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30 Senate Democrats have called for Al Franken's resignation. Nancy Pelosi did the same re: John Conyers. Indeed, after having learned, care of Bill Clinton, the lessons of not standing up for high ethical/moral character, Dems seem disinclined to make the same mistake again.
Over the past several weeks, I've asked every woman with whom I have sufficient rapport for doing so whether they have at some point been the object of unwanted sexual advances that went too far. That's about twenty women and not one of them said "no." If that's any indication, Dems are right to disregard political pragmatism in favor of character.
Some will note that Franken and Conyers admitted to their transgressions whereas Trump and Moore have not. They make that claim as part of an explicit or implied assertion that the women's allegations are politically motivated. That assertion is preposterous. It is because there are some 150M women in the U.S. and plenty of them despise Trump and a host of other Republicans, and plenty of them despise myriad male Democratic elected office holders, yet only a "microscopically" small quantity of those women have levied accusations against any elected office holders. Consequently, to accept the political motivation line, one'd have to also accept that out of literally tens of millions of women, only, what, a hundred or so at most, are so politically incensed that they'd levy false claims and all the other women who assert that they've been sexually harassed (or worse) aren't politically motivated. Then there too is the matter that the women who've accused Moore are Republicans.
This thread isn't about whether Democrat or Republican individuals are of better character. It's about the observed credibility of the Democratic and Republican parties, respectively, when it comes to (1) respecting women, (2) placing ethics and character above politics, and not tolerating in positions of formal political power accused sexual predators.
Over the past several weeks, I've asked every woman with whom I have sufficient rapport for doing so whether they have at some point been the object of unwanted sexual advances that went too far. That's about twenty women and not one of them said "no." If that's any indication, Dems are right to disregard political pragmatism in favor of character.
Some will note that Franken and Conyers admitted to their transgressions whereas Trump and Moore have not. They make that claim as part of an explicit or implied assertion that the women's allegations are politically motivated. That assertion is preposterous. It is because there are some 150M women in the U.S. and plenty of them despise Trump and a host of other Republicans, and plenty of them despise myriad male Democratic elected office holders, yet only a "microscopically" small quantity of those women have levied accusations against any elected office holders. Consequently, to accept the political motivation line, one'd have to also accept that out of literally tens of millions of women, only, what, a hundred or so at most, are so politically incensed that they'd levy false claims and all the other women who assert that they've been sexually harassed (or worse) aren't politically motivated. Then there too is the matter that the women who've accused Moore are Republicans.
This thread isn't about whether Democrat or Republican individuals are of better character. It's about the observed credibility of the Democratic and Republican parties, respectively, when it comes to (1) respecting women, (2) placing ethics and character above politics, and not tolerating in positions of formal political power accused sexual predators.
