Putin Agrees To Trump’s Peace Plan, Squashing Media’s ‘Puppet’ Narrative

[Zavulon]

I'm sure he had a good reason.

The pretty same, I believe, that have Trump. He didn't want a nuclear war.

If you didn't want to engage in discussion, you should have just said so.

I like to talk. But I do understand that both our talks at USMB and Putin-Trump talks at phone, hardly can change a thing.
That's all. Let's just be realistic.

 

[Correll]

The pretty same, I believe, that have Trump. He didn't want a nuclear war.

I like to talk. But I do understand that both our talks at USMB and Putin-Trump talks at phone, hardly can change a thing.
That's all. Let's just be realistic.

Trump is moving forward with his peace... deal. Putin is going to get on board. Sooner rather than later.

 

[Zavulon]

Trump is moving forward with his peace... deal.

"Peace deal" to Russian ear sounds like "Pizdel" - "He lied". Just said.

Putin is going to get on board. Sooner rather than later.

I doubt it.

 

[Correll]

"Peace deal" to Russian ear sounds like "Pizdel" - "He lied". Just said.



I doubt it.

Sooner, rather than later.

 

[Zavulon]

Sooner, rather than later.

Any bet?

 

[Correll]

Any bet?

Sure. I bet you that by... within... no... by the time the "partial ceasefire" ends, that Trump and Putin will have a full ceasefire or sometthign like it, that will effectively end fighting.


THere might still be further negotiations, but that will be the effective end of the war.

 

[Zavulon]

Sure. I bet you that by... within... no... by the time the "partial ceasefire" ends, that Trump and Putin will have a full ceasefire or sometthign like it, that will effectively end fighting.


THere might still be further negotiations, but that will be the effective end of the war.

My bet, that Ukrainians, backed by EU (first of all be Germany and France) will say F#ck you to Trump, and continue their attacks against energy infrastructure, effectively cancelled "partial ceasefire" in less than two weeks, or will use the sites of energy infrastructure as shelter for ammo depots and forces, which also will effectively cancelled the ceasefire.

 

[Correll]

My bet, that Ukrainians, backed by EU (first of all be Germany and France) will say F#ck you to Trump, and continue their attacks against energy infrastructure, effectively cancelled "partial ceasefire" in less than two weeks, or will use the sites of energy infrastructure as shelter for ammo depots and forces, which also will effectively cancelled the ceasefire.

But, even if that happened, and the ukrainians were taken to task for that, that doesn't mean that after that that they wouldn't be ready to cave and accept terms.

 

[Zavulon]

But, even if that happened, and the ukrainians were taken to task for that, that doesn't mean that after that that they wouldn't be ready to cave and accept terms.

Man, you are going to repeat the story with Minsk agreements. Or at least you try to play this game once more. And this game will be finished by the same way (but on the higher level of violence) as were finished Minsk agreements. Russia will nuke English, French, and, may be, American nuclear sites.

 

[Correll]

Man, you are going to repeat the story with Minsk agreements. Or at least you try to play this game once more. And this game will be finished by the same way (but on the higher level of violence) as were finished Minsk agreements. Russia will nuke English, French, and, may be, American nuclear sites.

To be clear, my HOPE is that if the ukrainians do break the rules that Trump will not support them in that.


Do recall that when Zelenski got uppity in the oval office, Trump cut the aid and Zelenski came to his senses nice and quick.


Zelenski was talking to dems who filled his head with a lot of nonsense about doing shit and never being called on it.


That's the old rules that dems used to play by. Things are different now.

 

[Zavulon]

To be clear, my HOPE is that if the ukrainians do break the rules that Trump will not support them in that.

Ok. Ukrainians already had broke the terms at least twice.

Do recall that when Zelenski got uppity in the oval office, Trump cut the aid and Zelenski came to his senses nice and quick.

No. I recall that Trump made some declarations, but resumed support in no time, without actually signing any rare earth agreements or anything else. Trump say empty words, Ukrainians continue strikes against energy infrastructure, American weapons continue to be delivered to Kievan regime.

Zelenski was talking to dems who filled his head with a lot of nonsense about doing shit and never being called on it.

As far as it's going now, Republicans are not really different.

That's the old rules that dems used to play by. Things are different now.

May be. But I don't see any changes short of rhetoric. And rhetoric is cheap.

 

[Correll]

Ok. Ukrainians already had broke the terms at least twice.


No. I recall that Trump made some declarations, but resumed support in no time, without actually signing any rare earth agreements or anything else. Trump say empty words, Ukrainians continue strikes against energy infrastructure, American weapons continue to be delivered to Kievan regime.

As far as it's going now, Republicans are not really different.


May be. But I don't see any changes short of rhetoric. And rhetoric is cheap.

Then putin should call zelenski's "bluff" and if he refuses to play by the rules then the issue will be between Trump and Zelenski.

 

[Zavulon]

Then putin should call zelenski's "bluff" and if he refuses to play by the rules then the issue will be between Trump and Zelenski.

Lavrov already said it. Ball is in the Trump's court. But if Trump won't do a thing about it, and I bet he won't, Russia will effectively cancel this "partial ceasefire" in less than a few weeks and Russia simply continue elimination of Banderlogs until decisive victory.

 

[Correll]

Lavrov already said it. Ball is in the Trump's court. But if Trump won't do a thing about it, and I bet he won't, Russia will effectively cancel this "partial ceasefire" in less than a few weeks and Russia simply continue elimination of Banderlogs until decisive victory.

I believe the next step is more talking...

 

[Zavulon]

I believe the next step is more talking...

Of course, Trump will continue to speak. But rather sooner than later he'll have to decide - to escalate or to deescalate.

 

[Correll]

Of course, Trump will continue to speak. But rather sooner than later he'll have to decide - to escalate or to deescalate.

OR, both sides reach a deal both sides can live with.

 

[Zavulon]

OR, both sides reach a deal both sides can live with.

The point is, Zelenskiy can't live with peace. Any peace deal means death sentence to him, and he knows it.

 

[Correll]

The point is, Zelenskiy can't live with peace. Any peace deal means death sentence to him, and he knows it.

I don't know that. HOw do you imagine that?

 

[Zavulon]

I don't know that. HOw do you imagine that?

It's quite obvious. He knows too much, he is a Jew, he betrayed "party of peace" when he started the war and refused to stop it back in 2022. Now you suggest him to betray "party of war" and his European masters (and Demparty partners)
Neither Arestovich (Trump's candidate) nor Timoshenko (as far as I know Putin's candidate) won't allow him to live.

 

[Correll]

It's quite obvious. He knows too much, he is a Jew, he betrayed "party of peace" when he started the war and refused to stop it back in 2022. Now you suggest him to betray "party of war" and his European masters (and Demparty partners)
Neither Arestovich (Trump's candidate) nor Timoshenko (as far as I know Putin's candidate) won't allow him to live.

i think the europeans will blame TRUMP and maga for this, not zelenski.

If anyone's life is in danger, it is Trump.

But killing Trump won't stop Trump or maga. It will just make a martyr of him and Vance will lead MAGA even more aggressively to get vengence.