Putin Agrees To Trump’s Peace Plan, Squashing Media’s ‘Puppet’ Narrative

Nope. It is being addressed.
How many carthels you've already eliminated since Trump's in office?
May I ask where exactly are you from?

Time to cut your losses.
No. Attempt to "cut losses" now, the way you suggested, will just cause much more serious loses in the very nearest future.
And no, Russia is saving more people than losing (say nothing about territories with useful resources).
 
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How many carthels you've already eliminated since Trump's in office?

That is not the cure that is needed.


May I ask where exactly are you from?

Rust belt.


No. Attempt to "cut losses" now, the way you suggested, will just cause much more serious loses in the very nearest future.
And no, Russia is saving more people than losing (say nothing about territories with useful resources).

We shall see.
 
The choice in the last election was Harris, who's policy was just keep the aid flowing and bleed russia, or Trump who would try for peace.

IF Putin refuses to deal with Trump, and thus the status quo continues, ie the aid flows and russia bleeds, then we are pretty much in an identifical situation as we were under biden and would have been under harris.

So, why the whining from the left about this?

IF it stays like this, this prove you right. PUtin was not ready to cut a deal, and you get what you want, ie russia keeps bleeding.


So, you should be happy with this outcome. It is what you wanted.


BUT, you are not. WHY?
Harris isn't irrational hater of Russia, and Trump isn't irrational lover of Russia. Both of them acts for some more or less rationan (from their point of view) reasons. Actually, most of their decision-makers are the same people in the both teams.
Both prefer "US conventional defeat in Ukraine" to "Nuclear war with Russia (with little chances to win and survive)". And as Russia prefers the option "Nuclear war with the USA (with good chances to win)" to "conventional defeat in Ukraine", it means that Russia can win simply by escalation.

Both sides know that Russia will win. The only question what price will pay all sides during conflict.

All sides want to pay less, and take more.
 
The only cure more or less effective for them is few grams of lead introcranially.

I disagree. The real issue is a society that completely celebrated everyone EXCEPT normal white males, for being different from us, and the more they were different from us. And crafted ALL policy to benefit "traditionally disadvantaged groups", at our expense.

ALL of that is being targetted.

Nice place. I've heard its not that rust nowadays, is it true?

To a great extent we have adjusted to deindustrialization. But to a great extent we still suffer from generations of policy that was aimed to help others at our expense. That is finally, FINALLY being addressed.

Ok. We'll see.

Agreed. I hope for the best.
 
Harris isn't irrational hater of Russia, and Trump isn't irrational lover of Russia. Both of them acts for some more or less rationan (from their point of view) reasons. Actually, most of their decision-makers are the same people in the both teams.
Both prefer "US conventional defeat in Ukraine" to "Nuclear war with Russia (with little chances to win and survive)". And as Russia prefers the option "Nuclear war with the USA (with good chances to win)" to "conventional defeat in Ukraine", it means that Russia can win simply by escalation.

Both sides know that Russia will win. The only question what price will pay all sides during conflict.

All sides want to pay less, and take more.


I think you give harris and her ilk a bit too much credit.

They really don't get the scale of russia and think of it, as some small third world country that they can easily push around. I've dealt with leftards like harris, who thought we enforce no fly zones against russian forces with no serious issues.

Thus, I don't think that they really include "defeat" or "nuclear war" in their calculations. Indeed, their calculations are based solely on the domestic political factors of the conflict, with very little consideration of the MILITARY risks.


And you give Trump a bit to little. Trump doesn't see russia as an inherent enemy, and wants to see the dying stop, for the benefit of the humans dying on the RUSSIAN side too.
 
What people want is for Russia to home.
Why don't you go home? To Europe, Africa, Asia, or wherever you and your ancestors came from.
What? Have you lived here too long? Russians have lived in Ukraine longer than the US and even the English colonies in place of the US have existed. So occupy your propaganda-washed brain with something useful and leave the events in Ukraine to those who are directly affected.
 

Putin Agrees To Trump’s Peace Plan, Squashing Media’s ‘Puppet’ Narrative

13 Mar 2025 ~~ By Chris Powell

On Thursday Russian President Vladimir Putin expressed tentative support for U.S. President Donald Trump’s proposal for a 30-day ceasefire in Ukraine. This comes amid ongoing negotiations aimed at resolving the conflict that has persisted since Russia’s invasion in 2022.
During a news conference at the Kremlin alongside Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, Putin acknowledged Russia’s agreement “in principle” to the U.S.-proposed ceasefire. However, he stressed the necessity of addressing the “root causes” of the crisis to ensure a lasting peace.
Putin stated that several details need to be sorted out before finalizing the ceasefire agreement. “The idea [of a ceasefire] itself is correct and we are certainly supporting it, but there are issues that need to be discussed,” he said, according to an NBC translation.
“I think that we need to talk to our American colleagues and partners. Maybe call President Trump and discuss it together.”
“But we support the very idea of ending this conflict through peaceful means.” Putin added that any deal must “proceed from the fact that this cessation should be such that it would lead to long-term peace and eliminate the root causes of this crisis.”
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On Tuesday, Zelenskyy agreed to a U.S.-proposed 30-day ceasefire with Russia, aiming to halt the ongoing conflict that began in 2022. The decision followed extensive discussions between U.S. and Ukrainian officials in Saudi Arabia. In response, the United States resumed military aid and intelligence sharing with Ukraine.
President Trump, who has been vocal about his intentions to broker peace in the region, expressed his optimism regarding Russia’s response to the ceasefire proposal. Following discussions with NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte, Trump conveyed his hope that Russia would “do the right thing” in response to the ceasefire initiative.
Reuters reported that Trump described Putin’s statement as “very promising” but “not complete.” He also expressed willingness to speak with the Russian president to secure a ceasefire.


Zelenskyy addressed the 30-day ceasefire plan on Telegram, stating, “Ukraine accepts this proposal, we consider it positive, we are ready to take this step. The United States of America needs to convince Russia to do so.”
“We agree, and if the Russians agree, the silence will take effect at that very moment,” he continued. “An important element in today’s discussions is America’s readiness to restore defense assistance to Ukraine and intelligence support.”
“Ukraine is ready for peace,” Zelenskyy wrote. “Russia must also show whether it is ready to end the war — or continue it. The time has come for the whole truth. I thank everyone who helps Ukraine.”


Commentary:
The Quisling Media hates Trump. They’ll blame him no matter what occurs. If there’s peace, they’ll say he gave too much away, if there’s war they’ll say it was his fault. Surely you know how the press functions by now, right?
He did not agree to an immediate unconditional ceasefire.
The terms of the peace deal have yet to be discussed. We know what Putin’s terms are. He’s told us over and over. However, it's a first step in the long journey toward peace for Europe..
Russia will delay and try to capture Kursk. This war needs to end....
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This is a lie. Poootin wants blood from trump and he will probably get....Ukraine's blood.
 

Putin Agrees To Trump’s Peace Plan, Squashing Media’s ‘Puppet’ Narrative

13 Mar 2025 ~~ By Chris Powell

On Thursday Russian President Vladimir Putin expressed tentative support for U.S. President Donald Trump’s proposal for a 30-day ceasefire in Ukraine. This comes amid ongoing negotiations aimed at resolving the conflict that has persisted since Russia’s invasion in 2022.
During a news conference at the Kremlin alongside Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, Putin acknowledged Russia’s agreement “in principle” to the U.S.-proposed ceasefire. However, he stressed the necessity of addressing the “root causes” of the crisis to ensure a lasting peace.
Putin stated that several details need to be sorted out before finalizing the ceasefire agreement. “The idea [of a ceasefire] itself is correct and we are certainly supporting it, but there are issues that need to be discussed,” he said, according to an NBC translation.
“I think that we need to talk to our American colleagues and partners. Maybe call President Trump and discuss it together.”
“But we support the very idea of ending this conflict through peaceful means.” Putin added that any deal must “proceed from the fact that this cessation should be such that it would lead to long-term peace and eliminate the root causes of this crisis.”
~Snip~
On Tuesday, Zelenskyy agreed to a U.S.-proposed 30-day ceasefire with Russia, aiming to halt the ongoing conflict that began in 2022. The decision followed extensive discussions between U.S. and Ukrainian officials in Saudi Arabia. In response, the United States resumed military aid and intelligence sharing with Ukraine.
President Trump, who has been vocal about his intentions to broker peace in the region, expressed his optimism regarding Russia’s response to the ceasefire proposal. Following discussions with NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte, Trump conveyed his hope that Russia would “do the right thing” in response to the ceasefire initiative.
Reuters reported that Trump described Putin’s statement as “very promising” but “not complete.” He also expressed willingness to speak with the Russian president to secure a ceasefire.


Zelenskyy addressed the 30-day ceasefire plan on Telegram, stating, “Ukraine accepts this proposal, we consider it positive, we are ready to take this step. The United States of America needs to convince Russia to do so.”
“We agree, and if the Russians agree, the silence will take effect at that very moment,” he continued. “An important element in today’s discussions is America’s readiness to restore defense assistance to Ukraine and intelligence support.”
“Ukraine is ready for peace,” Zelenskyy wrote. “Russia must also show whether it is ready to end the war — or continue it. The time has come for the whole truth. I thank everyone who helps Ukraine.”


Commentary:
The Quisling Media hates Trump. They’ll blame him no matter what occurs. If there’s peace, they’ll say he gave too much away, if there’s war they’ll say it was his fault. Surely you know how the press functions by now, right?
He did not agree to an immediate unconditional ceasefire.
The terms of the peace deal have yet to be discussed. We know what Putin’s terms are. He’s told us over and over. However, it's a first step in the long journey toward peace for Europe..
Russia will delay and try to capture Kursk. This war needs to end....
Read more:
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Poootin is playing trump like a fiddle. He is so easy.
 
I think you give harris and her ilk a bit too much credit.
Its not about me. Its about half of your country.
They really don't get the scale of russia and think of it, as some small third world country that they can easily push around. I've dealt with leftards like harris, who thought we enforce no fly zones against russian forces with no serious issues.

Thus, I don't think that they really include "defeat" or "nuclear war" in their calculations. Indeed, their calculations are based solely on the domestic political factors of the conflict, with very little consideration of the MILITARY risks.
Actually, they do. Like, say, Obama's team did about situation in Estonia.

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And you give Trump a bit to little. Trump doesn't see russia as an inherent enemy, and wants to see the dying stop, for the benefit of the humans dying on the RUSSIAN side too.
And it is just an empty rhetoric.
 
Its not about me. Its about half of your country.

That was a dumb dodge. I wasn't attacking you. Nor trying to let the half of America that, yes, agreed with you on that, off the hook for their stupidity.


My point stands. The dems are stupid when it comes to understanding the actual military situation as it really is. They are being driven not by reality but by partisan politics.


Actually, they do. Like, say, Obama's team did about situation in Estonia.

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i have no idea what your point there was. You should have used your words. Include your graphic if you want, but explain it. And your point.


And it is just an empty rhetoric.

Nope. We are serious. We want to end this conflict and we want peace.
 
That was a dumb dodge. I wasn't attacking you. Nor trying to let the half of America that, yes, agreed with you on that, off the hook for their stupidity.


My point stands. The dems are stupid when it comes to understanding the actual military situation as it really is. They are being driven not by reality but by partisan politics.
I don't say that the Dems are brilliant. I just say that Republicans are not much brighter.
i have no idea what your point there was. You should have used your words. Include your graphic if you want, but explain it. And your point.
My point is, that Democrats know about possibility of the nuclear war, try to avoid it, and their support of Ukraine is not about winning the war, they more or less understand that it is impossible, but about creating for Russia some limited problems.

Nope. We are serious. We want to end this conflict and we want peace.
What kind of peace do you want? The peace of equal rights and equal safety, or the peace in which Banderlogs have right to kill Russian people (and the Russians have no rights to fight back) and NATO have right to deploy IRBMs in Eastern Europe? If latter - you actually, don't want peace.
 
I think Trump is trying to sell Putin the favor of not having a skunk under Putin's door, while at the same time trying to cut his own costs of feeding the skunk.
So if the skunk eats at the expense of the Eurogays, while continuing to stink under Russia's door, Trump will be fine with that, and Trump will not punish the skunk, who pooped on Putin's door.
 
I don't say that the Dems are brilliant. I just say that Republicans are not much brighter.

We know that Russia is not a small third world country that we can easily push around. The dems don't know that. As I pointed out.

My point is, that Democrats know about possibility of the nuclear war, try to avoid it, and their support of Ukraine is not about winning the war, they more or less understand that it is impossible, but about creating for Russia some limited problems.

Have you read the nonsense the dems post here? THey constantly harp on the idea of Putin withdrawing from all ukrainian territories as a precondition for TALKING.

They are idiots with no understanding of anything.




What kind of peace do you want? The peace of equal rights and equal safety, or the peace in which Banderlogs have right to kill Russian people (and the Russians have no rights to fight back) and NATO have right to deploy IRBMs in Eastern Europe? If latter - you actually, don't want peace.

I think that putin wanting protection for ethic russians is a reasonable demand. Not wanting nato forces is also reasonable.
 
We know that Russia is not a small third world country that we can easily push around. The dems don't know that. As I pointed out.
But the Republicans also act as if they can push Russia. Like they continue supply Ukrainian forces with weapons and information.

Have you read the nonsense the dems post here? THey constantly harp on the idea of Putin withdrawing from all ukrainian territories as a precondition for TALKING.
Talking is cheap. We can talk, but while there is no difference in actions its all meaningless.

They are idiots with no understanding of anything.
As if Republican actions are somehow different.

I think that putin wanting protection for ethic russians is a reasonable demand. Not wanting nato forces is also reasonable.
May be, its really what do you think. But is this a part of Republican understanding? Understanding, leading into actions? I don't think so.
 
But the Republicans also act as if they can push Russia. Like they continue supply Ukrainian forces with weapons and information.

We are careful to not escalate. And we WANT to wind it down, not just keep it going.


Talking is cheap. We can talk, but while there is no difference in actions its all meaningless.

We were discussing what that showed about how the dems think. By "Forgetting" that, you got to dodge the point, while still posting something irrelevant.

Not a good look there.



As if Republican actions are somehow different.

Yep. Clearly.


May be, its really what do you think. But is this a part of Republican understanding? Understanding, leading into actions? I don't think so.

If Putin comes to the table, Trump will show you and offer a reasonable deal.
 
We are careful to not escalate. And we WANT to wind it down, not just keep it going.
Actually, it was Trump, who escalated situation back in 2021, by giving Ukraine ATGMS and sending in Ukrainian airspace US strategic bombers.
And Biden administration also tried not to cross the line (at until the time of giving up the office).
We were discussing what that showed about how the dems think. By "Forgetting" that, you got to dodge the point, while still posting something irrelevant.
I don't know what do both Republicans and Democrats think. I, actually, doesn't even much about what they say. What I actually care, is what are they doing.

If Putin comes to the table, Trump will show you and offer a reasonable deal.
I very doubt that he can even suggest anything really reasonable, but anyway, can he ensure the fulfillment of these agreements? The very morning after Putin-Trump agreement about restrictions of air strikes on the objects of energy infrastructure - Ukrainains have had attack exectly them, and the Germans said that all those agreements are meaningless and null.
If you can't control them (Ukrainians and Germans) you shouldn't defend them. That's all.
 
After the conversation between Putin and Trump, the U.S. media began to recognize that what Russian propaganda had been lying about for years turned out to be true.
About the provocations by nationalists on Maidan, about Zelensky choosing the path of war, and about the West adding fuel to the fire by supplying weapons.
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Actually, it was Trump, who escalated situation back in 2021, by giving Ukraine ATGMS and sending in Ukrainian airspace US strategic bombers.
And Biden administration also tried not to cross the line (at until the time of giving up the office).

I'm sure he had a good reason.

I don't know what do both Republicans and Democrats think. I, actually, doesn't even much about what they say. What I actually care, is what are they doing.

If you didn't want to engage in discussion, you should have just said so.


I very doubt that he can even suggest anything really reasonable, but anyway, can he ensure the fulfillment of these agreements? The very morning after Putin-Trump agreement about restrictions of air strikes on the objects of energy infrastructure - Ukrainains have had attack exectly them, and the Germans said that all those agreements are meaningless and null.
If you can't control them (Ukrainians and Germans) you shouldn't defend them. That's all.

Of course. Super easy.
 
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