Raise Taxes or Cut Waste?

[Flopper]

We should not be funding wasteful unnecessary wars like that ass wipe Bush got us into ...what a waste of trillions eh conservatives ....way to go ....

Raise taxes on the rich, tax college savings, raise gasoline taxes, and cut social programs? Or, cut the enormous waste that we all know should be cut? Or, should we do a combination of both? If your answer is to cut waste, what are the most obvious areas of waste that you would cut? If your answer is to raise taxes, what taxes would you increase? Or, what new taxes would you add? If your answer is to raise taxes, where would you use the new revenue? If your answer is to cut waste, where would you use the savings?

Lower taxes on everyone, especially thr cih (progressive taxation is completely unfair, everyone should be taxed at the same rate ala a flat tax.)

Implement mandatory conservation, recycling, and more efficient versions of things. It's absurd we tax more rather than cutting back even if that means draconian laws 'encouraging' it. Can't build new power generating plants everytime existing supply can't meet the deamnd - you cut back usage and the demand. Otherwise it's like raising the debt ceiling every year instead of capping it and facing the music at long last.

I also believe in taxing everyone at the same rate. And, I believe that having a sales tax that covers all taxation is way better than what we have now.

I favor a progressive tax rate. Without progressive taxes, there would be an even greater and increasing share of the wealth concentrated in the hands of the wealthy.. As income increases, households have more and more income that is not spent on basic necessities and thus can afford to pay more tax in a way that is impossible for the poor. These are the standard arguments in support of progressive taxes.

To me what makes the taxes unfair is not the progressive rate it's all the credits, exemptions, and deductions. All of these were created to help special interest group or to encourage some type of taxpayer behavior. If we did what congress is encouraging us to do, we would have a dozen kids, a mortgage we couldn't afford, and huge medical bills.

We should readjust the rates keeping them progressive and eliminate, most of the exemptions, credits, and deduction. We wouldn't need tax accountants, a 100,000 IRS workers, and computer programs to figure our taxes. Our financial decisions would no longer be based on taxes but rather the financial aspects of transactions. Tax time every year for most people would amount to 30 mins doing a form about the size of 1040EZ.

 

[Sonny Clark]

We should not be funding wasteful unnecessary wars like that ass wipe Bush got us into ...what a waste of trillions eh conservatives ....way to go ....

Raise taxes on the rich, tax college savings, raise gasoline taxes, and cut social programs? Or, cut the enormous waste that we all know should be cut? Or, should we do a combination of both? If your answer is to cut waste, what are the most obvious areas of waste that you would cut? If your answer is to raise taxes, what taxes would you increase? Or, what new taxes would you add? If your answer is to raise taxes, where would you use the new revenue? If your answer is to cut waste, where would you use the savings?

Lower taxes on everyone, especially thr cih (progressive taxation is completely unfair, everyone should be taxed at the same rate ala a flat tax.)

Implement mandatory conservation, recycling, and more efficient versions of things. It's absurd we tax more rather than cutting back even if that means draconian laws 'encouraging' it. Can't build new power generating plants everytime existing supply can't meet the deamnd - you cut back usage and the demand. Otherwise it's like raising the debt ceiling every year instead of capping it and facing the music at long last.

I also believe in taxing everyone at the same rate. And, I believe that having a sales tax that covers all taxation is way better than what we have now.

I favor a progressive tax rate. Without progressive taxes, there would be an even greater and increasing share of the wealth concentrated in the hands of the wealthy.. As income increases, households have more and more income that is not spent on basic necessities and thus can afford to pay more tax in a way that is impossible for the poor. These are the standard arguments in support of progressive taxes.

To me what makes the taxes unfair is not the progressive rate it's all the credits, exemptions, and deductions. All of these were created to help special interest group or to encourage some type of taxpayer behavior. If we did what congress is encouraging us to do, we would have a dozen kids, a mortgage we couldn't afford, and huge medical bills.

We should readjust the rates keeping them progressive and eliminate, most of the exemptions, credits, and deduction. We wouldn't need tax accountants, a 100,000 IRS workers, and computer programs to figure our taxes. Our financial decisions would no longer be based on taxes but rather the financial aspects of transactions. Tax time every year for most people would amount to 30 mins doing a form about the size of 1040EZ.

I believe that a sale tax system would work better. The wealthy buy a lot of expensive homes, cars, yachts, jewelry, planes, cloths, paintings, race horses, eat at expensive restaurants, take expensive vacations, and spoil their children. If everyone paid a tax on everything they purchased, each would pay at the same rate, but the wealthy would pay more in taxes. That way, you are taking away tax loopholes and deductions.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

We should not be funding wasteful unnecessary wars like that ass wipe Bush got us into ...what a waste of trillions eh conservatives ....way to go ....

Raise taxes on the rich, tax college savings, raise gasoline taxes, and cut social programs? Or, cut the enormous waste that we all know should be cut? Or, should we do a combination of both? If your answer is to cut waste, what are the most obvious areas of waste that you would cut? If your answer is to raise taxes, what taxes would you increase? Or, what new taxes would you add? If your answer is to raise taxes, where would you use the new revenue? If your answer is to cut waste, where would you use the savings?

Lower taxes on everyone, especially thr cih (progressive taxation is completely unfair, everyone should be taxed at the same rate ala a flat tax.)

Implement mandatory conservation, recycling, and more efficient versions of things. It's absurd we tax more rather than cutting back even if that means draconian laws 'encouraging' it. Can't build new power generating plants everytime existing supply can't meet the deamnd - you cut back usage and the demand. Otherwise it's like raising the debt ceiling every year instead of capping it and facing the music at long last.

I also believe in taxing everyone at the same rate. And, I believe that having a sales tax that covers all taxation is way better than what we have now.

I favor a progressive tax rate. Without progressive taxes, there would be an even greater and increasing share of the wealth concentrated in the hands of the wealthy.. As income increases, households have more and more income that is not spent on basic necessities and thus can afford to pay more tax in a way that is impossible for the poor. These are the standard arguments in support of progressive taxes.

To me what makes the taxes unfair is not the progressive rate it's all the credits, exemptions, and deductions. All of these were created to help special interest group or to encourage some type of taxpayer behavior. If we did what congress is encouraging us to do, we would have a dozen kids, a mortgage we couldn't afford, and huge medical bills.

We should readjust the rates keeping them progressive and eliminate, most of the exemptions, credits, and deduction. We wouldn't need tax accountants, a 100,000 IRS workers, and computer programs to figure our taxes. Our financial decisions would no longer be based on taxes but rather the financial aspects of transactions. Tax time every year for most people would amount to 30 mins doing a form about the size of 1040EZ.

gee you got one right? Do you see how liberal crony socialist govt leads to every liberal special interest group going to Washington to buy favors and tax breaks?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I believe that a sale tax system would work better. The wealthy buy a lot of expensive homes, cars, yachts,.

too stupid!! they tried a luxury tax on yachts but had to repeal it because the rich stopped buying yachts and all the middle class people in the industry lost their jobs. Look it up liberal fool.

 

[Sonny Clark]

I believe that a sale tax system would work better. The wealthy buy a lot of expensive homes, cars, yachts,.

too stupid!! they tried a luxury tax on yachts but had to repeal it because the rich stopped buying yachts and all the middle class people in the industry lost their jobs. Look it up liberal fool.

I don't believe that a luxury tax was mentioned. I'm not in favor of a luxury tax either. I said a universal sales tax that applies to everyone.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Do the math, not the ideology.

The math would take a very long time, a lot of research, and would still show untold multi-$Billions in waste. Maybe even $Trillions. Just what we spend on the care and support of illegal immigrants is in the $Billions. It doesn't take an MIT graduate, nor a Philadelphia lawyer to see the enormous astronomical waste.

If you won't do the math then you have no right to bitch.

I'm a taxpayer. I have every right in the world to bitch. Doing the math has absolutely nothing to with what's going on. Doing the math doesn't solve one single thing. Whether the math is done or, there's no denying the astronomical waste taking place.

Doing the math means that you Educated and not Ideological. Do the math, it's not that hard. 4,000 billion. Find the savings, in Real Numbers, or shut up because all you are being is a whiny bitch.

Start here: Federal Spending Where Does the Money Go

Very funny. Your age? Calling me names doesn't do anything to enhance this conversation, nor does it add to your argument. Very childish and uncalled for to call me a whinny bitch. Please try to discuss issues in an adult and civil manner. Thanks.------------ Again, the math has no bearing on whether the things I mentioned are waste or not. In addition, it's obvious that the waste I have mentioned is a very large amount, multi-$Billions at the minimum.

If you are unwilling to do the math then you don't really care, and you are nothing more than a child whining because some other child got a better piece of cake you think? I can't help you.

 

[Sonny Clark]

The math would take a very long time, a lot of research, and would still show untold multi-$Billions in waste. Maybe even $Trillions. Just what we spend on the care and support of illegal immigrants is in the $Billions. It doesn't take an MIT graduate, nor a Philadelphia lawyer to see the enormous astronomical waste.

If you won't do the math then you have no right to bitch.

I'm a taxpayer. I have every right in the world to bitch. Doing the math has absolutely nothing to with what's going on. Doing the math doesn't solve one single thing. Whether the math is done or, there's no denying the astronomical waste taking place.

Doing the math means that you Educated and not Ideological. Do the math, it's not that hard. 4,000 billion. Find the savings, in Real Numbers, or shut up because all you are being is a whiny bitch.

Start here: Federal Spending Where Does the Money Go

Very funny. Your age? Calling me names doesn't do anything to enhance this conversation, nor does it add to your argument. Very childish and uncalled for to call me a whinny bitch. Please try to discuss issues in an adult and civil manner. Thanks.------------ Again, the math has no bearing on whether the things I mentioned are waste or not. In addition, it's obvious that the waste I have mentioned is a very large amount, multi-$Billions at the minimum.

If you are unwilling to do the math then you don't really care, and you are nothing more than a child whining because some other child got a better piece of cake you think? I can't help you.

Very silly and pathetic. Is that all you have on this subject? Are personal attacks and name calling your way of discussing issues? Grow up and at least appear to be somewhat adult. Act mature and civil, please. Your age? ------- Oh, I certainly do care about government waste and abuse of tax dollars. And, I don't have to account for every single penny of it to know what waste is. The waste is obvious, at least to those with common sense and can use simple logic. Try it sometimes, please. If math is all you have to counter with, then your motives are obvious. And, your argument is weak to say the least.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

If you won't do the math then you have no right to bitch.

I'm a taxpayer. I have every right in the world to bitch. Doing the math has absolutely nothing to with what's going on. Doing the math doesn't solve one single thing. Whether the math is done or, there's no denying the astronomical waste taking place.

Doing the math means that you Educated and not Ideological. Do the math, it's not that hard. 4,000 billion. Find the savings, in Real Numbers, or shut up because all you are being is a whiny bitch.

Start here: Federal Spending Where Does the Money Go

Very funny. Your age? Calling me names doesn't do anything to enhance this conversation, nor does it add to your argument. Very childish and uncalled for to call me a whinny bitch. Please try to discuss issues in an adult and civil manner. Thanks.------------ Again, the math has no bearing on whether the things I mentioned are waste or not. In addition, it's obvious that the waste I have mentioned is a very large amount, multi-$Billions at the minimum.

If you are unwilling to do the math then you don't really care, and you are nothing more than a child whining because some other child got a better piece of cake you think? I can't help you.

Very silly and pathetic. Is that all you have on this subject? Are personal attacks and name calling your way of discussing issues? Grow up and at least appear to be somewhat adult. Act mature and civil, please. Your age? ------- Oh, I certainly do care about government waste and abuse of tax dollars. And, I don't have to account for every single penny of it to know what waste is. The waste is obvious, at least to those with common sense and can use simple logic. Try it sometimes, please. If math is all you have to counter with, then your motives are obvious. And, your argument is weak to say the least.

You won't do the math, so don't bother commenting. The math is your undoing, obviously.

 

[Sonny Clark]

I'm a taxpayer. I have every right in the world to bitch. Doing the math has absolutely nothing to with what's going on. Doing the math doesn't solve one single thing. Whether the math is done or, there's no denying the astronomical waste taking place.

Doing the math means that you Educated and not Ideological. Do the math, it's not that hard. 4,000 billion. Find the savings, in Real Numbers, or shut up because all you are being is a whiny bitch.

Start here: Federal Spending Where Does the Money Go

Very funny. Your age? Calling me names doesn't do anything to enhance this conversation, nor does it add to your argument. Very childish and uncalled for to call me a whinny bitch. Please try to discuss issues in an adult and civil manner. Thanks.------------ Again, the math has no bearing on whether the things I mentioned are waste or not. In addition, it's obvious that the waste I have mentioned is a very large amount, multi-$Billions at the minimum.

If you are unwilling to do the math then you don't really care, and you are nothing more than a child whining because some other child got a better piece of cake you think? I can't help you.

Very silly and pathetic. Is that all you have on this subject? Are personal attacks and name calling your way of discussing issues? Grow up and at least appear to be somewhat adult. Act mature and civil, please. Your age? ------- Oh, I certainly do care about government waste and abuse of tax dollars. And, I don't have to account for every single penny of it to know what waste is. The waste is obvious, at least to those with common sense and can use simple logic. Try it sometimes, please. If math is all you have to counter with, then your motives are obvious. And, your argument is weak to say the least.

You won't do the math, so don't bother commenting.

Pleeeeease !! ------ Very weak and silly. Have anything else? the math argument doesn't work, sorry.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Doing the math means that you Educated and not Ideological. Do the math, it's not that hard. 4,000 billion. Find the savings, in Real Numbers, or shut up because all you are being is a whiny bitch.

Start here: Federal Spending Where Does the Money Go

Very funny. Your age? Calling me names doesn't do anything to enhance this conversation, nor does it add to your argument. Very childish and uncalled for to call me a whinny bitch. Please try to discuss issues in an adult and civil manner. Thanks.------------ Again, the math has no bearing on whether the things I mentioned are waste or not. In addition, it's obvious that the waste I have mentioned is a very large amount, multi-$Billions at the minimum.

If you are unwilling to do the math then you don't really care, and you are nothing more than a child whining because some other child got a better piece of cake you think? I can't help you.

Very silly and pathetic. Is that all you have on this subject? Are personal attacks and name calling your way of discussing issues? Grow up and at least appear to be somewhat adult. Act mature and civil, please. Your age? ------- Oh, I certainly do care about government waste and abuse of tax dollars. And, I don't have to account for every single penny of it to know what waste is. The waste is obvious, at least to those with common sense and can use simple logic. Try it sometimes, please. If math is all you have to counter with, then your motives are obvious. And, your argument is weak to say the least.

You won't do the math, so don't bother commenting.

Pleeeeease !! ------ Very weak and silly. Have anything else? the math argument doesn't work, sorry.

You won't learn the numbers and you won't do the math. All you can do is whine like a child, so be gone.

Federal Spending Where Does the Money Go

You're the guy who says taxes are too high, and then doesn't know that the tax rate is? I have no time for that, and neither does anyone else.

 

[OnePercenter]

Lower taxes on everyone, especially thr cih (progressive taxation is completely unfair, everyone should be taxed at the same rate ala a flat tax.)

Implement mandatory conservation, recycling, and more efficient versions of things. It's absurd we tax more rather than cutting back even if that means draconian laws 'encouraging' it. Can't build new power generating plants everytime existing supply can't meet the deamnd - you cut back usage and the demand. Otherwise it's like raising the debt ceiling every year instead of capping it and facing the music at long last.

If we instituted a flat tax, you'd get a tax increase.

 

[OnePercenter]

All taxation is just legalized theft by the government. Suppose it's a necessary evil though. Though I'd lvoe to see what happens when there are no taxes at all. Bet there's less wars... But it seems to me if we tax more successful people a higher percentage then that's just punishing that success and is thus unfair. Also, there seems to be a lot of overlap with taxes. If you tax a set amount once, then taxing it again is also unfair. Yet that's exactly what we do with federal, state, and local taxes taxing the same fixed amount multiple times.

We tax earnings.
Then we tax what remains again at the state level.
Then we tax that remainder a third time locally.
Then we tax it yet again, a fourth time if you dare to actually spend any of it via Sales Tax.
And we don't stop there. You get taxed additional times if you invest in others and are actually successful. Get taxed if you dare die and have a balance remaining.

We're awfully taxed for a supposedly free coutnry. This is the only area I'm aware of I actually agree with the Tea Partiers.

Taxes pay for the traffic signals.

 

[Clementine]

Lower taxes on everyone, especially thr cih (progressive taxation is completely unfair, everyone should be taxed at the same rate ala a flat tax.)

Implement mandatory conservation, recycling, and more efficient versions of things. It's absurd we tax more rather than cutting back even if that means draconian laws 'encouraging' it. Can't build new power generating plants everytime existing supply can't meet the deamnd - you cut back usage and the demand. Otherwise it's like raising the debt ceiling every year instead of capping it and facing the music at long last.

I also believe in taxing everyone at the same rate. And, I believe that having a sales tax that covers all taxation is way better than what we have now.

If we just stuck with a sales tax instead of income tax, the wealthy would still pay more since they spend more.

 

[Flopper]

Raising or lowering taxes won't limit government waste, as it is a work culture issue and to do with corporate welfare policy. Cut taxes and you just have a less efficient and more disorganized government. Increase taxes and you incremently increase the waste alongside it.

It is true that the culture in Washington is focused on preventing budget growth from ever slowing, much less actual budget cuts. That's where transparency comes in. Eliminate baseline budgeting and hidden deals.

You would need to allow citizens to decide where their tax dollars go, as politicians aren't going to act. Allow everyone to look at the books, and push the politicians to make cuts to waste and you might get somewhere. But the age old cry of ' national security ' or ' national interest ' will keep them shut, when it comes to intelligence agencies and the military.

Allow everyone to look at the books?
The Financial Report of the U.S. Government is online for all to see.
It's huge and it's really just summaries and analysis.
Who's to say if a 3 million or a 30 million dollar expenditure on administrative services is proper without knowing exactly what service is being provide to who and for what.

Current Report Financial Report of the United States Publications Guidance Financial Management Service

 

[Sonny Clark]

Very funny. Your age? Calling me names doesn't do anything to enhance this conversation, nor does it add to your argument. Very childish and uncalled for to call me a whinny bitch. Please try to discuss issues in an adult and civil manner. Thanks.------------ Again, the math has no bearing on whether the things I mentioned are waste or not. In addition, it's obvious that the waste I have mentioned is a very large amount, multi-$Billions at the minimum.

If you are unwilling to do the math then you don't really care, and you are nothing more than a child whining because some other child got a better piece of cake you think? I can't help you.

Very silly and pathetic. Is that all you have on this subject? Are personal attacks and name calling your way of discussing issues? Grow up and at least appear to be somewhat adult. Act mature and civil, please. Your age? ------- Oh, I certainly do care about government waste and abuse of tax dollars. And, I don't have to account for every single penny of it to know what waste is. The waste is obvious, at least to those with common sense and can use simple logic. Try it sometimes, please. If math is all you have to counter with, then your motives are obvious. And, your argument is weak to say the least.

You won't do the math, so don't bother commenting.

Pleeeeease !! ------ Very weak and silly. Have anything else? the math argument doesn't work, sorry.

You won't learn the numbers and you won't do the math. All you can do is whine like a child, so be gone.

Federal Spending Where Does the Money Go

You're the guy who says taxes are too high, and then doesn't know that the tax rate is? I have no time for that, and neither does anyone else.

We're not talking about tax rates. Tax rates have absolutely zero to do with the conversation.

 

[Sonny Clark]

Lower taxes on everyone, especially thr cih (progressive taxation is completely unfair, everyone should be taxed at the same rate ala a flat tax.)

Implement mandatory conservation, recycling, and more efficient versions of things. It's absurd we tax more rather than cutting back even if that means draconian laws 'encouraging' it. Can't build new power generating plants everytime existing supply can't meet the deamnd - you cut back usage and the demand. Otherwise it's like raising the debt ceiling every year instead of capping it and facing the music at long last.

I also believe in taxing everyone at the same rate. And, I believe that having a sales tax that covers all taxation is way better than what we have now.

If we just stuck with a sales tax instead of income tax, the wealthy would still pay more since they spend more.

Yes, but everyone would pay at the same rate.

 

[candycorn]

Raise taxes on the rich, tax college savings, raise gasoline taxes, and cut social programs? Or, cut the enormous waste that we all know should be cut? Or, should we do a combination of both? If your answer is to cut waste, what are the most obvious areas of waste that you would cut? If your answer is to raise taxes, what taxes would you increase? Or, what new taxes would you add? If your answer is to raise taxes, where would you use the new revenue? If your answer is to cut waste, where would you use the savings?

Cut Defense:

 

[zeke]

I believe that a sale tax system would work better. The wealthy buy a lot of expensive homes, cars, yachts, jewelry, planes, cloths, paintings, race horses, eat at expensive restaurants, take expensive vacations, and spoil their children

The ultra wealthy pretty much control the tax code with their campaign brib, I mean contributions.

SO why would the ultra wealthy support the tax code as you just defined it? They have worked hard and spent plenty to have the tax code that we currently use. Why would they support a big change like you propose?

 

[danielpalos]

Raise taxes on the rich, tax college savings, raise gasoline taxes, and cut social programs? Or, cut the enormous waste that we all know should be cut? Or, should we do a combination of both? If your answer is to cut waste, what are the most obvious areas of waste that you would cut? If your answer is to raise taxes, what taxes would you increase? Or, what new taxes would you add? If your answer is to raise taxes, where would you use the new revenue? If your answer is to cut waste, where would you use the savings?

Why not both? Would we even have our wars on Crime, Drugs, Poverty, and Terror, if the wealthiest had to pay wartime tax rates for them.

 

[Sonny Clark]

I believe that a sale tax system would work better. The wealthy buy a lot of expensive homes, cars, yachts, jewelry, planes, cloths, paintings, race horses, eat at expensive restaurants, take expensive vacations, and spoil their children

The ultra wealthy pretty much control the tax code with their campaign brib, I mean contributions.

SO why would the ultra wealthy support the tax code as you just defined it? They have worked hard and spent plenty to have the tax code that we currently use. Why would they support a big change like you propose?

They wouldn't, under any circumstance.