Puerto Rico Statehood.

[HappyJoy]

The Democrats will give Puerto Rico statehood and have permanent control of the government forever.
"Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely"
They have gotten away with their Russian Collusion scandal, their baseless impeachment scandal, and probably with their Mass Voter Fraud scandal and their Censorship scandal.
Expect more of the same.
One Party countries always devolve into dystopian misery.....aka Biden's "dark winter"

Puerto Rico votes in favor of statehood. But what does it mean for the island? - ABC News (go.com)

Doubutful.

But certainly DC and PR (and the other outlying areas) should have statehood....

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship | U.S. Embassy and Consulate in the Netherlands

A person can become an American citizen in one of two ways: by birth or by naturalization. A person may be born a U.S. citizen by either jus soli, i.e., through place of birth, or jus sanguinis, i.e. through descent from his/her parents. With very few exceptions, most of which have to do with...

nl.usembassy.gov

Its crazy that we have citizens who are not considered citizens of a state.

Take the outlying areas and have them become parts of the current 50 states. Take the 3 electors from DC and get rid of them. DC residents become residents of Maryland (or VA--whichever). Its silly to have an even number of electors as well.

It's not crazy

DC is inside virginia....You can't have a state within a state without the bigger states approval.

Puerto Ricans have never voted in a binary vote for statehood. It is not clear a majority of people on the island support statehood......Merely respecting the democratic process. If Yes would win in a binary vote on statehood republicans could not prevent them. THey'd have to allow them in, as it stands ricans don't vote for statehood and that's why they're not a state

Maybe do some fucking research my god....

What is with all these retards on the left thinking PR want to become a state....? Wishful thinking not backed up by PR voters. I hear this all the time triggers me each time. THe anti racist party not listening to the Brown Ricans when they say they don't want to be a state. lol

You didn't seem to read what I wrote. Maybe do some fucking research.

You said a people who don't want statehood should have it

I did you ignorant ****

Shut up retards, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Just because a talking head told you Ricans want statehood doesn't make it true. Been plenty of votes on the issue. Ricans clearly do not want statehood

DC wants statehood if you believe the polls:

View attachment 422576

Yea now show me virginia's numbers

There are two relevant voting populaces

Virginia and DC

You can't make a state within a state without the larger states approval. I told you that.

Now maybe Virginia supports DC statehood, IDK. But that's the relevant question here. I have no doubt people living in DC want statehood.

Again, you didn't read what I wrote...feel free to do some fucking research...

I am reading what you said

You didn't include relevant information..../

DC needs virginia's approval, they have a democratic process as well. lol

Nah... It needs an amendment. It won't get it.

You don't need an amendment to make a portion of D.C. a state.

I think hes' misinterpreting that states within states aren't allowed

when really it just requries the approval of the state you're cutting away from

Yeah, making D.C. (or at least the portion where people live)_ a state is not creating a state from a state. However the land that was granted for DC came from Maryland and Virginia however Virginia was given it's land back so now you just have Maryland and I doubt they'll have a problem with a 51st (or 52nd) state, nor would Virginia.

I think the challenges would be legal, having to write the bill to make the new state around the 23rd amendment, not impossible but there would be legal challenges and most likely this would end up in the Supreme Court. They're a little bit of an unknown as to how they would react.

The larger hurdle is the senate as it would require the Democrats to win a majority and then kill the filibuster. I could see a couple of the Democrats not going along with this as it could potentially endanger their own powers playing spoiler to a Democratic majority. (Sinema, Manchin)

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The Democrats will give Puerto Rico statehood and have permanent control of the government forever.

Why would that be? All the republicans have to do is make some changes to their platform to get more votes. Simple, right? Democracy....right?

 

[Juicin]

The Democrats will give Puerto Rico statehood and have permanent control of the government forever.
"Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely"
They have gotten away with their Russian Collusion scandal, their baseless impeachment scandal, and probably with their Mass Voter Fraud scandal and their Censorship scandal.
Expect more of the same.
One Party countries always devolve into dystopian misery.....aka Biden's "dark winter"

Puerto Rico votes in favor of statehood. But what does it mean for the island? - ABC News (go.com)

Doubutful.

But certainly DC and PR (and the other outlying areas) should have statehood....

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship | U.S. Embassy and Consulate in the Netherlands

A person can become an American citizen in one of two ways: by birth or by naturalization. A person may be born a U.S. citizen by either jus soli, i.e., through place of birth, or jus sanguinis, i.e. through descent from his/her parents. With very few exceptions, most of which have to do with...

nl.usembassy.gov

Its crazy that we have citizens who are not considered citizens of a state.

Take the outlying areas and have them become parts of the current 50 states. Take the 3 electors from DC and get rid of them. DC residents become residents of Maryland (or VA--whichever). Its silly to have an even number of electors as well.

It's not crazy

DC is inside virginia....You can't have a state within a state without the bigger states approval.

Puerto Ricans have never voted in a binary vote for statehood. It is not clear a majority of people on the island support statehood......Merely respecting the democratic process. If Yes would win in a binary vote on statehood republicans could not prevent them. THey'd have to allow them in, as it stands ricans don't vote for statehood and that's why they're not a state

Maybe do some fucking research my god....

What is with all these retards on the left thinking PR want to become a state....? Wishful thinking not backed up by PR voters. I hear this all the time triggers me each time. THe anti racist party not listening to the Brown Ricans when they say they don't want to be a state. lol

You didn't seem to read what I wrote. Maybe do some fucking research.

You said a people who don't want statehood should have it

I did you ignorant ****

Shut up retards, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Just because a talking head told you Ricans want statehood doesn't make it true. Been plenty of votes on the issue. Ricans clearly do not want statehood

DC wants statehood if you believe the polls:

View attachment 422576

Yea now show me virginia's numbers

There are two relevant voting populaces

Virginia and DC

You can't make a state within a state without the larger states approval. I told you that.

Now maybe Virginia supports DC statehood, IDK. But that's the relevant question here. I have no doubt people living in DC want statehood.

Again, you didn't read what I wrote...feel free to do some fucking research...

I am reading what you said

You didn't include relevant information..../

DC needs virginia's approval, they have a democratic process as well. lol

Nah... It needs an amendment. It won't get it.

You don't need an amendment to make a portion of D.C. a state.

I think hes' misinterpreting that states within states aren't allowed

when really it just requries the approval of the state you're cutting away from

Yeah, making D.C. (or at least the portion where people live)_ a state is not creating a state from a state. However the land that was granted for DC came from Maryland and Virginia however Virginia was given it's land back so now you just have Maryland and I doubt they'll have a problem with a 51st (or 52nd) state, nor would Virginia.

I think the challenges would be legal, having to write the bill to make the new state around the 23rd amendment, not impossible but there would be legal challenges and most likely this would end up in the Supreme Court. They're a little bit of an unknown as to how they would react.

The larger hurdle is the senate as it would require the Democrats to win a majority and then kill the filibuster. I could see a couple of the Democrats not going along with this as it could potentially endanger their own powers playing spoiler to a Democratic majority. (Sinema, Manchin)

Huh interesting i didn't know that about maryland having a claim as well

 

[22lcidw]

The Democrats will give Puerto Rico statehood and have permanent control of the government forever.
"Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely"
They have gotten away with their Russian Collusion scandal, their baseless impeachment scandal, and probably with their Mass Voter Fraud scandal and their Censorship scandal.
Expect more of the same.
One Party countries always devolve into dystopian misery.....aka Biden's "dark winter"

Puerto Rico votes in favor of statehood. But what does it mean for the island? - ABC News (go.com)

Doubutful.

But certainly DC and PR (and the other outlying areas) should have statehood....

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship | U.S. Embassy and Consulate in the Netherlands

A person can become an American citizen in one of two ways: by birth or by naturalization. A person may be born a U.S. citizen by either jus soli, i.e., through place of birth, or jus sanguinis, i.e. through descent from his/her parents. With very few exceptions, most of which have to do with...

nl.usembassy.gov

Its crazy that we have citizens who are not considered citizens of a state.

Take the outlying areas and have them become parts of the current 50 states. Take the 3 electors from DC and get rid of them. DC residents become residents of Maryland (or VA--whichever). Its silly to have an even number of electors as well.

"Its crazy that we have citizens who are not considered citizens of a state." Lots of people work/live abroad.

Sure. But a Texan who lives in Hong Kong still can call themselves a Texan.

People move around too, so maybe from 4 or 5 states and they don't identify with any, really.

You deserve to live in Cuba

With all the Latin honeys?

We do not want to live with what you are promoting. Tell us how all the islands and central America and South America just to start are going to live like most of us in the United States. Tell us...tell us...tell us.. You can not. Why? I have asked multiple times and not one of you Prog shave given me an answer.

Not sure if you're talking about US Territories or not.... when you mention "all the islands and central America and South America". Really, what are you trying to say?


However, when it comes to DC, Puerto Rico and Guam....If you're born there, you are an American citizen.

I am talking about a true standard of living. With the reality of pulling their weight. There is massive evidence of tens of billions of dollars giving to them with many military bases and other advantages with massive corruption and huge money given for utilities such as electricity and water not used for the purposed designed for. Ph uk u and the American citizen crap.

Again, for some reason, you won't tell us what territory you're talking about. My guess is you're a fucking idiot who doesn't know jack shit.

All the more reason to bring them into a state like FL and have an actual governor, legislature, police force, etc... Essentially turn San Juan into San Pedro.

Puerto Rico citizens as a territory has a far different federal tax situation. They never wanted to be a state because of it. They have also received a hundred billion dollars that is not accounted for of hundreds of billions of dollars. I have little concern with helping people when there is no corruption. All of us. Check the inner cities as a start.

 

[Blaine Sweeter]

The Democrats will give Puerto Rico statehood and have permanent control of the government forever.
"Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely"
They have gotten away with their Russian Collusion scandal, their baseless impeachment scandal, and probably with their Mass Voter Fraud scandal and their Censorship scandal.
Expect more of the same.
One Party countries always devolve into dystopian misery.....aka Biden's "dark winter"

Puerto Rico votes in favor of statehood. But what does it mean for the island? - ABC News (go.com)

Doubutful.

But certainly DC and PR (and the other outlying areas) should have statehood....

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship | U.S. Embassy and Consulate in the Netherlands

A person can become an American citizen in one of two ways: by birth or by naturalization. A person may be born a U.S. citizen by either jus soli, i.e., through place of birth, or jus sanguinis, i.e. through descent from his/her parents. With very few exceptions, most of which have to do with...

nl.usembassy.gov

Its crazy that we have citizens who are not considered citizens of a state.

Take the outlying areas and have them become parts of the current 50 states. Take the 3 electors from DC and get rid of them. DC residents become residents of Maryland (or VA--whichever). Its silly to have an even number of electors as well.

Works for the British Commonwealth!

 

[HappyJoy]

The Democrats will give Puerto Rico statehood and have permanent control of the government forever.
"Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely"
They have gotten away with their Russian Collusion scandal, their baseless impeachment scandal, and probably with their Mass Voter Fraud scandal and their Censorship scandal.
Expect more of the same.
One Party countries always devolve into dystopian misery.....aka Biden's "dark winter"

Puerto Rico votes in favor of statehood. But what does it mean for the island? - ABC News (go.com)

Doubutful.

But certainly DC and PR (and the other outlying areas) should have statehood....

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship | U.S. Embassy and Consulate in the Netherlands

A person can become an American citizen in one of two ways: by birth or by naturalization. A person may be born a U.S. citizen by either jus soli, i.e., through place of birth, or jus sanguinis, i.e. through descent from his/her parents. With very few exceptions, most of which have to do with...

nl.usembassy.gov

Its crazy that we have citizens who are not considered citizens of a state.

Take the outlying areas and have them become parts of the current 50 states. Take the 3 electors from DC and get rid of them. DC residents become residents of Maryland (or VA--whichever). Its silly to have an even number of electors as well.

It's not crazy

DC is inside virginia....You can't have a state within a state without the bigger states approval.

Puerto Ricans have never voted in a binary vote for statehood. It is not clear a majority of people on the island support statehood......Merely respecting the democratic process. If Yes would win in a binary vote on statehood republicans could not prevent them. THey'd have to allow them in, as it stands ricans don't vote for statehood and that's why they're not a state

Maybe do some fucking research my god....

What is with all these retards on the left thinking PR want to become a state....? Wishful thinking not backed up by PR voters. I hear this all the time triggers me each time. THe anti racist party not listening to the Brown Ricans when they say they don't want to be a state. lol

You didn't seem to read what I wrote. Maybe do some fucking research.

You said a people who don't want statehood should have it

I did you ignorant ****

Shut up retards, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Just because a talking head told you Ricans want statehood doesn't make it true. Been plenty of votes on the issue. Ricans clearly do not want statehood

DC wants statehood if you believe the polls:

View attachment 422576

Yea now show me virginia's numbers

There are two relevant voting populaces

Virginia and DC

You can't make a state within a state without the larger states approval. I told you that.

Now maybe Virginia supports DC statehood, IDK. But that's the relevant question here. I have no doubt people living in DC want statehood.

Again, you didn't read what I wrote...feel free to do some fucking research...

I am reading what you said

You didn't include relevant information..../

DC needs virginia's approval, they have a democratic process as well. lol

Nah... It needs an amendment. It won't get it.

You don't need an amendment to make a portion of D.C. a state.

Really? I thought you did.

The District of Columbia would still need to exist however the size and location are not coded into the 23rd amendment. My understanding is that it's just required that DC have the same number of electoral votes as the smallest state. So, you simply just for lack of a better saying redistrict the district. So that DC only takes up the federal buildings and the mall. The rest of DC would make up the new state. Then we would have the new state with a full set of representatives, senators and electoral college votes (probably still 3, maybe 4). DC and what's left of it would still retain it's 3 electoral college votes and at this time pretty much the only citizens of DC would be the president and his/her family and maybe some staff. It's at this point that it might be pretty easy to amend the Constitution to strip the electoral college votes from the smaller District of Columbia.

Democrats if/when it's possible should take this route. Fix the issue with lack of representation for the citizens of DC and then solve the constitutional issues that will be crated afterward.

 

[candycorn]

The Democrats will give Puerto Rico statehood and have permanent control of the government forever.
"Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely"
They have gotten away with their Russian Collusion scandal, their baseless impeachment scandal, and probably with their Mass Voter Fraud scandal and their Censorship scandal.
Expect more of the same.
One Party countries always devolve into dystopian misery.....aka Biden's "dark winter"

Puerto Rico votes in favor of statehood. But what does it mean for the island? - ABC News (go.com)

Doubutful.

But certainly DC and PR (and the other outlying areas) should have statehood....

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship | U.S. Embassy and Consulate in the Netherlands

A person can become an American citizen in one of two ways: by birth or by naturalization. A person may be born a U.S. citizen by either jus soli, i.e., through place of birth, or jus sanguinis, i.e. through descent from his/her parents. With very few exceptions, most of which have to do with...

nl.usembassy.gov

Its crazy that we have citizens who are not considered citizens of a state.

Take the outlying areas and have them become parts of the current 50 states. Take the 3 electors from DC and get rid of them. DC residents become residents of Maryland (or VA--whichever). Its silly to have an even number of electors as well.

Works for the British Commonwealth!

I don't know enough about that to comment.

 

[candycorn]

The Democrats will give Puerto Rico statehood and have permanent control of the government forever.
"Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely"
They have gotten away with their Russian Collusion scandal, their baseless impeachment scandal, and probably with their Mass Voter Fraud scandal and their Censorship scandal.
Expect more of the same.
One Party countries always devolve into dystopian misery.....aka Biden's "dark winter"

Puerto Rico votes in favor of statehood. But what does it mean for the island? - ABC News (go.com)

Doubutful.

But certainly DC and PR (and the other outlying areas) should have statehood....

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship | U.S. Embassy and Consulate in the Netherlands

A person can become an American citizen in one of two ways: by birth or by naturalization. A person may be born a U.S. citizen by either jus soli, i.e., through place of birth, or jus sanguinis, i.e. through descent from his/her parents. With very few exceptions, most of which have to do with...

nl.usembassy.gov

Its crazy that we have citizens who are not considered citizens of a state.

Take the outlying areas and have them become parts of the current 50 states. Take the 3 electors from DC and get rid of them. DC residents become residents of Maryland (or VA--whichever). Its silly to have an even number of electors as well.

It's not crazy

DC is inside virginia....You can't have a state within a state without the bigger states approval.

Puerto Ricans have never voted in a binary vote for statehood. It is not clear a majority of people on the island support statehood......Merely respecting the democratic process. If Yes would win in a binary vote on statehood republicans could not prevent them. THey'd have to allow them in, as it stands ricans don't vote for statehood and that's why they're not a state

Maybe do some fucking research my god....

What is with all these retards on the left thinking PR want to become a state....? Wishful thinking not backed up by PR voters. I hear this all the time triggers me each time. THe anti racist party not listening to the Brown Ricans when they say they don't want to be a state. lol

You didn't seem to read what I wrote. Maybe do some fucking research.

You said a people who don't want statehood should have it

I did you ignorant ****

Shut up retards, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Just because a talking head told you Ricans want statehood doesn't make it true. Been plenty of votes on the issue. Ricans clearly do not want statehood

DC wants statehood if you believe the polls:

View attachment 422576

Yea now show me virginia's numbers

There are two relevant voting populaces

Virginia and DC

You can't make a state within a state without the larger states approval. I told you that.

Now maybe Virginia supports DC statehood, IDK. But that's the relevant question here. I have no doubt people living in DC want statehood.

Again, you didn't read what I wrote...feel free to do some fucking research...

I am reading what you said

You didn't include relevant information..../

DC needs virginia's approval, they have a democratic process as well. lol

Nah... It needs an amendment. It won't get it.

You don't need an amendment to make a portion of D.C. a state.

Really? I thought you did.

The District of Columbia would still need to exist however the size and location are not coded into the 23rd amendment. My understanding is that it's just required that DC have the same number of electoral votes as the smallest state. So, you simply just for lack of a better saying redistrict the district. So that DC only takes up the federal buildings and the mall. The rest of DC would make up the new state. Then we would have the new state with a full set of representatives, senators and electoral college votes (probably still 3, maybe 4). DC and what's left of it would still retain it's 3 electoral college votes and at this time pretty much the only citizens of DC would be the president and his/her family and maybe some staff. It's at this point that it might be pretty easy to amend the Constitution to strip the electoral college votes from the smaller District of Columbia.

Democrats if/when it's possible should take this route. Fix the issue with lack of representation for the citizens of DC and then solve the constitutional issues that will be crated afterward.

Seems easier to fold it into Maryland or VA. But whatever.

 

[HappyJoy]

The Democrats will give Puerto Rico statehood and have permanent control of the government forever.
"Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely"
They have gotten away with their Russian Collusion scandal, their baseless impeachment scandal, and probably with their Mass Voter Fraud scandal and their Censorship scandal.
Expect more of the same.
One Party countries always devolve into dystopian misery.....aka Biden's "dark winter"

Puerto Rico votes in favor of statehood. But what does it mean for the island? - ABC News (go.com)

Doubutful.

But certainly DC and PR (and the other outlying areas) should have statehood....

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship | U.S. Embassy and Consulate in the Netherlands

A person can become an American citizen in one of two ways: by birth or by naturalization. A person may be born a U.S. citizen by either jus soli, i.e., through place of birth, or jus sanguinis, i.e. through descent from his/her parents. With very few exceptions, most of which have to do with...

nl.usembassy.gov

Its crazy that we have citizens who are not considered citizens of a state.

Take the outlying areas and have them become parts of the current 50 states. Take the 3 electors from DC and get rid of them. DC residents become residents of Maryland (or VA--whichever). Its silly to have an even number of electors as well.

It's not crazy

DC is inside virginia....You can't have a state within a state without the bigger states approval.

Puerto Ricans have never voted in a binary vote for statehood. It is not clear a majority of people on the island support statehood......Merely respecting the democratic process. If Yes would win in a binary vote on statehood republicans could not prevent them. THey'd have to allow them in, as it stands ricans don't vote for statehood and that's why they're not a state

Maybe do some fucking research my god....

What is with all these retards on the left thinking PR want to become a state....? Wishful thinking not backed up by PR voters. I hear this all the time triggers me each time. THe anti racist party not listening to the Brown Ricans when they say they don't want to be a state. lol

You didn't seem to read what I wrote. Maybe do some fucking research.

You said a people who don't want statehood should have it

I did you ignorant ****

Shut up retards, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Just because a talking head told you Ricans want statehood doesn't make it true. Been plenty of votes on the issue. Ricans clearly do not want statehood

DC wants statehood if you believe the polls:

View attachment 422576

Yea now show me virginia's numbers

There are two relevant voting populaces

Virginia and DC

You can't make a state within a state without the larger states approval. I told you that.

Now maybe Virginia supports DC statehood, IDK. But that's the relevant question here. I have no doubt people living in DC want statehood.

Again, you didn't read what I wrote...feel free to do some fucking research...

I am reading what you said

You didn't include relevant information..../

DC needs virginia's approval, they have a democratic process as well. lol

Nah... It needs an amendment. It won't get it.

You don't need an amendment to make a portion of D.C. a state.

I think hes' misinterpreting that states within states aren't allowed

when really it just requries the approval of the state you're cutting away from

Yeah, making D.C. (or at least the portion where people live)_ a state is not creating a state from a state. However the land that was granted for DC came from Maryland and Virginia however Virginia was given it's land back so now you just have Maryland and I doubt they'll have a problem with a 51st (or 52nd) state, nor would Virginia.

I think the challenges would be legal, having to write the bill to make the new state around the 23rd amendment, not impossible but there would be legal challenges and most likely this would end up in the Supreme Court. They're a little bit of an unknown as to how they would react.

The larger hurdle is the senate as it would require the Democrats to win a majority and then kill the filibuster. I could see a couple of the Democrats not going along with this as it could potentially endanger their own powers playing spoiler to a Democratic majority. (Sinema, Manchin)

Huh interesting i didn't know that about maryland having a claim as well

I think it's just Maryland at this point but could be wrong.

 

[HappyJoy]

The Democrats will give Puerto Rico statehood and have permanent control of the government forever.
"Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely"
They have gotten away with their Russian Collusion scandal, their baseless impeachment scandal, and probably with their Mass Voter Fraud scandal and their Censorship scandal.
Expect more of the same.
One Party countries always devolve into dystopian misery.....aka Biden's "dark winter"

Puerto Rico votes in favor of statehood. But what does it mean for the island? - ABC News (go.com)

Doubutful.

But certainly DC and PR (and the other outlying areas) should have statehood....

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship | U.S. Embassy and Consulate in the Netherlands

A person can become an American citizen in one of two ways: by birth or by naturalization. A person may be born a U.S. citizen by either jus soli, i.e., through place of birth, or jus sanguinis, i.e. through descent from his/her parents. With very few exceptions, most of which have to do with...

nl.usembassy.gov

Its crazy that we have citizens who are not considered citizens of a state.

Take the outlying areas and have them become parts of the current 50 states. Take the 3 electors from DC and get rid of them. DC residents become residents of Maryland (or VA--whichever). Its silly to have an even number of electors as well.

It's not crazy

DC is inside virginia....You can't have a state within a state without the bigger states approval.

Puerto Ricans have never voted in a binary vote for statehood. It is not clear a majority of people on the island support statehood......Merely respecting the democratic process. If Yes would win in a binary vote on statehood republicans could not prevent them. THey'd have to allow them in, as it stands ricans don't vote for statehood and that's why they're not a state

Maybe do some fucking research my god....

What is with all these retards on the left thinking PR want to become a state....? Wishful thinking not backed up by PR voters. I hear this all the time triggers me each time. THe anti racist party not listening to the Brown Ricans when they say they don't want to be a state. lol

You didn't seem to read what I wrote. Maybe do some fucking research.

You said a people who don't want statehood should have it

I did you ignorant ****

Shut up retards, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Just because a talking head told you Ricans want statehood doesn't make it true. Been plenty of votes on the issue. Ricans clearly do not want statehood

DC wants statehood if you believe the polls:

View attachment 422576

Yea now show me virginia's numbers

There are two relevant voting populaces

Virginia and DC

You can't make a state within a state without the larger states approval. I told you that.

Now maybe Virginia supports DC statehood, IDK. But that's the relevant question here. I have no doubt people living in DC want statehood.

Again, you didn't read what I wrote...feel free to do some fucking research...

I am reading what you said

You didn't include relevant information..../

DC needs virginia's approval, they have a democratic process as well. lol

Nah... It needs an amendment. It won't get it.

You don't need an amendment to make a portion of D.C. a state.

Really? I thought you did.

The District of Columbia would still need to exist however the size and location are not coded into the 23rd amendment. My understanding is that it's just required that DC have the same number of electoral votes as the smallest state. So, you simply just for lack of a better saying redistrict the district. So that DC only takes up the federal buildings and the mall. The rest of DC would make up the new state. Then we would have the new state with a full set of representatives, senators and electoral college votes (probably still 3, maybe 4). DC and what's left of it would still retain it's 3 electoral college votes and at this time pretty much the only citizens of DC would be the president and his/her family and maybe some staff. It's at this point that it might be pretty easy to amend the Constitution to strip the electoral college votes from the smaller District of Columbia.

Democrats if/when it's possible should take this route. Fix the issue with lack of representation for the citizens of DC and then solve the constitutional issues that will be crated afterward.

Seems easier to fold it into Maryland or VA. But whatever.

That would be unconstitutional. DC has to exist.

 

[OKTexas]

The Democrats will give Puerto Rico statehood and have permanent control of the government forever.
"Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely"
They have gotten away with their Russian Collusion scandal, their baseless impeachment scandal, and probably with their Mass Voter Fraud scandal and their Censorship scandal.
Expect more of the same.
One Party countries always devolve into dystopian misery.....aka Biden's "dark winter"

Puerto Rico votes in favor of statehood. But what does it mean for the island? - ABC News (go.com)

Doubutful.

But certainly DC and PR (and the other outlying areas) should have statehood....

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship | U.S. Embassy and Consulate in the Netherlands

A person can become an American citizen in one of two ways: by birth or by naturalization. A person may be born a U.S. citizen by either jus soli, i.e., through place of birth, or jus sanguinis, i.e. through descent from his/her parents. With very few exceptions, most of which have to do with...

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Its crazy that we have citizens who are not considered citizens of a state.

Take the outlying areas and have them become parts of the current 50 states. Take the 3 electors from DC and get rid of them. DC residents become residents of Maryland (or VA--whichever). Its silly to have an even number of electors as well.

No they should not, because this nation was made for Americans and for freedom. We will now allow an interest opposed to those causes to rule us, ever...

If you want the Venezuelan experience, stick on a boat. That's the only way to teach some idiots that free shit is not free.

Do you even have a clue about how batshit crazy you sound?

Puerto Ricans, citizens of DC, etc.. fought in our wars (and continue to do so). They should belong to a state you dimwit.

Great, let NY annex them, a good portion of Puerto Ricians live there anyway.

.

You want a blue state to gain the population and perhaps electoral votes? Sure.

Actually I would prefer giving them independence, like they've wanted for decades. We've already given them our bases on Vieques and Roosevelt Roads NAS. They also field their own olympic teams. Screw'em, cut'em lose.

.

 

[candycorn]

The Democrats will give Puerto Rico statehood and have permanent control of the government forever.
"Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely"
They have gotten away with their Russian Collusion scandal, their baseless impeachment scandal, and probably with their Mass Voter Fraud scandal and their Censorship scandal.
Expect more of the same.
One Party countries always devolve into dystopian misery.....aka Biden's "dark winter"

Puerto Rico votes in favor of statehood. But what does it mean for the island? - ABC News (go.com)

Doubutful.

But certainly DC and PR (and the other outlying areas) should have statehood....

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship | U.S. Embassy and Consulate in the Netherlands

A person can become an American citizen in one of two ways: by birth or by naturalization. A person may be born a U.S. citizen by either jus soli, i.e., through place of birth, or jus sanguinis, i.e. through descent from his/her parents. With very few exceptions, most of which have to do with...

nl.usembassy.gov

Its crazy that we have citizens who are not considered citizens of a state.

Take the outlying areas and have them become parts of the current 50 states. Take the 3 electors from DC and get rid of them. DC residents become residents of Maryland (or VA--whichever). Its silly to have an even number of electors as well.

It's not crazy

DC is inside virginia....You can't have a state within a state without the bigger states approval.

Puerto Ricans have never voted in a binary vote for statehood. It is not clear a majority of people on the island support statehood......Merely respecting the democratic process. If Yes would win in a binary vote on statehood republicans could not prevent them. THey'd have to allow them in, as it stands ricans don't vote for statehood and that's why they're not a state

Maybe do some fucking research my god....

What is with all these retards on the left thinking PR want to become a state....? Wishful thinking not backed up by PR voters. I hear this all the time triggers me each time. THe anti racist party not listening to the Brown Ricans when they say they don't want to be a state. lol

You didn't seem to read what I wrote. Maybe do some fucking research.

You said a people who don't want statehood should have it

I did you ignorant ****

Shut up retards, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Just because a talking head told you Ricans want statehood doesn't make it true. Been plenty of votes on the issue. Ricans clearly do not want statehood

DC wants statehood if you believe the polls:

View attachment 422576

Yea now show me virginia's numbers

There are two relevant voting populaces

Virginia and DC

You can't make a state within a state without the larger states approval. I told you that.

Now maybe Virginia supports DC statehood, IDK. But that's the relevant question here. I have no doubt people living in DC want statehood.

Again, you didn't read what I wrote...feel free to do some fucking research...

I am reading what you said

You didn't include relevant information..../

DC needs virginia's approval, they have a democratic process as well. lol

Nah... It needs an amendment. It won't get it.

You don't need an amendment to make a portion of D.C. a state.

Really? I thought you did.

The District of Columbia would still need to exist however the size and location are not coded into the 23rd amendment. My understanding is that it's just required that DC have the same number of electoral votes as the smallest state. So, you simply just for lack of a better saying redistrict the district. So that DC only takes up the federal buildings and the mall. The rest of DC would make up the new state. Then we would have the new state with a full set of representatives, senators and electoral college votes (probably still 3, maybe 4). DC and what's left of it would still retain it's 3 electoral college votes and at this time pretty much the only citizens of DC would be the president and his/her family and maybe some staff. It's at this point that it might be pretty easy to amend the Constitution to strip the electoral college votes from the smaller District of Columbia.

Democrats if/when it's possible should take this route. Fix the issue with lack of representation for the citizens of DC and then solve the constitutional issues that will be crated afterward.

Seems easier to fold it into Maryland or VA. But whatever.

That would be unconstitutional.

Ok. Again as I stated 18 years ago when this thread first started...it needs an amendment.. .It ain't gonna happen.

 

[HappyJoy]

The Democrats will give Puerto Rico statehood and have permanent control of the government forever.
"Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely"
They have gotten away with their Russian Collusion scandal, their baseless impeachment scandal, and probably with their Mass Voter Fraud scandal and their Censorship scandal.
Expect more of the same.
One Party countries always devolve into dystopian misery.....aka Biden's "dark winter"

Puerto Rico votes in favor of statehood. But what does it mean for the island? - ABC News (go.com)

Doubutful.

But certainly DC and PR (and the other outlying areas) should have statehood....

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship | U.S. Embassy and Consulate in the Netherlands

A person can become an American citizen in one of two ways: by birth or by naturalization. A person may be born a U.S. citizen by either jus soli, i.e., through place of birth, or jus sanguinis, i.e. through descent from his/her parents. With very few exceptions, most of which have to do with...

nl.usembassy.gov

Its crazy that we have citizens who are not considered citizens of a state.

Take the outlying areas and have them become parts of the current 50 states. Take the 3 electors from DC and get rid of them. DC residents become residents of Maryland (or VA--whichever). Its silly to have an even number of electors as well.

It's not crazy

DC is inside virginia....You can't have a state within a state without the bigger states approval.

Puerto Ricans have never voted in a binary vote for statehood. It is not clear a majority of people on the island support statehood......Merely respecting the democratic process. If Yes would win in a binary vote on statehood republicans could not prevent them. THey'd have to allow them in, as it stands ricans don't vote for statehood and that's why they're not a state

Maybe do some fucking research my god....

What is with all these retards on the left thinking PR want to become a state....? Wishful thinking not backed up by PR voters. I hear this all the time triggers me each time. THe anti racist party not listening to the Brown Ricans when they say they don't want to be a state. lol

You didn't seem to read what I wrote. Maybe do some fucking research.

You said a people who don't want statehood should have it

I did you ignorant ****

Shut up retards, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Just because a talking head told you Ricans want statehood doesn't make it true. Been plenty of votes on the issue. Ricans clearly do not want statehood

DC wants statehood if you believe the polls:

View attachment 422576

Yea now show me virginia's numbers

There are two relevant voting populaces

Virginia and DC

You can't make a state within a state without the larger states approval. I told you that.

Now maybe Virginia supports DC statehood, IDK. But that's the relevant question here. I have no doubt people living in DC want statehood.

Again, you didn't read what I wrote...feel free to do some fucking research...

I am reading what you said

You didn't include relevant information..../

DC needs virginia's approval, they have a democratic process as well. lol

Nah... It needs an amendment. It won't get it.

You don't need an amendment to make a portion of D.C. a state.

Really? I thought you did.

The District of Columbia would still need to exist however the size and location are not coded into the 23rd amendment. My understanding is that it's just required that DC have the same number of electoral votes as the smallest state. So, you simply just for lack of a better saying redistrict the district. So that DC only takes up the federal buildings and the mall. The rest of DC would make up the new state. Then we would have the new state with a full set of representatives, senators and electoral college votes (probably still 3, maybe 4). DC and what's left of it would still retain it's 3 electoral college votes and at this time pretty much the only citizens of DC would be the president and his/her family and maybe some staff. It's at this point that it might be pretty easy to amend the Constitution to strip the electoral college votes from the smaller District of Columbia.

Democrats if/when it's possible should take this route. Fix the issue with lack of representation for the citizens of DC and then solve the constitutional issues that will be crated afterward.

Seems easier to fold it into Maryland or VA. But whatever.

That would be unconstitutional.

Ok. Again as I stated 18 years ago when this thread first started...it needs an amendment.. .It ain't gonna happen.

Nope, you don't need an amendment to take a portion of DC and make it a state.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Actually I would prefer giving them independence, like they've wanted for decades.

Not sure who "they" are, but the residents of Puerto Rico overwhelmingly want Statehood. So we will just ask them, not you.

 

[Polishprince]

The Democrats will give Puerto Rico statehood and have permanent control of the government forever.
"Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely"
They have gotten away with their Russian Collusion scandal, their baseless impeachment scandal, and probably with their Mass Voter Fraud scandal and their Censorship scandal.
Expect more of the same.
One Party countries always devolve into dystopian misery.....aka Biden's "dark winter"

Puerto Rico votes in favor of statehood. But what does it mean for the island? - ABC News (go.com)

Doubutful.

But certainly DC and PR (and the other outlying areas) should have statehood....

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship | U.S. Embassy and Consulate in the Netherlands

A person can become an American citizen in one of two ways: by birth or by naturalization. A person may be born a U.S. citizen by either jus soli, i.e., through place of birth, or jus sanguinis, i.e. through descent from his/her parents. With very few exceptions, most of which have to do with...

nl.usembassy.gov

Its crazy that we have citizens who are not considered citizens of a state.

Take the outlying areas and have them become parts of the current 50 states. Take the 3 electors from DC and get rid of them. DC residents become residents of Maryland (or VA--whichever). Its silly to have an even number of electors as well.

It's not crazy

DC is inside virginia....You can't have a state within a state without the bigger states approval.

Puerto Ricans have never voted in a binary vote for statehood. It is not clear a majority of people on the island support statehood......Merely respecting the democratic process. If Yes would win in a binary vote on statehood republicans could not prevent them. THey'd have to allow them in, as it stands ricans don't vote for statehood and that's why they're not a state

Maybe do some fucking research my god....

What is with all these retards on the left thinking PR want to become a state....? Wishful thinking not backed up by PR voters. I hear this all the time triggers me each time. THe anti racist party not listening to the Brown Ricans when they say they don't want to be a state. lol

You didn't seem to read what I wrote. Maybe do some fucking research.

You said a people who don't want statehood should have it

I did you ignorant ****

Shut up retards, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Just because a talking head told you Ricans want statehood doesn't make it true. Been plenty of votes on the issue. Ricans clearly do not want statehood

DC wants statehood if you believe the polls:

View attachment 422576

Yea now show me virginia's numbers

There are two relevant voting populaces

Virginia and DC

You can't make a state within a state without the larger states approval. I told you that.

Now maybe Virginia supports DC statehood, IDK. But that's the relevant question here. I have no doubt people living in DC want statehood.

Again, you didn't read what I wrote...feel free to do some fucking research...

I am reading what you said

You didn't include relevant information..../

DC needs virginia's approval, they have a democratic process as well. lol

Nah... It needs an amendment. It won't get it.

You don't need an amendment to make a portion of D.C. a state.

Really? I thought you did.

The District of Columbia would still need to exist however the size and location are not coded into the 23rd amendment. My understanding is that it's just required that DC have the same number of electoral votes as the smallest state. So, you simply just for lack of a better saying redistrict the district. So that DC only takes up the federal buildings and the mall. The rest of DC would make up the new state. Then we would have the new state with a full set of representatives, senators and electoral college votes (probably still 3, maybe 4). DC and what's left of it would still retain it's 3 electoral college votes and at this time pretty much the only citizens of DC would be the president and his/her family and maybe some staff. It's at this point that it might be pretty easy to amend the Constitution to strip the electoral college votes from the smaller District of Columbia.

Democrats if/when it's possible should take this route. Fix the issue with lack of representation for the citizens of DC and then solve the constitutional issues that will be crated afterward.

Why do you think it would be "easy" to strip electoral college votes from the District of Columbia by amending the Constitution?

That kind of thing is never easy to do. Concerned Americans couldn't even get amendments to protect the flag or the institution of marriage.

 

[Polishprince]

Actually I would prefer giving them independence, like they've wanted for decades.

Not sure who "they" are, but the residents of Puerto Rico overwhelmingly want Statehood. So we will just ask them, not you.

Its not "overwhelming" at all. The referendum this month indicated Puerto Rico favored statehood by a margin of 52 to 47.

 

[HappyJoy]

The Democrats will give Puerto Rico statehood and have permanent control of the government forever.
"Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely"
They have gotten away with their Russian Collusion scandal, their baseless impeachment scandal, and probably with their Mass Voter Fraud scandal and their Censorship scandal.
Expect more of the same.
One Party countries always devolve into dystopian misery.....aka Biden's "dark winter"

Puerto Rico votes in favor of statehood. But what does it mean for the island? - ABC News (go.com)

Doubutful.

But certainly DC and PR (and the other outlying areas) should have statehood....

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship | U.S. Embassy and Consulate in the Netherlands

A person can become an American citizen in one of two ways: by birth or by naturalization. A person may be born a U.S. citizen by either jus soli, i.e., through place of birth, or jus sanguinis, i.e. through descent from his/her parents. With very few exceptions, most of which have to do with...

nl.usembassy.gov

Its crazy that we have citizens who are not considered citizens of a state.

Take the outlying areas and have them become parts of the current 50 states. Take the 3 electors from DC and get rid of them. DC residents become residents of Maryland (or VA--whichever). Its silly to have an even number of electors as well.

It's not crazy

DC is inside virginia....You can't have a state within a state without the bigger states approval.

Puerto Ricans have never voted in a binary vote for statehood. It is not clear a majority of people on the island support statehood......Merely respecting the democratic process. If Yes would win in a binary vote on statehood republicans could not prevent them. THey'd have to allow them in, as it stands ricans don't vote for statehood and that's why they're not a state

Maybe do some fucking research my god....

What is with all these retards on the left thinking PR want to become a state....? Wishful thinking not backed up by PR voters. I hear this all the time triggers me each time. THe anti racist party not listening to the Brown Ricans when they say they don't want to be a state. lol

You didn't seem to read what I wrote. Maybe do some fucking research.

You said a people who don't want statehood should have it

I did you ignorant ****

Shut up retards, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Just because a talking head told you Ricans want statehood doesn't make it true. Been plenty of votes on the issue. Ricans clearly do not want statehood

DC wants statehood if you believe the polls:

View attachment 422576

Yea now show me virginia's numbers

There are two relevant voting populaces

Virginia and DC

You can't make a state within a state without the larger states approval. I told you that.

Now maybe Virginia supports DC statehood, IDK. But that's the relevant question here. I have no doubt people living in DC want statehood.

Again, you didn't read what I wrote...feel free to do some fucking research...

I am reading what you said

You didn't include relevant information..../

DC needs virginia's approval, they have a democratic process as well. lol

Nah... It needs an amendment. It won't get it.

You don't need an amendment to make a portion of D.C. a state.

Really? I thought you did.

The District of Columbia would still need to exist however the size and location are not coded into the 23rd amendment. My understanding is that it's just required that DC have the same number of electoral votes as the smallest state. So, you simply just for lack of a better saying redistrict the district. So that DC only takes up the federal buildings and the mall. The rest of DC would make up the new state. Then we would have the new state with a full set of representatives, senators and electoral college votes (probably still 3, maybe 4). DC and what's left of it would still retain it's 3 electoral college votes and at this time pretty much the only citizens of DC would be the president and his/her family and maybe some staff. It's at this point that it might be pretty easy to amend the Constitution to strip the electoral college votes from the smaller District of Columbia.

Democrats if/when it's possible should take this route. Fix the issue with lack of representation for the citizens of DC and then solve the constitutional issues that will be crated afterward.

Why do you think it would be "easy" to strip electoral college votes from the District of Columbia by amending the Constitution?

That kind of thing is never easy to do. Concerned Americans couldn't even get amendments to protect the flag or the institution of marriage.

I said might be. Considering that after everything else in my post happened almost nobody would actually live in DC so at that point stripping away it's electoral college votes should make sense to everyone.

 

[OKTexas]

Actually I would prefer giving them independence, like they've wanted for decades.

Not sure who "they" are, but the residents of Puerto Rico overwhelmingly want Statehood. So we will just ask them, not you.

They've voted many times, they didn't want statehood. They don't want to pay federal income taxes or give up their olympic teams. Have you ever lived there? I have.

.

 

[Juicin]

Actually I would prefer giving them independence, like they've wanted for decades.

Not sure who "they" are, but the residents of Puerto Rico overwhelmingly want Statehood. So we will just ask them, not you.

There is absoultrely no evidnce of that

It has been brought up to vote multiple times

Puerto Rico has never supported statehood in a binary vote, the only time they can get it to win is if they put many options up. And it doesn't get a majority jsut a plurality

IDK where people are getting the idea Ricans want to be a state but the majority in PR who vote clearly do not

The unmitigated delusion to think Republicans are keeping PR out, lol

They would have to let them in they probably thank Jesus every time they vote it down. Enough republicans could not justify preventing PR from becoming a state and would vote with democrats.

 

[candycorn]

You fold the existing territories into the existing states. DC goes to VA/MD. Puerto Rico becomes part of Florida as does the VI. Guam becomes part of Hawaii along with Midway and Wake (I think those are our territories out there). No new stars on the flag. They get represented by the same representatives they have now pending the census reallocation. The 3 electoral votes for DC disappear (it makes no sense to have an even number of electors).

Easy. Logical. Adult.

For all 3 reasons it will never happen.