Reagan Said It Best

[bodecea]

Post Obama's numbers for November 2010.

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Obama Numbers:


1. Unemployment rate: 9.6% (The U.S. Department of Labor Home Page)

2. Annual GDP 2.5% (U.S. GDP revised higher to 2.5% in third quarter Economic Report - MarketWatch)

3. Interest rate: These actually vary from 0.16% - 4.21% depending on length (U.S. Treasury - Daily Treasury Yield Curve)

4. Inflation: 1.1722% (USA Inflation Rate)

5. non-farm payrolls: + 151,000 (Nonfarm payrolls up 151,000; jobless rate steady - MarketWatch)

6. Obama's approval rating - 46% (Presidential Approval Ratings -- Barack Obama)

its interesting to see that Obama has better numbers across the board compared to Reagan. But this will somehow be criticized by the right as a failure.

you are welcome to disagree with Obama's policies, but you can't disagree with the fact that he has been much more effective on the economy than Reagan in the same amount of time. You also have to look at the fact that we live in a global economy with emerging powers such as China and India claiming a larger slice for themselves.

You're kidding, right?
Reagan inherited an economy with double digit inflation, double digit interest rates,and high unemployment. By the end of his term all those numbers came down. GDP also grew tremendously during his term
Obama inherited an economy with no inflation, zero interest rates and low unemployment. And he has not improved those numbers any and GDP is stagnant.
It would have helped had you been around during Reagan's presidency.

If what you say is true, how long did it take for Reagan to turn things around from Carter's economic problems? 2 years? 4 years? 6 years? 8 years?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Post Obama's numbers for November 2010.

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Obama Numbers:


1. Unemployment rate: 9.6% (The U.S. Department of Labor Home Page)

2. Annual GDP 2.5% (U.S. GDP revised higher to 2.5% in third quarter Economic Report - MarketWatch)

3. Interest rate: These actually vary from 0.16% - 4.21% depending on length (U.S. Treasury - Daily Treasury Yield Curve)

4. Inflation: 1.1722% (USA Inflation Rate)

5. non-farm payrolls: + 151,000 (Nonfarm payrolls up 151,000; jobless rate steady - MarketWatch)

6. Obama's approval rating - 46% (Presidential Approval Ratings -- Barack Obama)

its interesting to see that Obama has better numbers across the board compared to Reagan. But this will somehow be criticized by the right as a failure.

you are welcome to disagree with Obama's policies, but you can't disagree with the fact that he has been much more effective on the economy than Reagan in the same amount of time. You also have to look at the fact that we live in a global economy with emerging powers such as China and India claiming a larger slice for themselves.

You're kidding, right?
Reagan inherited an economy with double digit inflation, double digit interest rates,and high unemployment. By the end of his term all those numbers came down. GDP also grew tremendously during his term
Obama inherited an economy with no inflation, zero interest rates and low unemployment. And he has not improved those numbers any and GDP is stagnant.
It would have helped had you been around during Reagan's presidency.

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Setting aside you trying to use the 'inherited' defense for Reagan 2 years into his presidency, you are factually full of shit:

Here's the unemployment rate Reagan 'inherited' in Jan. 81, and where it was by Nov. 82

 

[Full-Auto]

Post Obama's numbers for November 2010.

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Obama Numbers:


1. Unemployment rate: 9.6% (The U.S. Department of Labor Home Page)

2. Annual GDP 2.5% (U.S. GDP revised higher to 2.5% in third quarter Economic Report - MarketWatch)

3. Interest rate: These actually vary from 0.16% - 4.21% depending on length (U.S. Treasury - Daily Treasury Yield Curve)

4. Inflation: 1.1722% (USA Inflation Rate)

5. non-farm payrolls: + 151,000 (Nonfarm payrolls up 151,000; jobless rate steady - MarketWatch)

6. Obama's approval rating - 46% (Presidential Approval Ratings -- Barack Obama)

its interesting to see that Obama has better numbers across the board compared to Reagan. But this will somehow be criticized by the right as a failure.

you are welcome to disagree with Obama's policies, but you can't disagree with the fact that he has been much more effective on the economy than Reagan in the same amount of time. You also have to look at the fact that we live in a global economy with emerging powers such as China and India claiming a larger slice for themselves.

Thanks.

Here's a all in one site for data:

United States GDP Growth Rate

Yes, imagine if Obama had Reagan's numbers, then the anti-Obamists would really have something to work with.

I would prefer a growth rate that didnt have the artifical flavoring of stimulus.

 

[DaGoose]

Thanks.

Here's a all in one site for data:

United States GDP Growth Rate

Yes, imagine if Obama had Reagan's numbers, then the anti-Obamists would really have something to work with.

i listed multiple sites so i wouldnt be tagged with the simple "thanks for posting a liberal website" bs

Well, number one, don't let 'them' frame the debate on you. The wingnut tactic is to basically discredit all sources that might potentially produce bad news for conservatives, which nicely unlevels the playing field to what they think is their advantage. Secondly, I think the site I posted is more or less a compiler and the specific data is sourced in the graphs or whatever.

.

 

[Full-Auto]

i listed multiple sites so i wouldnt be tagged with the simple "thanks for posting a liberal website" bs

Well, number one, don't let 'them' frame the debate on you. The wingnut tactic is to basically discredit all sources that might potentially produce bad news for conservatives, which nicely unlevels the playing field to what they think is their advantage. Secondly, I think the site I posted is more or less a compiler and the specific data is sourced in the graphs or whatever.

.

Cute picture. But no mention of democrats lying to the president about the spending cuts.

 

[Sallow]

Post Obama's numbers for November 2010.

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Obama Numbers:


1. Unemployment rate: 9.6% (The U.S. Department of Labor Home Page)

2. Annual GDP 2.5% (U.S. GDP revised higher to 2.5% in third quarter Economic Report - MarketWatch)

3. Interest rate: These actually vary from 0.16% - 4.21% depending on length (U.S. Treasury - Daily Treasury Yield Curve)

4. Inflation: 1.1722% (USA Inflation Rate)

5. non-farm payrolls: + 151,000 (Nonfarm payrolls up 151,000; jobless rate steady - MarketWatch)

6. Obama's approval rating - 46% (Presidential Approval Ratings -- Barack Obama)

its interesting to see that Obama has better numbers across the board compared to Reagan. But this will somehow be criticized by the right as a failure.

you are welcome to disagree with Obama's policies, but you can't disagree with the fact that he has been much more effective on the economy than Reagan in the same amount of time. You also have to look at the fact that we live in a global economy with emerging powers such as China and India claiming a larger slice for themselves.

You're kidding, right?
Reagan inherited an economy with double digit inflation, double digit interest rates,and high unemployment. By the end of his term all those numbers came down. GDP also grew tremendously during his term
Obama inherited an economy with no inflation, zero interest rates and low unemployment. And he has not improved those numbers any and GDP is stagnant.
It would have helped had you been around during Reagan's presidency.

You got that wrong. Carter inherited double digit inflation from Nixon and Ford. They did such wonderous economic magic like national wage freezes and clever slogans that Carter had to hire a grown up like Paul Volcker to fix that mess. What Reagan inherited was the result of Paul Volcker's programs working. Then he proceeded to dismantle government. So much so..that we had financial meltdowns in the banking industry and the bond markets. Poppa Bush had to clean up Reagan's domestic messes. And did so by breaking his own election promise not to raise taxes.

 

[Common Sense]

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Obama Numbers:


1. Unemployment rate: 9.6% (The U.S. Department of Labor Home Page)

2. Annual GDP 2.5% (U.S. GDP revised higher to 2.5% in third quarter Economic Report - MarketWatch)

3. Interest rate: These actually vary from 0.16% - 4.21% depending on length (U.S. Treasury - Daily Treasury Yield Curve)

4. Inflation: 1.1722% (USA Inflation Rate)

5. non-farm payrolls: + 151,000 (Nonfarm payrolls up 151,000; jobless rate steady - MarketWatch)

6. Obama's approval rating - 46% (Presidential Approval Ratings -- Barack Obama)

its interesting to see that Obama has better numbers across the board compared to Reagan. But this will somehow be criticized by the right as a failure.

you are welcome to disagree with Obama's policies, but you can't disagree with the fact that he has been much more effective on the economy than Reagan in the same amount of time. You also have to look at the fact that we live in a global economy with emerging powers such as China and India claiming a larger slice for themselves.

Thanks.

Here's a all in one site for data:

United States GDP Growth Rate

Yes, imagine if Obama had Reagan's numbers, then the anti-Obamists would really have something to work with.

I would prefer a growth rate that didnt have the artifical flavoring of stimulus.

thats actually understandable. like i said, whether agree with how he did it or not isnt the issue here. everyone can agree that Reagan and Obama both inherited bad economic problems. We can compare the first 2 years of each of their presidencies and how the numbers looked. Solely looking at the numbers, Obama's are higher across the board. Now, were the 2 economic conditions exactly the same, no, was the political and social climates of the world the same, no. but all this talk about the "Great Ronald Reagan" is what I am trying to dispel. there were positive things he did accomplish like any president. but simply saying that Obama has done nothing for the economy or for the people is bullshit. you can disagree all you want with his policies, but the numbers do not lie. Since he took office, he has had an overall positive effect on the economy. I fail to see how you can dispute the numbers.

 

[daveman]

Your outrage would ring less hollow if you also aimed it at Obama for lying and violating the Constitution.

Then I will put you up to the challenge.

When..and on what?

Looking for specifics.

His lies.

Flaherty: Obama's Actions on Auto Bailout Are Unconstitutional | National Legal and Policy Center

Congress.org - Letter to Rep. Jim Matheson (D-Utah): News Story (Unconstitutional Actions taken by Obama and Napalitano.

Oh No! Obama?s Bank Tax Is Unconstitutional!

Obama Administration Defends Torture Memo Author John Yoo

Obama Signs Patriot Act Extension: MSM and the Left Silent - Big Government

FYI, "Nuh-UH!!" is not a valid refutation.

 

[daveman]

I didn't lie because nothing you referred me to was a relevant factual representation of where Reagan was in NOVEMBER of 1982.

But you do win a neg rep for falsely accusing me of lying, the ONLY time I give reps of any kind.

Kwitcher whinin'. And while you're at it, kwitcher lyin'. I posted facts. You should have said you wanted me to post something you agreed with instead. That you disagree with them does not make them nonfactual.

Grow up, kid.

The whole picture, Reagan 11/82 vs. Obama 11/10, has now been posted. Some laughably obscure and irrelevant microbe of propaganda was posted by you.

I think the reasonable here can discern the qualitative difference.

I repeat: That you disagree with them does not make them nonfactual.

 

[Sallow]

Your outrage would ring less hollow if you also aimed it at Obama for lying and violating the Constitution.

Then I will put you up to the challenge.

When..and on what?

Looking for specifics.

His lies.

Flaherty: Obama's Actions on Auto Bailout Are Unconstitutional | National Legal and Policy Center

Congress.org - Letter to Rep. Jim Matheson (D-Utah): News Story (Unconstitutional Actions taken by Obama and Napalitano.

Oh No! Obama?s Bank Tax Is Unconstitutional!

Obama Administration Defends Torture Memo Author John Yoo

Obama Signs Patriot Act Extension: MSM and the Left Silent - Big Government

FYI, "Nuh-UH!!" is not a valid refutation.

Yeah..basically "Nuh-uh". There's nothing in anyone of your links that is even remotely a "lie" or violation of the Constitution. And it's interesting you bring up the "Bill of Attainer" issue for a "bank tax" (that's a bit of Orwellian logic if I ever heard it) and rush head long to defend the Congressional actions with ACORN.

Interesting and hypocritical.

 

[The Rabbi]

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Obama Numbers:


1. Unemployment rate: 9.6% (The U.S. Department of Labor Home Page)

2. Annual GDP 2.5% (U.S. GDP revised higher to 2.5% in third quarter Economic Report - MarketWatch)

3. Interest rate: These actually vary from 0.16% - 4.21% depending on length (U.S. Treasury - Daily Treasury Yield Curve)

4. Inflation: 1.1722% (USA Inflation Rate)

5. non-farm payrolls: + 151,000 (Nonfarm payrolls up 151,000; jobless rate steady - MarketWatch)

6. Obama's approval rating - 46% (Presidential Approval Ratings -- Barack Obama)

its interesting to see that Obama has better numbers across the board compared to Reagan. But this will somehow be criticized by the right as a failure.

you are welcome to disagree with Obama's policies, but you can't disagree with the fact that he has been much more effective on the economy than Reagan in the same amount of time. You also have to look at the fact that we live in a global economy with emerging powers such as China and India claiming a larger slice for themselves.

You're kidding, right?
Reagan inherited an economy with double digit inflation, double digit interest rates,and high unemployment. By the end of his term all those numbers came down. GDP also grew tremendously during his term
Obama inherited an economy with no inflation, zero interest rates and low unemployment. And he has not improved those numbers any and GDP is stagnant.
It would have helped had you been around during Reagan's presidency.

You got that wrong. Carter inherited double digit inflation from Nixon and Ford. They did such wonderous economic magic like national wage freezes and clever slogans that Carter had to hire a grown up like Paul Volcker to fix that mess. What Reagan inherited was the result of Paul Volcker's programs working. Then he proceeded to dismantle government. So much so..that we had financial meltdowns in the banking industry and the bond markets. Poppa Bush had to clean up Reagan's domestic messes. And did so by breaking his own election promise not to raise taxes.

You must have to repeat that 10 times a day to believe it.
Inflation Jan 1977:5.22%
Inflation Jan 1981: 11.83%

Facts are not your friends here. It would help if you had actually been alive during that time. But alas you get your talking points from leftist sources and lack teh intellectual underpinnings to examine them.

 

[Sallow]

You're kidding, right?
Reagan inherited an economy with double digit inflation, double digit interest rates,and high unemployment. By the end of his term all those numbers came down. GDP also grew tremendously during his term
Obama inherited an economy with no inflation, zero interest rates and low unemployment. And he has not improved those numbers any and GDP is stagnant.
It would have helped had you been around during Reagan's presidency.

You got that wrong. Carter inherited double digit inflation from Nixon and Ford. They did such wonderous economic magic like national wage freezes and clever slogans that Carter had to hire a grown up like Paul Volcker to fix that mess. What Reagan inherited was the result of Paul Volcker's programs working. Then he proceeded to dismantle government. So much so..that we had financial meltdowns in the banking industry and the bond markets. Poppa Bush had to clean up Reagan's domestic messes. And did so by breaking his own election promise not to raise taxes.

You must have to repeat that 10 times a day to believe it.
Inflation Jan 1977:5.22%
Inflation Jan 1981: 11.83%

Facts are not your friends here. It would help if you had actually been alive during that time. But alas you get your talking points from leftist sources and lack teh intellectual underpinnings to examine them.

I was born in 1961. I was living at the time. My facts are accurate to the t..

Reagan was a wrecking ball, domestically.

 

[Common Sense]

Your outrage would ring less hollow if you also aimed it at Obama for lying and violating the Constitution.

Then I will put you up to the challenge.

When..and on what?

Looking for specifics.

His lies.

Flaherty: Obama's Actions on Auto Bailout Are Unconstitutional | National Legal and Policy Center

Congress.org - Letter to Rep. Jim Matheson (D-Utah): News Story (Unconstitutional Actions taken by Obama and Napalitano.

Oh No! Obama?s Bank Tax Is Unconstitutional!

Obama Administration Defends Torture Memo Author John Yoo

Obama Signs Patriot Act Extension: MSM and the Left Silent - Big Government

FYI, "Nuh-UH!!" is not a valid refutation.

Obamalies.net - extremely reliable website.... (but the again, im pretty sure we could go back and look at every president and see where he has had to change course due changes in the political, economic and social environment)

Flaherty: Obama's Actions on Auto Bailout Are Unconstitutional - well not exactly, Cerberus did get a few concessions for giving up its stake.

In 2007, Cerberus and about 100 other investors purchased an 80% stake in Chrysler for $7.4 billion, promising to bolster the auto maker’s performance by operating as an independent company. In 2008, the plan collapsed due to an unprecedented slowdown in the U.S. auto industry and a lack of capital.[6] In response to questioning at a hearing before the House committee on December 5, 2008 by Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite, Chrysler President and CEO Robert Nardelli said that Cerberus' fiduciary obligations to its other investors and investments prohibited it from injecting capital.
On March 30, 2009, it was announced that Cerberus Capital Management will lose its equity stake and ownership in Chrysler as a condition of the Treasury Department’s bailout deal, but Cerberus will maintain a controlling stake in Chrysler’s financing arm, Chrysler Financial. Cerberus will utilize the first $2 billion in proceeds from its Chrysler Financial holding to backstop a $4 billion December 2008 Treasury Department loan given to Chrysler. In exchange for obtaining that loan, it promised many concessions including surrendering equity, foregoing profits, and giving up board seats:
"In order to achieve that goal Cerberus has advised the Treasury that it would contribute its equity in Chrysler automotive to labor and creditors as currency to facilitate the accommodations necessary to affect [sic] the restructuring."[7]
Chrysler Financial refused to take $750 million in Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) government bailout aid because executives didn't want to abide by executive-pay limits, and because the firm doesn't necessarily need the money.[8]
On April 30, 2009, Chrysler declared bankruptcy protection and announced that GMAC will become the financing source for new wholesale and retail Chrysler cars.[9]
Chrysler Financial, once the exclusive lending arm of the storied automaker, will liquidate and go out of business by Dec. 31, 2011, according to a letter from the U.S. Treasury Department.


Congress.org - Letter to Rep. Jim Matheson (D-Utah) - it is debatable whether the enhanced screening techniques are constitutional or unconstitutional, and that is for the courts to decide. You can have your opinion on the matter, but being thoroughly searched before boarding an airline is a small concession to have to pay to ensure that I make it to my destination safely. You can always choose not to fly if you disagree with the procedure, or choose to fly privately. there is nothing stopping you from making this choice.

Oh No! Obama?s Bank Tax Is Unconstitutional - this is actually a legal opinion and the case has not been decided. the latest information is from Jan 2010.


Obama Administration Defends Torture Memo Author John Yoo -

"The Obama administration, seeking to dismiss a lawsuit by a U.S. citizen convicted of terrorism who claims he was tortured, defended former government lawyer John Yoo whose advice justified harsh interrogations."

"John C. Yoo, a former Deputy Assistant Attorney General of the United States, was arrested on Tuesday in Milan, Italy, and is being held for possible extradition to Spain, where he and five other retired officials who served under former President George W. Bush are expected to be indicted by a Spanish court for violations of the Geneva Conventions, the Convention Against Torture, and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court."

so Yoo, a US Citizen and a lawyer, who was convicted of terrorism is crying foul that has was now tortured? legal ploy or truth? we will have to wait to find out.


Obama Signs Patriot Act Extension -

a one year extension for 3 provisions not exactly an exact renewal.

• Authorize court-approved roving wiretaps that permit surveillance on multiple phones.

• Allow court-approved seizure of records and property in anti-terrorism operations.

• Permit surveillance against a so-called lone wolf, a non-U.S. citizen engaged in terrorism who may not be part of a recognized terrorist group.

Obama signs extension of Patriot Act - USATODAY.com

by the way, none of this has actually been determined to violate the Constitution yet.

 

[daveman]

Then I will put you up to the challenge.

When..and on what?

Looking for specifics.

His lies.

Flaherty: Obama's Actions on Auto Bailout Are Unconstitutional | National Legal and Policy Center

Congress.org - Letter to Rep. Jim Matheson (D-Utah): News Story (Unconstitutional Actions taken by Obama and Napalitano.

Oh No! Obama?s Bank Tax Is Unconstitutional!

Obama Administration Defends Torture Memo Author John Yoo

Obama Signs Patriot Act Extension: MSM and the Left Silent - Big Government

FYI, "Nuh-UH!!" is not a valid refutation.

Yeah..basically "Nuh-uh". There's nothing in anyone of your links that is even remotely a "lie" or violation of the Constitution. And it's interesting you bring up the "Bill of Attainer" issue for a "bank tax" (that's a bit of Orwellian logic if I ever heard it) and rush head long to defend the Congressional actions with ACORN.

Interesting and hypocritical.

You're so predictable. One day, perhaps, you'll grow up and realize that your petulant refusal to admit facts does not make them non-factual.

But I doubt it.

 

[Sallow]

His lies.

Flaherty: Obama's Actions on Auto Bailout Are Unconstitutional | National Legal and Policy Center

Congress.org - Letter to Rep. Jim Matheson (D-Utah): News Story (Unconstitutional Actions taken by Obama and Napalitano.

Oh No! Obama?s Bank Tax Is Unconstitutional!

Obama Administration Defends Torture Memo Author John Yoo

Obama Signs Patriot Act Extension: MSM and the Left Silent - Big Government

FYI, "Nuh-UH!!" is not a valid refutation.

Yeah..basically "Nuh-uh". There's nothing in anyone of your links that is even remotely a "lie" or violation of the Constitution. And it's interesting you bring up the "Bill of Attainer" issue for a "bank tax" (that's a bit of Orwellian logic if I ever heard it) and rush head long to defend the Congressional actions with ACORN.

Interesting and hypocritical.

You're so predictable. One day, perhaps, you'll grow up and realize that your petulant refusal to admit facts does not make them non-factual.

But I doubt it.

Petulant refusal of facts?

Chief, one of the sites you posted is under the title "Obamalies"..and lists among the "lies" blatant slips of the tongue.

The other site is Briebart. Briebart stated goal is the downfall of the Obama administration. He doesn't even bother to vet anything he puts up..the only criteria for his site is that the story is anti-Obama.

The other stuff is ridiculous..and I've shown you why..

There are no facts here..it's smoke and mirrors.

No matter how much you stamp your feet..and whine about it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Kwitcher whinin'. And while you're at it, kwitcher lyin'. I posted facts. You should have said you wanted me to post something you agreed with instead. That you disagree with them does not make them nonfactual.

Grow up, kid.

The whole picture, Reagan 11/82 vs. Obama 11/10, has now been posted. Some laughably obscure and irrelevant microbe of propaganda was posted by you.

I think the reasonable here can discern the qualitative difference.

I repeat: That you disagree with them does not make them nonfactual.

The facts are posted. Please point out which one is not factual. Specifically.

You have

1. unemployment rate
2. interest rates
3. non-farm payrolls
4. approval rating
5. GDP

Show that most of those favored Reagan as opposed to what has been posted, i.e., that all of them favor Obama,

then, you can say we were wrong. Until then, you're just trolling.

 

[The Rabbi]

Yeah..basically "Nuh-uh". There's nothing in anyone of your links that is even remotely a "lie" or violation of the Constitution. And it's interesting you bring up the "Bill of Attainer" issue for a "bank tax" (that's a bit of Orwellian logic if I ever heard it) and rush head long to defend the Congressional actions with ACORN.

Interesting and hypocritical.

You're so predictable. One day, perhaps, you'll grow up and realize that your petulant refusal to admit facts does not make them non-factual.

But I doubt it.

Petulant refusal of facts?

Chief, one of the sites you posted is under the title "Obamalies"..and lists among the "lies" blatant slips of the tongue.

The other site is Briebart. Briebart stated goal is the downfall of the Obama administration. He doesn't even bother to vet anything he puts up..the only criteria for his site is that the story is anti-Obama.

The other stuff is ridiculous..and I've shown you why..

There are no facts here..it's smoke and mirrors.

No matter how much you stamp your feet..and whine about it.

If the sites were so off base it would be easy to refute what they say. But you cannot because for whatever rhetorical exaggeration there is, much of it is true.
I realize that is inconvenient to your argument and possibly threatens your manhood. But there you have it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

----------------
Obama Numbers:


1. Unemployment rate: 9.6% (The U.S. Department of Labor Home Page)

2. Annual GDP 2.5% (U.S. GDP revised higher to 2.5% in third quarter Economic Report - MarketWatch)

3. Interest rate: These actually vary from 0.16% - 4.21% depending on length (U.S. Treasury - Daily Treasury Yield Curve)

4. Inflation: 1.1722% (USA Inflation Rate)

5. non-farm payrolls: + 151,000 (Nonfarm payrolls up 151,000; jobless rate steady - MarketWatch)

6. Obama's approval rating - 46% (Presidential Approval Ratings -- Barack Obama)

its interesting to see that Obama has better numbers across the board compared to Reagan. But this will somehow be criticized by the right as a failure.

you are welcome to disagree with Obama's policies, but you can't disagree with the fact that he has been much more effective on the economy than Reagan in the same amount of time. You also have to look at the fact that we live in a global economy with emerging powers such as China and India claiming a larger slice for themselves.

Thanks.

Here's a all in one site for data:

United States GDP Growth Rate

Yes, imagine if Obama had Reagan's numbers, then the anti-Obamists would really have something to work with.

I would prefer a growth rate that didnt have the artifical flavoring of stimulus.

Okay, setting aside your admission that the stimulus worked, would you like to argue that Reagan did NOT employ economic stimulus in his first 2 years?

...careful...

lol

 

[The Rabbi]

You got that wrong. Carter inherited double digit inflation from Nixon and Ford. They did such wonderous economic magic like national wage freezes and clever slogans that Carter had to hire a grown up like Paul Volcker to fix that mess. What Reagan inherited was the result of Paul Volcker's programs working. Then he proceeded to dismantle government. So much so..that we had financial meltdowns in the banking industry and the bond markets. Poppa Bush had to clean up Reagan's domestic messes. And did so by breaking his own election promise not to raise taxes.

You must have to repeat that 10 times a day to believe it.
Inflation Jan 1977:5.22%
Inflation Jan 1981: 11.83%

Facts are not your friends here. It would help if you had actually been alive during that time. But alas you get your talking points from leftist sources and lack teh intellectual underpinnings to examine them.

I was born in 1961. I was living at the time. My facts are accurate to the t..

Reagan was a wrecking ball, domestically.

Then you were dead from the neck up during that time.
Your statement abotu Reagan is dead wrong.

 

[DaGoose]

I don't understand how daveman can fault Obama on the bailout when it was...

1) Such a huge success

and

2) His hero Reagan (you know, the liar with all the scandals) did the same thing with the Chrysler bailout.

The bailout has been a rousing success, and that's the business press talking.

Thanks to the government intervention, General Motors is out of bankruptcy and again turning profits. Chrysler is stabilized. Last April, GM paid back its loan in full and with interest years ahead of schedule.

Yet many tea party/Republican politicians persist in portraying this story as one of government overreach forced on good Americans by Washington socialists. They totally forget the economic mayhem that was gripping the country. Or perhaps they simply welcome any opportunity to bash unions.

The $86-billion bailout was a gamble, all right, but it was a bet that America won. And it was won not through dumb luck but the administration's skilled management of the bankruptcy. And the good news keeps coming. At the last count, the bailout's actual cost to taxpayers has fallen to $17 billion, according to the Detroit News.

What Was Wrong With the Auto Bailout? Nothing by Froma Harrop on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent

And the bailout was started by BUSH....

http://consumerist.com/2008/12/bush-approves-auto-industry-bailout.html