems to think it never really happened. And in some people..that rage never went away. Is it justified? I see the right wing raging about just about everything..

Is America Bad? Absolutely not. But it also isn't the fairytale John Wayne land you guys make it out to be. America has done some pretty horrendous things. From slavery to genocide..it's all there. And to deny it..is doubly wrong. Because you run the risk of repeating it..and looking like liars.

 

[Wicked Jester]

There is no Left Anti-Americanism..

What there is..is resistance to the right's attempt to tear apart the United States Constitution.

I pointed out in this very thread where Reagan grossly violated the Constitution and the more right wing posters were like..duh..never happened. I had to find a VIDEO of Reagan APOLOGIZING for violating the Constitution..which none of you guys even bothered to comment on.

And it's been getting worse. Bush was the next step in the move to Plutocratic Corporatism the right seems to want.

"There is no Left Anti-Americanism." So says someone from the Left anyway. lol! Leftist Anti-Americanism is what you and this current President were raised on. "GOD DAMN AMERICA" is all this President knows. He couldn't change even if he wanted to. Too many years of that loony propaganda for him to make a change. Reagan supported the idea of American Exceptionalism. It is virtually impossible for a Leftist to embrace this philosophy. If America is always "BAAAAAAD",they certainly can't be exceptional. Just a big difference in philosophies.

Yeah..

Let's look at this "God damn America" thing. Reverend Wright like so many other black people in this country have been treated like crap..and for a very very long time. This is a man who did everything right..from college to serving in the military..and STILL was treated like someone who was less then an American Citizen with all the rights and priviledge that comes with that. There is no way that anyone not black can know how that feels. And the right seems to think it never really happened. And in some people..that rage never went away. Is it justified? I see the right wing raging about just about everything..

Is America Bad? Absolutely not. But it also isn't the fairytale John Wayne land you guys make it out to be. America has done some pretty horrendous things. From slavery to genocide..it's all there. And to deny it..is doubly wrong. Because you run the risk of repeating it..and looking like liars.

Genocide?...........What the **** you are you talking about, Jethro?

Listening to these left wing idiots is just too damn funny.

 

[Wicked Jester]

skum bag

Don't be too hard on yourself........I would say you fit the douchebag label......But if Scum bag works for ya', oh well!

 

[LibocalypseNow]

There is no Left Anti-Americanism..

What there is..is resistance to the right's attempt to tear apart the United States Constitution.

I pointed out in this very thread where Reagan grossly violated the Constitution and the more right wing posters were like..duh..never happened. I had to find a VIDEO of Reagan APOLOGIZING for violating the Constitution..which none of you guys even bothered to comment on.

And it's been getting worse. Bush was the next step in the move to Plutocratic Corporatism the right seems to want.

"There is no Left Anti-Americanism." So says someone from the Left anyway. lol! Leftist Anti-Americanism is what you and this current President were raised on. "GOD DAMN AMERICA" is all this President knows. He couldn't change even if he wanted to. Too many years of that loony propaganda for him to make a change. Reagan supported the idea of American Exceptionalism. It is virtually impossible for a Leftist to embrace this philosophy. If America is always "BAAAAAAD",they certainly can't be exceptional. Just a big difference in philosophies.

Yeah..

Let's look at this "God damn America" thing. Reverend Wright like so many other black people in this country have been treated like crap..and for a very very long time. This is a man who did everything right..from college to serving in the military..and STILL was treated like someone who was less then an American Citizen with all the rights and priviledge that comes with that. There is no way that anyone not black can know how that feels. And the right seems to think it never really happened. And in some people..that rage never went away. Is it justified? I see the right wing raging about just about everything..

Is America Bad? Absolutely not. But it also isn't the fairytale John Wayne land you guys make it out to be. America has done some pretty horrendous things. From slavery to genocide..it's all there. And to deny it..is doubly wrong. Because you run the risk of repeating it..and looking like liars.

I hear ya on Wright to some extent. His hate & bitterness can be excused a bit. He does have some legitimate beefs. But i still feel his "Church" was no better than a KKK Hate Rally held every Sunday. He was hardly a 'Man of God.' This President used very poor judgment in being a part of that for 20 yrs. It just falls in line with his Saul Alinsky Marxist-training. Anti-Americanism is a huge part of that indoctrination. So is America Bad? I agree,absolutely not. It's just too bad you Leftists don't say that enough. This President was indoctrinated on far Left Anti-Americanism. It's just too late for him to change now. It's actually very sad.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Also,much of the Left's Anti-Americanism stems from their zealous support for Globalism/Internationalism. They have to tear America down a bit in order to advance their Globalist/Internationalist agenda. In other words,they have to knock America down a peg so they can make things equal. Don't discount Globalism/Internationalism as a big reason the Left pushes Anti-Americanism. It's a key tool for their agenda.

 

[daveman]

There is no Left Anti-Americanism..

And that is, of course, bullshit.

J O S H U A P U N D I T: The real and uncensored `war protestors'

You can pretend these aren't Anti-American leftists...but you'd be wrong.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Not all Leftists are Anti-American but all Anti-American douchebags are Leftists. This is just fact.