Racism and the Election

[KMAN]

I heard an interesting point today...

Who are the real racists in the election? Republicans or Democrats...

Seems to me that for the most part Republicans are going to vote for Republicans and Demcrats are going to vote for Democrats. I think we all agree on that...

So if Republicans do not vote for Obama it's because he's not a Republican... The only people that could be seen as racist are Democrats who vote Republican in this election...

I don't see how you could look at it any other way unless you have proof of someone being a racist... So let's put this racism debate away please.

 

[Jon]

A lot of Republicans are Republicans because they are racist. Sad, but true.

There's racism on both sides of the aisle here. A lot of people will vote against Obama because he's black, a lot of will vote for Obama because he's black. I think the election will be decided not by the racist votes, but by the people who actually give a shit about politics. I think the racist votes will all but cancel each other out. If McCain wins by a large margin in swing states, then you know there's racism. If Obama wins by a large margin in Southern states, then you know racism was the cause. I don't see either being a case. If McCain does win the swing states, it will be by narrow margins, and if Obama wins the Southern states, it will be by narrow margins.

 

[Tech_Esq]

I heard an interesting point today...

Who are the real racists in the election? Republicans or Democrats...

Seems to me that for the most part Republicans are going to vote for Republicans and Demcrats are going to vote for Democrats. I think we all agree on that...

So if Republicans do not vote for Obama it's because he's not a Republican... The only people that could be seen as racist are Democrats who vote Republican in this election...

I don't see how you could look at it any other way unless you have proof of someone being a racist... So let's put this racism debate away please.

I don't think that is quite fair. I think there are still a substantial number of Democrats who haven't gotten the memo that their party is now a Socialist Party and they still think it has something to do with the Democrat Party of old. Those people could easily not vote for Obama purely for political reasons. He does not stand with them on many issues.

 

[Tech_Esq]

A lot of Republicans are Republicans because they are racist. Sad, but true.

There's racism on both sides of the aisle here. A lot of people will vote against Obama because he's black, a lot of will vote for Obama because he's black. I think the election will be decided not by the racist votes, but by the people who actually give a shit about politics. I think the racist votes will all but cancel each other out. If McCain wins by a large margin in swing states, then you know there's racism. If Obama wins by a large margin in Southern states, then you know racism was the cause. I don't see either being a case. If McCain does win the swing states, it will be by narrow margins, and if Obama wins the Southern states, it will be by narrow margins.

I agree there is racism on both sides. I'm not sure about the racist effects canceling each other out. I think it is more likely that it will end up helping him. He has a group of people that he can identify by skin color that will vote for him 95% of the time. That would have a 10% net impact on the election if he can just A) register them to vote and B) get them to the polls. All made easier by the fact that you can see with the naked eye who they will vote for. That's a dream for most candidates running for office. Imagine, you could know who is going to vote for you just by looking.

He does have a technical racism problem though and this showed up in the primaries against Hillary. People will lie to the pollsters and vote for someone else in the booth. This could lead to him thinking he is doing better than he is. This presents a profound problem for allocating campaign resources. He may be fooled into thinking he is doing well in one place and misallocate resources to a tighter state.

I don't think any race is won by people who give a shit about politics. Most people are smarter than to care about politics. A good third of people don't even care about politics enough to understand political parties and why they should belong to one or the ramifications of not voting for one party. Most people just do their jobs and occasionally do their civic duty with as much information as they think necessary to feel comfortable with the decision they make for president. It doesn't even matter if it's accurate. All it has to do is make them feel comfortable.

 

[bigdaddygtr]

A lot of Republicans are Republicans because they are racist. Sad, but true.

There's racism on both sides of the aisle here. A lot of people will vote against Obama because he's black, a lot of will vote for Obama because he's black. I think the election will be decided not by the racist votes, but by the people who actually give a shit about politics. I think the racist votes will all but cancel each other out. If McCain wins by a large margin in swing states, then you know there's racism. If Obama wins by a large margin in Southern states, then you know racism was the cause. I don't see either being a case. If McCain does win the swing states, it will be by narrow margins, and if Obama wins the Southern states, it will be by narrow margins.

Coming from the white guy who thought it was ok for him to say "******" I find that funny. Now your trying to play the other role but I see right through your BS. You want to use that word on here when you can hide, fine, but go call your boy Darren McFadden that and see another side of him come out

 

[bigdaddygtr]

A lot of Republicans are Republicans because they are racist. Sad, but true.

There's racism on both sides of the aisle here. A lot of people will vote against Obama because he's black, a lot of will vote for Obama because he's black. I think the election will be decided not by the racist votes, but by the people who actually give a shit about politics. I think the racist votes will all but cancel each other out. If McCain wins by a large margin in swing states, then you know there's racism. If Obama wins by a large margin in Southern states, then you know racism was the cause. I don't see either being a case. If McCain does win the swing states, it will be by narrow margins, and if Obama wins the Southern states, it will be by narrow margins.

And BTW, if your older than 40, black and you don't trust/like white people, I totally understand because you saw and were treated in ways that are beyond comprehensible. But some white people just dont get that our history is the reason for many of the racial issues here and thats not gonna change overnight

 

[Tech_Esq]

And BTW, if your older than 40, black and you don't trust/like white people, I totally understand because you saw and were treated in ways that are beyond comprehensible. But some white people just dont get that our history is the reason for many of the racial issues here and thats not gonna change overnight

Good point. I think the frustration on both sides is figuring out what it will take to even start a meaningful dialog that will end up with an accommodation on race that both sides can agree to. I'm somewhat doubtful there is a a place to even begin. Maybe in another generation. (Speaking as a white guy who works 3 days a week in NE Washington, DC where I'm one of 5 white people in the building.)

 

[Elyk88]

...there is a lot more ageism in this election than racism imo.