Rand Paul doubles down on big, beautiful bill criticism after Trump slam

[kyzr]

The debt isn't such a big problem. If it was it wouldn't exist.

The $36T DEBT is a BIG PROBLEM, its called a "bond rating" and the potential collapse of the US dollar.

 

[YoursTruly]

The $36T DEBT is a BIG PROBLEM, its called a "bond rating" and the potential collapse of the US dollar.

As of 2 seconds ago, $36.9 trillion.

Holy F'ing smokes. It was a very short time ago, it was just turning $36 trillion.

"The US national debt officially reached $36 trillion on November 22, 2024"

Looks like they're adding $2 trillion per year now. That's insane.

 

[kyzr]

And you can't spend your way out of debt.

Or "grow" your way out of debt. You need to cut spending and actually pay down the debt.

It's not a "hard line stance." It's a common sense stance. It's a "what Trump promised" stance. It's a "keep the USD from crashing" stance.

Exactly.

Rand isn't radical. He's simply where republicans are supposed to be. Trump and his RINO's have move left of center. Rand is still standing where FC's have always been.

Don't forget the "Freedom Caucus". They went along with the BBB this time to get it passed, but the next budget will be a war. The Senate may even trigger the budget war for this BBB. Rand objects to raising the Debt Ceiling $4T. Raise it $1T and Rand is on board with the BBB.

 

[initforme]

Does anyone know why we would not want a state to be allowed to pass laws regulations artificial intelligence? Its in the bill supposedly.

 

[kyzr]

As of 2 seconds ago, $36.9 trillion.
Holy F'ing smokes. It was a very short time ago, it was just turning $36 trillion.
"The US national debt officially reached $36 trillion on November 22, 2024"
Looks like they're adding $2 trillion per year now. That's insane.

The fast rise of DEBT has a lot to do with the interest cost of borrowing that $37T.
Interest went from $500b to $1.1T in 4-years. A budget buster and dollar killer.

Federal government current expenditures: Interest payments

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[citygator]

Rand is “core GOP” meaning he is only into performance art. Dude hasn’t done shit in his life but if he derails this monstrosity of a bill he will have 1 thing to his name.

 

[YoursTruly]

Rand is “core GOP” meaning he is only into performance art. Dude hasn’t done shit in his life but if he derails this monstrosity of a bill he will have 1 thing to his name.

Rand is one of the very few fiscal conservatives in a party that's tried to outlaw fiscal conservatism. He can't accomplish anything. Seriously, there's only about 5 FC's in the senate. How TF are 5 senators going to get anything passed 95 RINO's and democrats?

 

[kyzr]

Rand is “core GOP” meaning he is only into performance art. Dude hasn’t done shit in his life but if he derails this monstrosity of a bill he will have 1 thing to his name.

Rand Paul is an eye surgeon dumbass.

Rand Paul Performs Free Eye Surgery For Uninsured Patients

Paul performed pro-bono cataract surgeries Paducah, Ky., on Tuesday.

abcnews.go.com

 

[leftwinger]

And you can't spend your way out of debt.




It's not a "hard line stance." It's a common sense stance. It's a "what Trump promised" stance. It's a "keep the USD from crashing" stance.

Rand isn't radical. He's simply where republicans are supposed to be. Trump and his RINO's have move left of center. Rand is still standing where FC's have always been.


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Right. Ten (twenty-five?) years of Rand & Lankford Pork & Waste book annually. But it only increases, never stopped. Yet they like to show it after they approve it? They never do anything.

Why didnt he jump in the Speaker chair instead of Boner LyinRyin or Lll’dickyJohnson. Do something for a change besides Chirping.

 

[citygator]

Rand is one of the very few fiscal conservatives in a party that's tried to outlaw fiscal conservatism. He can't accomplish anything. Seriously, there's only about 5 FC's in the senate. How TF are 5 senators going to get anything passed 95 RINO's and democrats?

Only takes 4.

 

[leftwinger]

Rand is one of the very few fiscal conservatives in a party that's tried to outlaw fiscal conservatism. He can't accomplish anything. Seriously, there's only about 5 FC's in the senate. How TF are 5 senators going to get anything passed 95 RINO's and democrats?

The system is broken. This is what Trump has to work with. 12 years of Obiden and Election fraud have it where the Deep State wants it.

Tell us, what should Trump do that he isn’t doing? Or trying to do?

 

[Mac-7]

Raising taxes on corporations and the wealthy is the ONLY way out of this rat's maze of debt.
Ever since Dutch started fucking around with the tax rates in the early 80's but still spending like a drunken sailor, it's been a downhill slide.

Raise taxes. Take the cap off Social Security max contributions. Then we can talk about cutting spending...but that opens up a whole other can of omnibus worms.

The key is “spending like a drunken sailor”

A nation has to spend, aka consume” only as much as it produces

Including the US

 

[leftwinger]

The fast rise of DEBT has a lot to do with the interest cost of borrowing that $37T.
Interest went from $500b to $1.1T in 4-years. A budget buster and dollar killer.

Federal government current expenditures: Interest payments

Graph and download economic data for Federal government current expenditures: Interest payments (A091RC1Q027SBEA) from Q1 1947 to Q1 2025 about payments, expenditures, federal, government, interest, GDP, and USA.

fred.stlouisfed.org

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That’s what they (deep state) want. Much of debt thru self-inflicted wounds. All were preventable, intentional crisis. 5 or six big ones from housing bust to riots to man-made disease launch.

Until they we realize they cause all the problems? Admit there is a problem is the 1st step to fixing it.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

The key is “spending like a drunken sailor”

A nation has to spend, aka consume” only as much as it produces

Including the US

There are 5 main budget items that take up the bulk of dollars spent. None of them can be solved..without raising taxes. Everything else that people bark about cutting......is peanuts. Low hanging fruit. DOGE boners for the weak minded.

 

[leftwinger]

The key is “spending like a drunken sailor”

A nation has to spend, aka consume” only as much as it produces

Including the US

It's easier for them to steal 10% when there are thousands of pet BS handouts and they share back to you.

 

[kyzr]

That’s what they (deep state) want. Much of debt thru self-inflicted wounds. All were preventable, intentional crisis. 5 or six big ones from housing bust to riots to man-made disease launch.
Until they we realize they cause all the problems? Admit there is a problem is the 1st step to fixing it.

It took decades to get here on the precipice of the collapse of the dollar, so all I want to hear are ways to fix the fucking mess. Ruthlessly cut spending, ruthlessly raise revenue, start paying down the debt to get us away from the precipice.

 

[Mac-7]

There are 5 main budget items that take up the bulk of dollars spent. None of them can be solved..without raising taxes. Everything else that people bark about cutting......is peanuts. Low hanging fruit. DOGE boners for the weak minded.

Name the five budget items

 

[leftwinger]

There are 5 main budget items that take up the bulk of dollars spent. None of them can be solved..without raising taxes. Everything else that people bark about cutting......is peanuts. Low hanging fruit. DOGE boners for the weak minded.

BS you bag of crap. SS was not short of money, they were giving away to 10 million bogus SS#s’ as found by DOGE. Not the SS head do-nothing lady who walked off on pension,

DOGE found it. Want to go into $100B dept of ED wasted? Just SHUP you lackluster problem maker. Congress is the root of all problems, media and your types #2 & #3.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Name the five budget items

Social Security, Medicare, Interest on the debt, Defense, and Medicaid.

Again...taxes being raised...are the only way out of this mess.
But raised on the right group of payers.

 

[Rambunctious]

And you can't spend your way out of debt.

True you have to grow your way out as you make cuts in waste and fraud... you don't slash and burn your way out when you are dealing with people's lives and health and safety... the one thing I do not like about Rand Paul is he thinks you must slash programs and let the chips fall... not the way to do it...
Trump sent 9 billion in proposed cuts.... to both the senate and the house this week... Lets see who stands in the way...