Race Differences in average IQ are Largely Genetic

[ShootSpeeders]

You all know the story: Lowly intern at massively wealthy company moves up the ladder to become CEO of said company. Or perhaps you don't know the story because it never really happens, minus a few dream sequences in movies. But Ursula Burns -- CEO of a little outfit called Xerox -- did just that, and became the first African-American CEO of a Fortune 500 company to boot.
Burns joined Xerox fresh out of Columbia University, where she received her master's degree in mechanical engineering. She soon was working closely with one of the division presidents and was given a title of president in 2007. In 2009, she was named CEO – nearly 30 years after the world's most successful summer internship

HowStuffWorks "Famous Black Engineers Throughout History"

What if someone had told her should could never be CEO of Xerox and she believed them SS?

Of course she can become CEO of xerox - thanks to AA. Otherwise she'd just be a stock girl.

 

[abu afak]

OK sleepyAss, you want to 'Play Picture'?
You keep DISHONESTLY Doing so.
32 Very recent arrests in Tennessee.

Clean Sweep.
That's puts ME up a Dozen or more with a Single/More Likely Outcome.
Are there More Black Scientists or Convicts?

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Above Must be Olmecs or Melanesians!
:^)

04-10-2013
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Offense:
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Charge: 22-3 FAILURE TO COMPLY
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Charge: 16-017-0530 A DISORDERLY CONDUCT
Case #: 1326483 Disposition: Open

Shall we Keep Playing Asclepias' DISHONEST LOW BROW Picture Game, or have real debate?
Since he has no legitimate refutation, I suspect this will continue.
Guess who's gonna win either way.
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[RKMBrown]

What!
I additionally cited/Linked the JOURNAL Of BLACKS in HIGHER EDUCATION 2009!
The OP.

WTF!
Totally Gutted in debate RKMBrown is not only non-responsive fact-wise, he's Dissciative/Lost it.
Get a grip!
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A widening gap in overall racial scores is not proof of the inferiority of a race, you racist pig.

I don't object to Content-filled/factual posts with barbs/zingers attached.
But you are an empty ad hom Clown Shouting Frustrated insults because you have NO Facts whatsoever. You're Merely angry/indignant/ignorant/FactLESS and couldn't deal with what was posted.

Any real contributions, beside Fallacious anecdotes/EXCEPTIONS posted by Asclepas and his hourly 3rd grade coloring book would be welcome.
Asclepas' pictures Do NOT refute the OP/Average IQ at all. (he DUHzn't understand, Unwittingly Proving the OP!)
A thousand/few thousands/Ten/Twenty Thousand Black people with science jobs, (which I wouldn't doubt) would NOT change the facts/AVERAGE IQ of/for the 30 MILLION American ones of whom 1 MILLION are in prison and Many Many More on parole/out/Drop-outs.
Not to mention the Tens/Hundreds of Millions worldwide who live in poverty and failed states.

Perhaps there is someone/anyone on the other side who can vocalize/address the topic, not Bogus Illogical last-wording like Asclepas.
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Face it you are nothing but an ignorant racist pig cut and pasting from racist web pages.

 

[RKMBrown]

 

[Tank]

Facts are facts:

Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Asclepias]

Shall we Keep Playing Asclepias' DISHONEST LOW BROW Picture Game, or have real debate?
Since he has no legitimate refutation, I suspect this will continue.
Guess who's gonna win either way.[/size]
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Of course lets keep playing Abu bu. This is fun. I am debating your point in images. I am proving your OP is stupid as you are. You posting criminals proves that some Blacks are criminal not genetically flawed because of low IQ which is your point. Me posting pictures of Black people with obviously high IQ's is killing your argument. You cant possibly win. But...you gave me a good idea.

More proof of Black success with High IQ's.

Oluyinka O. Olutoye
Pediatric Surgeon
Baylor College of Medicine

Dr. Olutoye is Associate Professor of Pediatric Surgery at Baylor College of Medicine and Co-Director of the Texas Children’s Fetal Center. He performs fetal surgeries and also conducts his own research. One of his research interests is how wounds heal. In particular, he’s interested in the way fetuses manage to heal themselves without generating scar tissue. He hopes that understanding this fetal healing process will help scientists develop new therapies for adults—especially people who have trouble healing or who develop too much scar tissue.

Dr. Olutoye attended medical school in his home country of Nigeria. He then moved to the United States to pursue further surgical training and a Ph.D. in Anatomy at the Virginia Commonwealth University. He will continue to travel the world as a James IV Association of Surgeons 2007 Traveling Scholar, an honor that will allow him to exchange ideas with surgeons in Saudi Arabia, Great Britain, Vietnam and Australia.

 

[Asclepias]

Gang accused of murdering and robbing wealthy couple who were tied up and burned to death in their home
A man has been arrested and faces murder charges in the deaths of a wealthy Arizona couple found tied up and burned beyond recognition in their upscale home. Michael Crane, 31, will face two murder charges, as well as kidnapping, armed robbery, arson, and burglary charges.

Is this proof of low IQ or are these people just criminals?

 

[Meathead]

Gang accused of murdering and robbing wealthy couple who were tied up and burned to death in their home
A man has been arrested and faces murder charges in the deaths of a wealthy Arizona couple found tied up and burned beyond recognition in their upscale home. Michael Crane, 31, will face two murder charges, as well as kidnapping, armed robbery, arson, and burglary charges.

Is this proof of low IQ or are these people just criminals?

They are certainly not mutually exclusive, so most likely both. Committing violent crimes, especially stupidly enough to get caught is an indicator of low IQ, thus the racial incarceration rates of the US prison system. It goes back in large part to the bell curve which accounts handsomely for the ratios.

 

[Unkotare]

No, oddly enough those buildings are not completely abandoned. Gypsies or Roma live in these places, something akin to inner city housing project in the 60s and 70s.

The presence of squatters does not disconfirm a building's status as abandoned.

Gypsies share a lot of the same problems with black Americans. Consistently poor educational performance, low IQ ,astronomical crime and incarceration rates, drugs and health problems. It is not by chance that the photograph is reminiscent US housing projects.

Do you feel the Roma have all the opportunity, respect, legal protections, security, and social integration that those doing better in Europe have?

 

[Asclepias]

Gang accused of murdering and robbing wealthy couple who were tied up and burned to death in their home
A man has been arrested and faces murder charges in the deaths of a wealthy Arizona couple found tied up and burned beyond recognition in their upscale home. Michael Crane, 31, will face two murder charges, as well as kidnapping, armed robbery, arson, and burglary charges.

Is this proof of low IQ or are these people just criminals?

They are certainly not mutually exclusive, so most likely both. Committing violent crimes, especially stupidly enough to get caught is an indicator of low IQ, thus the racial incarceration rates of the US prison system. It goes back in large part to the bell curve which accounts handsomely for the ratios.

In other words your guessing? How do you know they are low IQ and not angry or on drugs, or any other reason that makes us humans do savage things?

 

[Meathead]

The presence of squatters does not disconfirm a building's status as abandoned.

Gypsies share a lot of the same problems with black Americans. Consistently poor educational performance, low IQ ,astronomical crime and incarceration rates, drugs and health problems. It is not by chance that the photograph is reminiscent US housing projects.

Do you feel the Roma have all the opportunity, respect, legal protections, security, and social integration that those doing better in Europe have?

Respect, certainly not. Social integration was unsuccessfully tried by Joseph II, Hapsburg emperor and more recently the communists. Like black Americans today, their security is mostly threatened by their own rather than by others. Opportunities are there, but very rarely taken advantage of.

Having said that, their lot is not an easy one., but then they are also to blame.

 

[Asclepias]

Gypsies share a lot of the same problems with black Americans. Consistently poor educational performance, low IQ ,astronomical crime and incarceration rates, drugs and health problems. It is not by chance that the photograph is reminiscent US housing projects.

Do you feel the Roma have all the opportunity, respect, legal protections, security, and social integration that those doing better in Europe have?

Respect, certainly not. Social integration was unsuccessfully tried by Joseph II, Hapsburg emperor and more recently the communists. Like black Americans today, their security is mostly threatened by their own rather than by others. Opportunities are there, but very rarely taken advantage of.

Having said that, their lot is not an easy one., but then they are also to blame.

Sounds really familiar. The point people miss is that you don't live in their shoes and deal with the events they go through. Point to any underachieving group of society and you will find that it is a result of discrimination, racism and a massive failure on part of those claiming there is something inherently wrong with that group.

 

[Meathead]

Do you feel the Roma have all the opportunity, respect, legal protections, security, and social integration that those doing better in Europe have?

Respect, certainly not. Social integration was unsuccessfully tried by Joseph II, Hapsburg emperor and more recently the communists. Like black Americans today, their security is mostly threatened by their own rather than by others. Opportunities are there, but very rarely taken advantage of.

Having said that, their lot is not an easy one., but then they are also to blame.

Sounds really familiar. The point people miss is that you don't live in their shoes and deal with the events they go through. Point to any underachieving group of society and you will find that it is a result of discrimination, racism and a massive failure on part of those claiming there is something inherently wrong with that group.

What is inherently wrong with that is that other groups overcame whatever hurdles they faced and eventually were successful. Jews in this part of the world suffered substantially more discrimination yet prospered. Yours is a question of dogma, not objective thought. You are not to be taken seriously.

 

[Asclepias]

Respect, certainly not. Social integration was unsuccessfully tried by Joseph II, Hapsburg emperor and more recently the communists. Like black Americans today, their security is mostly threatened by their own rather than by others. Opportunities are there, but very rarely taken advantage of.

Having said that, their lot is not an easy one., but then they are also to blame.

Sounds really familiar. The point people miss is that you don't live in their shoes and deal with the events they go through. Point to any underachieving group of society and you will find that it is a result of discrimination, racism and a massive failure on part of those claiming there is something inherently wrong with that group.

What is inherently wrong with that is that other groups overcame whatever hurdles they faced and eventually were successful. Jews in this part of the world suffered substantially more discrimination yet prospered. Yours is a question of dogma, not objective thought. You are not to be taken seriously.

What is laughable with your opinion is that you cant compare 2 different groups unless all factors are equal. How could you not know that? If all factors are not equal you have to look at the difference and determine the impact the differences have on the results.

 

[Meathead]

Sounds really familiar. The point people miss is that you don't live in their shoes and deal with the events they go through. Point to any underachieving group of society and you will find that it is a result of discrimination, racism and a massive failure on part of those claiming there is something inherently wrong with that group.

What is inherently wrong with that is that other groups overcame whatever hurdles they faced and eventually were successful. Jews in this part of the world suffered substantially more discrimination yet prospered. Yours is a question of dogma, not objective thought. You are not to be taken seriously.

What is laughable with your opinion is that you cant compare 2 different groups unless all factors are equal. How could you not know that? If all factors are not equal you have to look at the difference and determine the impact the differences have on the results.

Indeed, they were not equal. Jews were far more intelligent and thus able to take advantage of opportunities where they found them.

Must I explain everything?

 

[Asclepias]

What is inherently wrong with that is that other groups overcame whatever hurdles they faced and eventually were successful. Jews in this part of the world suffered substantially more discrimination yet prospered. Yours is a question of dogma, not objective thought. You are not to be taken seriously.

What is laughable with your opinion is that you cant compare 2 different groups unless all factors are equal. How could you not know that? If all factors are not equal you have to look at the difference and determine the impact the differences have on the results.

Indeed, they were not equal. Jews were far more intelligent and thus able to take advantage of opportunities where they found them.

Must I explain everything?

They also were able to have the super powers provide them a country, protect them, and finance their success until they were able to get on their feet. So yes please explain everything.

 

[Asclepias]

The Jewish also never lost their religion.

They never had to face Jim Crow.

Their skin was not a dead giveaway they were Jewish.

Are you getting my point about how stupid you are to compare them?

 

[Meathead]

What is laughable with your opinion is that you cant compare 2 different groups unless all factors are equal. How could you not know that? If all factors are not equal you have to look at the difference and determine the impact the differences have on the results.

Indeed, they were not equal. Jews were far more intelligent and thus able to take advantage of opportunities where they found them.

Must I explain everything?

They also were able to have the super powers provide them a country, protect them, and finance their success until they were able to get on their feet. So yes please explain everything.

Don't be silly. Jews in Europe were successful far before the emergence of superpowers and the modern state of Israel. Freud, Einstein, Assimov and Chagall among them.

You are so dogmatic in trying to vindicate the lack of success of black Americans by making them victims that dialogue with you is pointless.

 

[abu afak]

Sounds really familiar. The point people miss is that you don't live in their shoes and deal with the events they go through. Point to any underachieving group of society and you will find that it is a result of discrimination, racism and a massive failure on part of those claiming there is something inherently wrong with that group.

What is inherently wrong with that is that other groups overcame whatever hurdles they faced and eventually were successful. Jews in this part of the world suffered substantially more discrimination yet prospered. Yours is a question of dogma, not objective thought. You are not to be taken seriously.

Asclepias is in NOT in the "personal Responsibility" camp.

Whites are forcing 2/3 of Black Babies to be born out of wedlock and 1/3 of Young Black men to commit crimes and go into the penal system? They're also 'cheating' them in IQ tests and SATs.
Oh Yeah.

Of course, Chinese, many brought here as virtual slave labor to build the railroads, and Japanese to Harvest Sugar cane in Hawaii are doing very well and are wildly Over-represented in Ivy League admissions despite ie, in the case of the Japanese, being interned and losing everything as late a WWII.
Same in South America.
But The last President of Peru, Fujimori, was of tiny minority Japanese descent, despite his people being brought to South American as indentured workers too.

They/Brainy East Asians, are in good part are the Victims of the Affirmative Action and quotas that let much lesser qualified Blacks in.
Many businesses struggle to hire qualified blacks to get up to their 'quotas'.

The Koreans and Indians worked (and are still working) up and out too in small family businesses that Any group could start/have started with the initiative to.

So blacks are underachieving in this society Despite strong efforts to by the Govt, etc. while other groups are achieving and over-achieving.

And the same is true Internationally on a continental/regional basis. Many areas were victims of white colonialism, but have overcome it and have credible states. Asia, South America, etc.. but Not Africa.

All consistent with... the OP and 100 years of IQ/other testing.
Demography is destiny.
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[Asclepias]

Indeed, they were not equal. Jews were far more intelligent and thus able to take advantage of opportunities where they found them.

Must I explain everything?

They also were able to have the super powers provide them a country, protect them, and finance their success until they were able to get on their feet. So yes please explain everything.

Don't be silly. Jews in Europe were successful far before the emergence of superpowers and the modern state of Israel. Freud, Einstein, Assimov and Chagall among them.

You are so dogmatic in trying to vindicate the lack of success of black Americans by making them victims that dialogue with you is pointless.

But I thought the groups had the same way to go to get to success? You are not making sense. Were the situations exactly the same or were there differences? If there were differences how did those differences affect the outcome? Your assumptions are funny but telling as to your intelligence.