Putin Agrees To Trump’s Peace Plan, Squashing Media’s ‘Puppet’ Narrative

If you're wanting to join in my conversations, you're welcome but you're going to have to improve your game.

I'm happy to start again from here!
I dont want anything from you

I just made a comment

So far there is no actual ceasefire to celibrate
 
Not really interested in old offers that past presidents rejected. Moving forward, hopefully MAGA will be in charge and we will be more reasonable.
New offers will be worse for you.
It is not about them. It is about us putting our house in order. They can help by doing their job on their side of borders and they will or face consequences.
And what "consequences" exactly?

Crude bluster. Not... very impressive. Talk is meaningless when people are dying in the field. YOUR people, not mine. So.... let's end that. I have no desire to see more russians die.

Your people are dying too, and much more is going to die soon.
Sure it is possible. You do the things you say you will do and we do the things we say we will do. If everyone does that, then peace. If not, we can always go back to seeing russsians and ukrainians dying in large numbers.

Ok. To reach lasting and reliable peace, we are going to eliminate Banderlogs, and you should get out of our way.
Take the deal Trump offers. It is the best one you will get.
It's not best. Actually, its not even a peace offer. Leaving twenty million Russian people under control of Nazi oppressive and genocidal regime isn't "peace". There is no dignity nor safety in appeasement of evil.
 
America has no interest in taking crimea. Not taking crimea is not a defeat for us.
America has an interest in using Ukraine to push Russia off the world stage so it can be the one to control and take its breadbasket goodies. Just like Iraqi oil 35 years ago. Different country, same game.
 
New offers will be worse for you.

And what "consequences" exactly?

Don't worry about it. Not your problem. We will deal with our neighbors.

Your people are dying too, and much more is going to die soon.

Not really. And not likely. You failed to conquer ukaine. Putin is not going to put MORE on his plate.


Ok. To reach lasting and reliable peace, we are going to eliminate Banderlogs, and you should get out of our way.

You tried that. You failed. Time to deal with reality and cut your losses.

It's not best. Actually, its not even a peace offer. Leaving twenty million Russian people under control of Nazi oppressive and genocidal regime isn't "peace". There is no dignity nor safety in appeasement of evil.

LOL. Sorry, just remembering cold war, when we had to deal with commies in charge of soviet empire. Sometimes you got to put up with shit you don't like, becuase the war you would need to fight is more than you are willing to pay. Or in your case, CAN pay.
 
America has an interest in using Ukraine to push Russia off the world stage so it can be the one to control and take its breadbasket goodies. Just like Iraqi oil 35 years ago. Different country, same game.

I disagree. I am not willing to spend ukrainian lives to get access to "goodies" or to "push russia off world stage".
 
I disagree. I am not willing to spend ukrainian lives to get access to "goodies" or to "push russia off world stage".
Me either. So why do you say you disagree? That's what our government is doing whether it's what we want or not. And the media grotesquely and shamefully repackages the truth every day when they say we are "helping" Ukraine. Ukraine has been turned into "Target #1" for Russia by the United States. Russia wouldn't put their country at such risk and loss unless they felt they had to to avoid becoming a backward hasbeen of a country.
 
Don't worry about it. Not your problem. We will deal with our neighbors.
Of course no. As you help our neighbours - we help your neighbours. And its quite possible that our dear government will ask me to work, with, say, Los Rusos carthel. Help them to deal with some kind of modern biological weapons, like, say, genetically modificated Kemerovo fever viruses. You know, some of Reoviridae are amazingly nasty little things, and American epidemiologists know very little about them. They are definitely more controllable than, say, Coronaviridae, but anyway, you need a proper network in the target population to control them. Carthels have the network. Other people may have germs. Will they found each other - ok, it depends.

Not really. And not likely. You failed to conquer ukaine. Putin is not going to put MORE on his plate.
It isn't over until its over.

You tried that. You failed. Time to deal with reality and cut your losses.
Of course not. We are just warming up.

LOL. Sorry, just remembering cold war, when we had to deal with commies in charge of soviet empire. Sometimes you got to put up with shit you don't like, becuase the war you would need to fight is more than you are willing to pay. Or in your case, CAN pay.
And, sometimes you need to fight. Thats also in the rules.
 
Of course no. As you help our neighbours - we help your neighbours. And its quite possible that our dear government will ask me to work, with, say, Los Rusos carthel. Help them to deal with some kind of modern biological weapons, like, say, genetically modificated Kemerovo fever viruses. You know, some of Reoviridae are amazingly nasty little things, and American epidemiologists know very little about them. They are definitely more controllable than, say, Coronaviridae, but anyway, you need a proper network in the target population to control them. Carthels have the network. Other people may have germs. Will they found each other - ok, it depends.


If either mexico or canada is dumb enough to team up against US, that is their choice. You are welcome to make them the offer.





It isn't over until its over.


Of course not. We are just warming up.

Tough talk. I expect Putin to drag his feet a bit, to see if the ukaines can be pushed out of kursk, then come to terms.


And, sometimes you need to fight. Thats also in the rules.

Yep. Knowing the difference is called judgement.
 
But you are not an American decision-maker, are you?

MAGA is in charge. Trump appealed to me and mine to gain power and he is representing US and what we want.


So, not directly, but yes, I am the American decision maker. Or his boss.
 
If either mexico or canada is dumb enough to team up against US, that is their choice. You are welcome to make them the offer.
They are already team up against US. You lose 300k young man killed every year. Your price of peace you pay now, is higher than the price of war, payed by Russia. But Russia started the actions, and the USA is just meekly accept loses.
Tough talk. I expect Putin to drag his feet a bit, to see if the ukaines can be pushed out of kursk, then come to terms.
Its not about territory, and never have been.

Yep. Knowing the difference is called judgement.
And, right now we are much closer to an actual and open nuclear war, than in any given time During Cold war (including Cuban Missile Crisis). Exactly because of irresponsibility of the western decision makers.
 
They are already team up against US. You lose 300k young man killed every year. Your price of peace you pay now, is higher than the price of war, payed by Russia. But Russia started the actions, and the USA is just meekly accept loses.

Not any more.


Its not about territory, and never have been.

We shall see. I stand by my prediction.

And, right now we are much closer to an actual and open nuclear war, than in any given time During Cold war (including Cuban Missile Crisis). Exactly because of irresponsibility of the western decision makers.

Perhaps. But we are trying to do better now, and now the ball is in putins court.
 
Not any more.
Short of empty rhetoric, you still meekly pay the price.
We shall see. I stand by my prediction.
"We shall"? Are you a American?
Perhaps. But we are trying to do better now, and now the ball is in putins court.
Of course no. It was Trump who started direct militarisation of Ukraine, and signed the death sentence to Ukrainian state by sending B-52s in their airspace. American politicians don't give a f#ck about Ukraine and Ukrainians. They just use it as a hot potato, throwing it to each other. But, in the difference with potato, Ukraine isn't cooling. It's warming up, and there will be burst soon. You know - BOOOM! Blood and feathers everywhere. Nothing personal, but Trump is still keeping this ticking bomb in his hands (may be because his greed is stronger than his sense of self-preservation or may be because he is not that independent) and it doesn't seems as if he is going to let it go (say nothing about defusing the situation).
 
Short of empty rhetoric, you still meekly pay the price.

Nope. It is being addressed.

"We shall"? Are you a American?

Yes.

Of course no. It was Trump who started direct militarisation of Ukraine, and signed the death sentence to Ukrainian state by sending B-52s in their airspace. American politicians don't give a f#ck about Ukraine and Ukrainians. They just use it as a hot potato, throwing it to each other. But, in the difference with potato, Ukraine isn't cooling. It's warming up, and there will be burst soon. You know - BOOOM! Blood and feathers everywhere. Nothing personal, but Trump is still keeping this ticking bomb in his hands (may be because his greed is stronger than his sense of self-preservation or may be because he is not that independent) and it doesn't seems as if he is going to let it go (say nothing about defusing the situation).

Time to cut your losses.
 
Diplomacy.
  • Russians, do you agree to a truce?
  • Of course we do. We're always in favor of peace.
  • And when?
  • As soon as we decide it's time.
  • And when will you decide?
  • When we realize it's not too soon.
 

Putin Agrees To Trump’s Peace Plan, Squashing Media’s ‘Puppet’ Narrative

13 Mar 2025 ~~ By Chris Powell

On Thursday Russian President Vladimir Putin expressed tentative support for U.S. President Donald Trump’s proposal for a 30-day ceasefire in Ukraine. This comes amid ongoing negotiations aimed at resolving the conflict that has persisted since Russia’s invasion in 2022.
During a news conference at the Kremlin alongside Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, Putin acknowledged Russia’s agreement “in principle” to the U.S.-proposed ceasefire. However, he stressed the necessity of addressing the “root causes” of the crisis to ensure a lasting peace.
Putin stated that several details need to be sorted out before finalizing the ceasefire agreement. “The idea [of a ceasefire] itself is correct and we are certainly supporting it, but there are issues that need to be discussed,” he said, according to an NBC translation.
“I think that we need to talk to our American colleagues and partners. Maybe call President Trump and discuss it together.”
“But we support the very idea of ending this conflict through peaceful means.” Putin added that any deal must “proceed from the fact that this cessation should be such that it would lead to long-term peace and eliminate the root causes of this crisis.”
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On Tuesday, Zelenskyy agreed to a U.S.-proposed 30-day ceasefire with Russia, aiming to halt the ongoing conflict that began in 2022. The decision followed extensive discussions between U.S. and Ukrainian officials in Saudi Arabia. In response, the United States resumed military aid and intelligence sharing with Ukraine.
President Trump, who has been vocal about his intentions to broker peace in the region, expressed his optimism regarding Russia’s response to the ceasefire proposal. Following discussions with NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte, Trump conveyed his hope that Russia would “do the right thing” in response to the ceasefire initiative.
Reuters reported that Trump described Putin’s statement as “very promising” but “not complete.” He also expressed willingness to speak with the Russian president to secure a ceasefire.


Zelenskyy addressed the 30-day ceasefire plan on Telegram, stating, “Ukraine accepts this proposal, we consider it positive, we are ready to take this step. The United States of America needs to convince Russia to do so.”
“We agree, and if the Russians agree, the silence will take effect at that very moment,” he continued. “An important element in today’s discussions is America’s readiness to restore defense assistance to Ukraine and intelligence support.”
“Ukraine is ready for peace,” Zelenskyy wrote. “Russia must also show whether it is ready to end the war — or continue it. The time has come for the whole truth. I thank everyone who helps Ukraine.”


Commentary:
The Quisling Media hates Trump. They’ll blame him no matter what occurs. If there’s peace, they’ll say he gave too much away, if there’s war they’ll say it was his fault. Surely you know how the press functions by now, right?
He did not agree to an immediate unconditional ceasefire.
The terms of the peace deal have yet to be discussed. We know what Putin’s terms are. He’s told us over and over. However, it's a first step in the long journey toward peace for Europe..
Russia will delay and try to capture Kursk. This war needs to end....
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Putin didn't agree to anything.

Pile of shit thread
 
Diplomacy.
  • Russians, do you agree to a truce?
  • Of course we do. We're always in favor of peace.
  • And when?
  • As soon as we decide it's time.
  • And when will you decide?
  • When we realize it's not too soon.


If so, then the aid continues, and russia continues to bleed, just like you wanted.

So, why the whining?
 
Why are you so goddamn stupid?

What people want is for Russia to home.

The choice in the last election was Harris, who's policy was just keep the aid flowing and bleed russia, or Trump who would try for peace.

IF Putin refuses to deal with Trump, and thus the status quo continues, ie the aid flows and russia bleeds, then we are pretty much in an identifical situation as we were under biden and would have been under harris.

So, why the whining from the left about this?

IF it stays like this, this prove you right. PUtin was not ready to cut a deal, and you get what you want, ie russia keeps bleeding.


So, you should be happy with this outcome. It is what you wanted.


BUT, you are not. WHY?
 
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