CDZ Radical Islam doesn't Exist

[Sunni Man]

Islam is the religion of Jihad.

Jihad is just a small part of the Islamic religion. ......

 

[skye]

Islam is the religion of Jihad.

Jihad is just a small part of the Islamic religion. ......

Small? Really?

"Jihad is a religious obligation. It forms part of the duties that the believer must fulfill "

also ...there is the promise of reward in the afterlife for waging jihad.


There are peaceful people and violent people in all religions, yes, but Islam has the strongest tendency towards violence, since Mohamed days and certainly today.

 

[Brynmr]

Islam is the religion of Jihad.

Jihad is just a small part of the Islamic religion. ......

Jihad is the be all and end all of Islam.

 

[Sunni Man]

"Jihad is a religious obligation. It forms part of the duties that the believer must fulfill "
also ...there is the promise of reward in the afterlife for waging jihad.
There are peaceful people and violent people in all religions, yes, but Islam has the strongest tendency towards violence, since Mohamed days and certainly today.

Jihad is basically self defense.

If you think about it. Europe and the U.S. have been colonizing and invading the Middle East and Africa for well over a 100 years.

The muslim people are sick of being subjugated by the western powers and are fighting to be free. ......

 

[Brynmr]

"Jihad is a religious obligation. It forms part of the duties that the believer must fulfill "
also ...there is the promise of reward in the afterlife for waging jihad.
There are peaceful people and violent people in all religions, yes, but Islam has the strongest tendency towards violence, since Mohamed days and certainly today.

Jihad is basically self defense.

And you would be absolutely right. However, any rejection of Islam is viewed as an act of aggression against Islam. Dar el Harb is in fact an act of aggression that demands defensive war.

 

[Sunni Man]

Dar el Harb is in fact an act of aggression that demands defensive war.

Incorrect.

It just means a land not under Islamic rule. .....

 

[Brynmr]

"Jihad is a religious obligation. It forms part of the duties that the believer must fulfill "
also ...there is the promise of reward in the afterlife for waging jihad.
There are peaceful people and violent people in all religions, yes, but Islam has the strongest tendency towards violence, since Mohamed days and certainly today.

If you think about it. Europe and the U.S. have been colonizing and invading the Middle East and Africa for well over a 100 years.

This is the blame the West nonsense. Islam has been at war with everyone since it's very creation. It needs no outside help.

 

[skye]

"Jihad is a religious obligation. It forms part of the duties that the believer must fulfill "
also ...there is the promise of reward in the afterlife for waging jihad.
There are peaceful people and violent people in all religions, yes, but Islam has the strongest tendency towards violence, since Mohamed days and certainly today.

Jihad is basically self defense.

If you think about it. Europe and the U.S. have been colonizing and invading the Middle East and Africa for well over a 100 years.

The muslim people are sick of being subjugated by the western powers and are fighting to be free. ......

You are wrong.

Since the days of Mohammed, Islam has been on the war path consistently, colonizing whatever parts of the world it could conquer in the name of Jihad,

This Jihad only stopped after the first World War, when the Ottoman Turks were defeated and their colonies were split up.

It's that simple.

Any Western interference is simply due to this fact.

Anybody who doesn't believe in the concept of Jihad to subjugate the non believer , which also includes Muslim non believers, is not a true Muslim.

 

[Brynmr]

Dar el Harb is in fact an act of aggression that demands defensive war.

Incorrect.

It just means a land not under Islamic rule. .....

Encyclopedia of the Middle East

Dar al Harb

Dar al Harb (Arabic: دار الحرب "house of war") refers to areas outside Muslim rule, as opposed to Dar al Islam. The precise designations of such territories can vary widely according to the speakers idea of who is and is not a Muslim, and which governments are or are not Muslim in practice. The inhabitants of the Dar al-Harb are called harbi (Arabic: حربي), as opposed to dhimmi (second class citizens of the book - Christians and Jews) or kufr (non-believers, pagans). According to ancient law, a harbi does not even have the right to live. To enter the territory of Islam (Dar al Islam) he needs a safe-conduct pass called an aman. The term has meaning today for Islamist extremists.

Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi was quoted in As Sarq al Awast of July 19, 2003 as saying:

"It has been determined by Islamic law that the blood and property of people of Dar Al-Harb are not protected."

Likewise, Sheikh Ali Gomaa said in an interview published in July 2003 by the Egyptian newspaper Al-Haqiqa:

"...it is permitted to kill him, because he is a Harbi and the Harbi spreads corruption throughout the face of the earth."

 

[Sunni Man]

Dar el Harb is in fact an act of aggression that demands defensive war.

Nope.....it does not demand war. .....

 

[irosie91]

Even so---lots of those same people will assert with CONFIDENCE---that everything that it says in the koran is RIGHT---and real Islamic society governed by REAL SHARIAH is PERFECT.

They are correct. ......

What would real Shariah be as compared to un-real version?

you question is idiotic----REAL SHARIAH is the shariah law as interpreted by Islamic scholars---like--for exemple---the scholars of Al Azhar U.

 

[Yarddog]

Even so---lots of those same people will assert with CONFIDENCE---that everything that it says in the koran is RIGHT---and real Islamic society governed by REAL SHARIAH is PERFECT.

They are correct. ......

What would real Shariah be as compared to un-real version?

you question is idiotic----REAL SHARIAH is the shariah law as interpreted by Islamic scholars---like--for exemple---the scholars of Al Azhar U.

Thank you ma'am I do realize it was a crazy question but I was just curious as to what the resident Sunni expert had to say if anything.

 

[irosie91]

"Jihad is a religious obligation. It forms part of the duties that the believer must fulfill "
also ...there is the promise of reward in the afterlife for waging jihad.
There are peaceful people and violent people in all religions, yes, but Islam has the strongest tendency towards violence, since Mohamed days and certainly today.

Jihad is basically self defense.

If you think about it. Europe and the U.S. have been colonizing and invading the Middle East and Africa for well over a 100 years.

The muslim people are sick of being subjugated by the western powers and are fighting to be free. ......

the muslim "people" have been invading and murdering, pillaging and raping in the middle east for about 1400 years and they also invaded and pillaged and shit and fart and raped in south east asia and thruout Africa for more than 1200 years. The muslim "people" even murder, rape and pillage in the far east and now even their slut whores murder in the "new world"

 

[Brynmr]

Dar el Harb is in fact an act of aggression that demands defensive war.

Nope.....it does not demand war. .....

We won't be taking YOUR word on this.

"As a child I attended Gaza elementary schools and we were taught that Jihad is a religious holy war for the sake of Allah. That's what it is. To conquer the world for Allah. That is Jihad." ~ Nonie Darwish

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A good Moslem is one who engages in violent (and non violent) jihads against freedom. This pleases Allah more than any other act. All people should be ashamed to be Moslem. All Moslems should leave Islam.

Sahih Bukhari
Volume 4, Book 52, Number 53:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:

The Prophet said, "Nobody who dies and finds good from Allah (in the Hereafter) would wish to come back to this world even if he were given the whole world and whatever is in it, except the martyr who, on seeing the superiority of martyrdom, would like to come back to the world and get killed again (in Allah's Cause)."

Narrated Anas:

The Prophet said, "A single endeavor (of fighting) in Allah's Cause in the afternoon or in the forenoon is better than all the world and whatever is in it. A place in Paradise as small as the bow or lash of one of you is better than all the world and whatever is in it. And if a houri from Paradise appeared to the people of the earth, she would fill the space between Heaven and the Earth with light and pleasant scent and her head cover is better than the world and whatever is in it."

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 65:
Narrated Abu Musa:

A man came to the Prophet and asked, "A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them fights in Allah's Cause?" The Prophet said, "He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause."

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 72:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:

The Prophet said, "Nobody who enters Paradise likes to go back to the world even if he got everything on the earth, except a Mujahid who wishes to return to the world so that he may be martyred ten times because of the dignity he receives (from Allah)."

Narrated Al-Mughira bin Shu'ba:

Our Prophet told us about the message of our Lord that "Whoever amongst us is killed will go to Paradise." Umar asked the Prophet, "Is it not true that our men who are killed will go to Paradise and their's (i.e. those of the Pagan's) will go to the (Hell) fire?" The Prophet said, "Yes."


Koran
2.216 Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.

2.217 They question thee (O Muhammad) with regard to warfare in the sacred month. Say: Warfare therein is a great (transgression), but to turn (men) from the way of Allah, and to disbelieve in Him and in the Inviolable Place of Worship, and to expel His people thence, is a greater with Allah; for persecution is worse than killing. And they will not cease from fighting against you till they have made you renegades from your religion, if they can. And whoso becometh a renegade and dieth in his disbelief: such are they whose works have fallen both in the world and the Hereafter. Such are rightful owners of the Fire: they will abide therein.

 

[Brynmr]

Islamic Jihad

Africa: 120 million Africans

Thomas Sowell [Thomas Sowell, Race and Culture, BasicBooks, 1994, p. 188] estimates that 11 million slaves were shipped across the Atlantic and 14 million were sent to the Islamic nations of North Africa and the Middle East. For every slave captured many others died. Estimates of this collateral damage vary. The renowned missionary David Livingstone estimated that for every slave who reached a plantation, five others were killed in the initial raid or died of illness and privation on the forced march.[Woman’s Presbyterian Board of Missions, David Livingstone, p. 62, 1888] Those who were left behind were the very young, the weak, the sick and the old. These soon died since the main providers had been killed or enslaved. So, for 25 million slaves delivered to the market, we have an estimated death of about 120 million people. Islam ran the wholesale slave trade in Africa.

Buddhists: 10 million Buddhists

Buddhists do not keep up with the history of war. Keep in mind that in jihad only Christians and Jews were allowed to survive as dhimmis (servants to Islam); everyone else had to convert or die. Jihad killed the Buddhists in Turkey, Afghanistan, along the Silk Route, and in India. The total is roughly 10 million. [David B. Barrett, Todd M. Johnson, World Christian Trends AD 30-AD 2200, William Carey Library, 2001, p. 230, table 4-1.]

Hindus: 80 million Hindus

Koenard Elst in Negationism in India gives an estimate of 80 million Hindus killed in the total jihad against India. [Koenard Elst, Negationism in India, Voice of India, New Delhi, 2002, pg. 34.] The country of India today is only half the size of ancient India, due to jihad. The mountains near India are called the Hindu Kush, meaning the “funeral pyre of the Hindus.”

Christians: 60 million Christians

The number of Christians martyred by Islam is 9 million [David B. Barrett, Todd M. Johnson, World Christian Trends AD 30-AD 2200, William Carey Library, 2001, p. 230, table 4-10] . A rough estimate by Raphael Moore in History of Asia Minor is that another 50 million died in wars by jihad. So counting the million African Christians killed in the 20th century we have:

Rough estimate: 270 million killed by Islamic jihad

 

[Sunni Man]

And?? ........

 

[Brynmr]

And?? ........

...so no soup for you.

 

[theHawk]

Why do soo many people want our Pres. Obama to use the word "radical" when referring to terrorist attacks in certain countries? ........

He does use the term "radical" when talking about terrorists. He doesn't use the term Islam with it though.

I actually agree with you though, there is no distinction between "radical Islam" and just Islam. The terrorists are just going by what their book of lies tells them.

 

[Sundance508]

Why do soo many people want our Pres. Obama to use the word "radical" when referring to terrorist attacks in certain countries? ........

He does use the term "radical" when talking about terrorists. He doesn't use the term Islam with it though.

I actually agree with you though, there is no distinction between "radical Islam" and just Islam. The terrorists are just going by what their book of lies tells them.

Yes....you are correct. Obama should be reading this thread....might shake him out of his delusion regarding islam.

The more faithful or the more religious a muslim is...the greater likliehood that he will engage in or at least support the active jihadists.

In a nutshell we have a problem...a huge problem with Islam...that is what our leaders will not admit ...neither obama nor bush nor just about anyone in the upper echelons of power in Washington D.C.

 

[Sundance508]

Why would I be on a list? ....

I haven't broken any laws. ....

Neither had the Orlando shooter.....I haven't read many of your posts but you now have my attention........if I come to the conclusion you have been radicalized or are encouraging acts of terrorism I will report you to the appropriate agencies....though I would not be supprised at all if you are not already on the watch list.