Question For John Atheist: Don't You Want To Remember Your Good Deeds Forever?

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If matter were never created or destroyed:

• How could there ever be any to begin with?
• From what would the Sun produce its energy (sunlight)?
• What would cause atomic bombs to explode?

How was matter created exactly in those events, Einstein?

Not to mention what you are trying to describe is actually entropy which you got no doubt from my posts. Too funny. Which further proves the universe cannot be eternal into the past. You really are a dumb ass poser.

When are you going to provide some links to your imaginary science?

 

[ding]

Still waiting.. for you to quit simply jerking off and get serious.. child..

Still waiting for your links, bro. I can wait for you to finish jerking off though.

 

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I seriously can't wait for Catman51 Grumblenuts and harmonica to darwinize themselves out of existence.

 

[Grumblenuts]

I said, I wouldn't go that far because I have met a happy atheist. Just not any on this board.

I have also met atheists that were happy with me as well. Just not any on this board.

Gee, wonder why that could be?

 

[harmonica]

I seriously can't wait for Catman51 Grumblenuts and harmonica to darwinize themselves out of existence.

that's UNchristian--wow--you did it again..not nice at all

 

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I said, I wouldn't go that far because I have met a happy atheist. Just not any on this board.

I have also met atheists that were happy with me as well. Just not any on this board.

Gee, wonder why that could be?

Because militant atheism destroys the soul much like socialism does.

 

[ding]

I seriously can't wait for Catman51 Grumblenuts and harmonica to darwinize themselves out of existence.

that's UNchristian--wow--you did it again..not nice at all

Yep. Agreed. So is this....

 

[Grumblenuts]

I seriously can't wait for Catman51 Grumblenuts and harmonica to darwinize themselves out of existence.

Having a sad day?
Ahh, poor baby
There, there now

 

[Catman51]

I seriously can't wait for Catman51 Grumblenuts and harmonica to darwinize themselves out of existence.

Having a sad day?
Ahh, poor baby
There, there now

Personally, t avoid Ding's idiocy I have put him on ignore. Much easier to avoid his moronic statements.

 

[Grumblenuts]

If matter were never created or destroyed:

• How could there ever be any to begin with?
• From what would the Sun produce its energy (sunlight)?
• What would cause atomic bombs to explode?

How was matter created exactly in those events, Einstein?

So matter wasn't created? By some god? From "nothing"? Is that your new theory?

Anyone else? These questions apply equally well to anyone interested in defending the applicable modern physics doctrine..

 

[ding]

If matter were never created or destroyed:

• How could there ever be any to begin with?
• From what would the Sun produce its energy (sunlight)?
• What would cause atomic bombs to explode?

How was matter created exactly in those events, Einstein?

So matter wasn't created? By some god? From "nothing"? Is that your new theory?

Anyone else? These questions apply equally well to anyone interested in defending the applicable modern physics doctrine..

Way to change subjects. Nice.

 

[Grumblenuts]

I seriously can't wait for Catman51 Grumblenuts and harmonica to darwinize themselves out of existence.

Having a sad day?
Ahh, poor baby
There, there now

Personally, t avoid Ding's idiocy I have put him on ignore. Much easier to avoid his moronic statements.

I don't ignore anyone. Has just never been my style. But more power to ya if that works for you

 

[LittleNipper]

The fact is that scientists have NOT been unable to create biological life given all their degrees and trial and error. Yet you would believe that somehow "Mother Nature" discovered the way arbitrarily on a barren planet. The fact is that without the wisdom of the Bible, man is heading down a hell hole and people are not more mature or good natured. The fact is that there is plenty of historical evidence regarding the truth of the Bible and archaeology is constantly discovering how correct the Bible actually is in every way. This of course annoys certain groups of people who think life should be all about them.

Scientists have never seen an electron but we use them every second of every day.

You say God created life without evolution but no one has ever seen it happen. There has never been a case of God creating life from non-living material. New species are constantly being created but we've never seen God do it. Why?

There is a lot of history in the Bible but there is even more history left out. Why are things like ice ages, the disappearance of the Mediterranean Sea, and the existence of people in the Americas not even a footnote?

The Bible in Genesis clearly say (whether you wish to accept it or not) that ADAM was created from the dust of the earth. Sorry, but as to NEW species, again I must beg to differ. There are no new species presently appearing. Yes, there are new variations and breeds of existing species; however, dogs are still dogs --- cats are still cats ---- horses are still horses, and viruses remain viruses. I believe the Bible does reveal many things, but not as some accept it. The ice age was more than likely a climax to the FLOOD of Noah and has been misunderstood by those who have no wish to even consider that the FLOOD actually occurred. Atheists would have a very difficult time if the Deluge was incorporated into our now secular theories of geography. The next step would be to admit that GOD did it... The Bible is primarily a book regarding the MESSIAH and why HE needed to come and HIS arrival through a Chosen People known eventually as the JEWS. It isn't about the Americas. It isn't about the moon and other planets. It is about the Son of GOD coming to earth in human form to the tiny nation of Israel to die for the sins of the world.

 

[LittleNipper]

JAG Writes:
~ Regarding John Atheist ~
~ Introductory Remarks ~
John Atheist,
You do desire to live a heroic life and to be remembered
for your good deeds, don't you? I think you do.
You have lived your life to help others, haven't you? Yes,
you most likely have.
You have lived by the Golden Rule that says do unto
others as you would have them do unto you, haven't
you? Yes, you probably have lived that way.
But on your atheism let us assume that you die and
cease to exist forever --- here is a short piece I wrote
about this atheistic cease-to-exist sadness.

A Monument To John Atheist
by JAG
Let us say that your risked your life to save 3000 people that
were stranded in a dangerous storm and in so doing you lost
a leg, but you were successful in rescuing them and the "powers
that be" gave you a medal for your heroic action and later a
grateful nation erected a statue of John Atheist and it stood
for 500 years.

That would matter to YOU in the short term, but not in the
long term. On your atheism there would come a time when
John Atheist ceased to exist -- and became this 00000

If John Atheist does Cease-To-Exist, then in the long
term it would not matter to YOU that you had acted
heroically to save the lives of other human beings.

If some humans remembered you for 5000 years it would
NOT matter to YOU because you Ceased-To-Exist and
had become this 00000.

So what point am I making? Answer: You need spiritual
tools to arrive at what really matters.
John 3:16
{1) believe and get Eternal Life
{2} refuse to believe and "perish"

John Atheist now has Eternal Life , , , ,

Here on this spiritual ground your heroic action would
matter for all Eternity. It would be FOREVER in your mind
that you had performed a noble heroic action that helped
other people at great cost to you. It would be known by untold
billions of human beings who were sharing Eternal Life with you.
It would matter to YOU and to THEM . . . FOREVER.

Now why on Earth, would that NOT appeal to you?
Why would you NOT desire to be known forever.
And remembered forever by large numbers of
people that YOU had personally helped by living a
noble heroic life?

Why does it not make you very sad to think that all
your past noble heroic acts will be reduced to 00000
and will never be remembered by you?

JAG

We don't think it's an option for anyone. The flip side is we don't have to worry about going to hell either.

there is no hell--so no one has to worry about that
hahahahahhahaha

How do you know? Who informed you? What will be the ramifications if you are wrong?

What if you are wrong? What if you will suffer, because you believe in the wrong god?

The Wrong GOD? Do you refer to the gods of the Mormons? The god of the Koran? The godless Buddhists? The many animal gods of the Hindi, or one's ancestor worship? Please elaborate...

..all religions are made up by man = fake = not real

Including evolution? Or do you exclude evolution because you believe it to 100% true and comes from individuals who never lie, cheat, or steal ------- And are certainly not prideful ------ ever...

silly silly silly
1. I don't believe it's 100% true
2. it's not a religion---hahahahahah
3. it's based on evidence/etc--which religions are not
4. prideful---???!!! hahahahhah what?
5.. it's a theory, at least--not ''god did it'''

Evolution is a cult, based on the faulty interpretation of partial evidence. Since GOD can do it why exclude HIM to concoct an alternative. Christianity is founded on factual historic data, and encouraged observation, investigation and repeatable research.

Evolution is a cult? That’s strange because biological evolution is among the best supported theories in science. I guess you believe there is some worldwide conspiracy?

Your comment about Christianity is odd because the facts are otherwise. Christianity held back science and investigation for 800 years during the Dark Ages.

I’ve noticed there is a certain breed of really, really angry Christianity.

A cult is a group that excludes and demeans those who have other opinions... Christianity created the colleges and universities that atheists basically stole. The dark ages was primarily caused by the abduction of Christianity by the Papist world government view, that ended with the PROTESTANT REFORMATION on the heals or the Gutenberg Bible ---- when people once again began to read the Bible for themselves and it wasn't "interpreted" by the ROMAN CLERGY.

the christians exclude and demean those who have other opinions
christians TORTURED people for not believing what they do
..they denigrated Galileo for believing the TRUTH!!

ROMAN Catholic ---- not CHRISTIAN. Sure, I disagree with you; however, I'm not out to insult nor harm you. I simply feel that you are wrong and that others need to see that yours in not the only opinion.

..the Roman Catholics are not christians? !!!!!???

Ask a person what they are. When I was in school, most of my classmates were Catholic. They were Italians and Polish. They mostly attended Saint Pete's or Saint Kashmir in the town I resided. I want to a small community church and would talk to my friends about Jesus and the Bible. I found that 100% of the time one of them would say something like, "So, you're a Christian --- Well, I'm a Roman Catholic. We are not the same." I don't believe that Peter was the first pope. I don't even believe that Peter was ever in Rome, not that any of that really matters with regards to salvation. I certainly do believe there are Christians among the Roman Catholics. I however believe that JESUS saves those that have faith in HIM and HIM alone no matter what other trivia one may encumber himself with (Mother Mary, the saints, the pope, transubstantiation, confession, Immaculate Conception, indulgences). The problem arises when all the trivial religious paraphernalia overshadows a personal commitment with the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[LittleNipper]

I think you need to answer MY question first --

Answer: No. I am not just atheist, i am actually glad that celestial dcitators almost certainly do not exist.

So, back to my question:

What if you are wrong, and you are going to suffer.for eternity for your error?

For someone who loooves asking everyone this question, you sure seem to be having a hard time with it. What gives?

If (and that is if), the Bible is wrong and Jesus never arose from the grave, etc., etc., etc... Then I will surely go to hell. Just about every religion that ever existed speaks of a place of torment for those who do not go paradise or whatever else it may be labeled. Hades (or some other such place) is where people go who were not good enough. I certainly believe I'm in need of a Savior and without one I would be LOST for all eternity.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Well, no Jesus ever "arose" but there's certainly no actual hell either, so relax.

 

[Grumblenuts]

There are no new species presently appearing. Yes, there are new variations and breeds of existing species; however, dogs are still dogs --- cats are still cats ---- horses are still horses, and viruses remain viruses.

Okay, let's just look at cats then.

Notice the great variation and them being listed as "species"

Here's just one species of cat

Felidae is a family of mammals in the order Carnivora, colloquially referred to as cats, and constitutes a clade. A member of this family is also called a felid. The term "cat" refers both to felids in general and specifically to the domestic cat (Felis catus).

Many cats have gone extinct while at least one suspected new species has recently appeared.

There are 38 species of cats on the planet. Most, like the margay, are relatively small. But some—the lion, tiger, leopard, snow leopard, clouded leopard, jaguar, lynx, and cheetah—are big. These big cats are among the most beloved and recognizable animals on the planet.

Check out the link for a nice slideshow. There are lions and then there are tigers. Oh my.

 

[alang1216]

The Bible in Genesis clearly say (whether you wish to accept it or not) that ADAM was created from the dust of the earth. Sorry, but as to NEW species, again I must beg to differ. There are no new species presently appearing. Yes, there are new variations and breeds of existing species; however, dogs are still dogs --- cats are still cats ---- horses are still horses, and viruses remain viruses.

If you look, you can see with your own eyes that is not true. The fossil record is unambiguous on this. If you dig deep enough you will find fossils of dinos but in those fossils you will never find primates or most of the mammals we see around us today. At the time of the dinos, those species did not exist. Where did they come from?

I believe the Bible does reveal many things, but not as some accept it. The ice age was more than likely a climax to the FLOOD of Noah and has been misunderstood by those who have no wish to even consider that the FLOOD actually occurred. Atheists would have a very difficult time if the Deluge was incorporated into our now secular theories of geography. The next step would be to admit that GOD did it...

You have it backwards. It was accepted by most people in the West that the Flood was an historical event. However, as science progressed it became obvious that there was no evidence for a global flood but there was evidence for ice ages. It wasn't atheists that refused to accept the Flood, it was theists who looked at the world who refused to accept the Flood.

The Bible is primarily a book regarding the MESSIAH and why HE needed to come and HIS arrival through a Chosen People known eventually as the JEWS. It isn't about the Americas. It isn't about the moon and other planets. It is about the Son of GOD coming to earth in human form to the tiny nation of Israel to die for the sins of the world.

In the KJV, the Old Testament contains 593 pages and the New Testament has 183 pages. The Jesus story is a postscript to the story of the Jews.

 

[Taz]

Whites justified slavery as a way to save the soul of the non-believers which then morphed into if the person being enslaved came from an area that wasn't naturally christian---then focused on skin color.

Do you have any proof of this?

Says the guy who never offers up any real proof.

Prove it.

Any post of yours, they all have NO proof, only your made up shit.

Prove it. Show me they have no proof. Link to one.

Anything about the BB popping out of nowhere.

You are a moron. It's accepted science, dummy. Just go to CERN.

CERN isn't about the universe popping out of nothing, they're smashing shit together to see what's inside. See? This is what I'm talking about, your so called proof isn't proof of anything, except that you don't know how to prove something.

No. CERN says the universe was created, dummy.

That the atoms in your body are 14 billion years old.

So the universe was created, and CERN doesn't say that it's by a magic invisible guy who poofs everything into existence from nothing.

CERN says it was created from nothing.

You can't say God didn't create it.

I can say God did create it.

Link me to the exact page and quote that proves that from CERN. I bet you can't.

I’ve linked it to you dozens of times, dummy.

It’s ok if you want to be a science denier, Taz.

You always link to the general CERN site. I'm saying quote the part where they say that the universe popped into being from nothing, and put the link to the page. You can't expect me to search through the whole site, do you?

I always link to the page that talks about the big bang and starts off asking the question did you know that the atoms in your body were 14 billion years old?

I think you need to face the reality that the Big Bang is the creation of the universe from nothing. The atoms in your body are 14 billion years old, dummy, not infinite in age.

I know you and every other atheist who posts here is offended by this reality because it literally shakes the foundation of your beliefs. But there it is. That's how it is.

"the Big Bang is the creation of the universe from nothing" You never provided a link. You just keep repeating CERN! CERN! CERN! When that's not even what CERN is about.

And the atoms in my body aren't 14 billion years old, it took a while before the heavier elements were formed. The BB was just hydrogen.

The Conservation of energy/mass say your atoms are 14 billion years old, dummy. All energy and matter started off as sub atomic particles, since that time they have only changed form. Learn some science.

I've given you the link dozens of times, Taz. And this is your stupid response every time.

You give me a general CERN link, never one specific to your point. Go ahead, one last time. You'll see.

I'd rather you keep arguing that the universe wasn't created ~14 billion years ago, Taz.

It shows everyone how stupid you are acting.

See? You can't provide the link and then call me stupid. What? No declaring victory?

Your concession is duly noted.

The only thing I will concede is that you and mumblenuts are idiots.

Last change you fartsmoker, post a link to something relevant to the universe popping into being out of nothing or forever be the king of fartsmoking.

 

[Taz]

Taz Grumblenuts alang1216

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