Rand Paul doubles down on big, beautiful bill criticism after Trump slam

YoursTruly said:
Raising the minimum wage is a symptom of the problem.
I support a small, limited government that lives within it's means. But because they don't live within their means, minimum wages have to increase, along with the other wages. To keep up with the constant increase of inflation that comes from spending beyond their means.

This is easy stuff here. Why is there any disagreement? Inflation is simply too much money in the economy. And this is the fault of the governments overspending.

Overspending causes inflation to go up. Then wages have to go up. Then prices have to go up. And just about the time things start leveling out and people & businesses get used to it, the government dumps trillions more into the economy and the cycle starts over again.
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Poor people dont overspend. That is the opposite of the issue.

We have been overspending for decades and guess what? Tame inflation - covid years the only exception. That is because of productivity. Inflation IS NOT AN ISSUE. The issue is the concentration of wealth to a very few people has rendered the middle class obsolete. There are no required pensions anymore there are no required living wages and no required profit sharing. The result is low wages, no future income stream, no savings, no sharing in the wealth. Union busting killed this country… not the deficit.
 
citygator said:
Poor people dont overspend. That is the opposite of the issue.
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We ain't talking about poor people. We're talking about the government.

Either try to keep up. Or stop looking for something you can make an argument out of.
I'm not playing this word game with you.
 
YoursTruly said:
We ain't talking about poor people. We're talking about the government.

Either try to keep up. Or stop looking for something you can make an argument out of.
I'm not playing this word game with you.
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Does the current proposed bill cut spending on an absolute basis? If so, what is the amount of cut revenues per CBO, vs. cut spending for Calender 25,26, and 27?
 
JackOfNoTrades said:
That's an entirely different can of worms.
Start at the beginning. Where this all went off the rails in the early 80's..when..by the way, a Republican sat in the White House. :)

Raising taxes...raises revenues...unless it's spent in other forms before the revenue is taken in.
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If you raise taxes

And then increase spending you are no better off

Maybe worse
 
wtb said:
Yeah, he's certainly not offering any alternatives in his recent interviews. While I don't disagree with his points about too much spending, they become just whining without any alternatives offered. He's really dodging when directly asked about his alternatives!
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^^^ NAILED IT 100% :eusa_clap:
 
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Cellblock2429 said:
/---/ As long as dumb insults are all democRATs have to campaign with, they will not win another national election for a decade.
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Really? Because insults seem to work well for Trump and his mindless sycophants...
 
BluesLegend said:
When the house of cards debt disaster falls ALL will be demanding to know what happened, like they were clueless.
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Trump just called for scrapping the debt limit

Trump's bill will increase the deficit $240Bn a year due to the tax cuts.
President Donald Trump’s “big, beautiful bill” would add $2.4 trillion to federal budget deficits over the next decade, the Congressional Budget Office estimated Wednesday.

The bill passed by House Republicans last month would decrease federal spending by $1.3 trillion, but also see a a $3.7 trillion drop in revenues, according to the CBO’s latest analysis.
 
Zincwarrior said:
Trump just called for scrapping the debt limit

Trump's bill will increase the deficit $240Bn a year due to the tax cuts.
President Donald Trump’s “big, beautiful bill” would add $2.4 trillion to federal budget deficits over the next decade, the Congressional Budget Office estimated Wednesday.

The bill passed by House Republicans last month would decrease federal spending by $1.3 trillion, but also see a a $3.7 trillion drop in revenues, according to the CBO’s latest analysis.
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Okay dumb ass, it's not a Trump problem you idiot. It's a cross the board, cross party, government problem local, state and federal. Go start a TDS thread if you can't control your impulses.
 
BluesLegend said:
Okay dumb ass, it's not a Trump problem you idiot. It's a cross the board, cross party, government problem local, state and federal. Go start a TDS thread if you can't control your impulses.
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horsecrap. Trump is extremely skilled in utterly controlling the MAGA party. If didn't want it, it wouldn't happen.
 
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