Protests: Fifty Shades as Glamorizing Domestic Violence

[WinterBorn]

BDSM is an aberration. It should not be promoted as any kind of normal sex. It should be recognized as belonging to very special people. Once abnormality is accepted a normal behavior, it doesn't stop until the society becomes wholly depraved.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say females are 90+% of the people buying & reading that book. Amiright?

Buying the book and filling the movie houses.

So what are we to gather from that? It isn't that BDSM is a normal exhibition of affection and those who don't engage are rejecting normal sexual relations. As distasteful as it is to contemplate, on some level the abusers who claim "she was asking for it" have a point. More women want to be beaten than we like to think about. Especially if the man is good looking with money.

A little hair pulling, maybe a little spanking, sure that can add to the excitement, but beatings where wounds and bruises are left? That's not sex and that's not love. That's sickness and confusion on the part of the people involved.

You are talking degrees here. A little spanking is ok, but a lot of spanking is not? You have your tastes in what you want. Simply because others have different tastes does not make them ill or confused.

Why do you think they would do that? Because they equate violence with love. That's why. They are at least confused individuals.

They do it for the same reason you think a little hair pulling and a little spanking are good. Because they enjoy it.

 

[NoNukes]

I believe human sexuality reveals pretty much who you really are as a person. People are very good at putting up a false front and pretending to be what they aren't. But that changes in the bedroom and the real you comes out. If you need to paddle someone or tie them up, you're a sick fuck. Something is wrong with you that you need to have power over someone or get off on seeing them helpless.

What if the person who recieved the spanking likes it and orgasims? Some people are turned on by different things than you. It does not make them a sick fuck.

Yes . . . it does. Sorry. People who enjoy abuse or inflicting it are fucked up.

That would be known as an opinion. Your opinion.

 

[ChrisL]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say females are 90+% of the people buying & reading that book. Amiright?

Buying the book and filling the movie houses.

So what are we to gather from that? It isn't that BDSM is a normal exhibition of affection and those who don't engage are rejecting normal sexual relations. As distasteful as it is to contemplate, on some level the abusers who claim "she was asking for it" have a point. More women want to be beaten than we like to think about. Especially if the man is good looking with money.

A little hair pulling, maybe a little spanking, sure that can add to the excitement, but beatings where wounds and bruises are left? That's not sex and that's not love. That's sickness and confusion on the part of the people involved.

You are talking degrees here. A little spanking is ok, but a lot of spanking is not? You have your tastes in what you want. Simply because others have different tastes does not make them ill or confused.

Why do you think they would do that? Because they equate violence with love. That's why. They are at least confused individuals.

They do it for the same reason you think a little hair pulling and a little spanking are good. Because they enjoy it.

I'm not saying they don't enjoy it. Where did I say that? It makes them fucked up though. Lol.

 

[martybegan]

The ladies in my office have been talking about this stupid movie all week.

Here's the thing. The only reason why this is appealing is because the character of Christian is rich and handsome. So that makes it okay that he abuses his partner in some rehashed Twilight Fan Fiction.

If Christian were middle aged and balding, and worked in a cubicle, I don't think they'd find it that exciting.

Christian Grey is nothing more than a Kinky Bruce Wayne without the whole Batman thing.

 

[WinterBorn]

BDSM is an aberration. It should not be promoted as any kind of normal sex. It should be recognized as belonging to very special people. Once abnormality is accepted a normal behavior, it doesn't stop until the society becomes wholly depraved.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say females are 90+% of the people buying & reading that book. Amiright?

Buying the book and filling the movie houses.

So what are we to gather from that? It isn't that BDSM is a normal exhibition of affection and those who don't engage are rejecting normal sexual relations. As distasteful as it is to contemplate, on some level the abusers who claim "she was asking for it" have a point. More women want to be beaten than we like to think about. Especially if the man is good looking with money.

Those women probably came from abusive homes, so they relate violence to sex.

That can't be. There are too many of them. Go down to any bookstore and take a look through the romance section. The stories are of women kidnapped, raped, kept tied up, enslaved, beaten, then they fall in love. It isn't just women who came from abusive homes buying these books.

Oh please, I've read plenty of romance. A lot of them do NOT involve such things. There is a name for a person who falls for someone who kidnaps and abuses them, and it is a mental disorder called Stockholm syndrome. It's how they rationalize and deal with a stressful situation. Sorry, but a person who WANTS to hurt you does not love you. A person who loves you does not want to hurt you, physically or otherwise, unless they are confused.

Stockholm Syndrome? lol Most BDSMers seek out partners to share this with. It is not a reaction to it.

 

[NoNukes]

I believe human sexuality reveals pretty much who you really are as a person. People are very good at putting up a false front and pretending to be what they aren't. But that changes in the bedroom and the real you comes out. If you need to paddle someone or tie them up, you're a sick fuck. Something is wrong with you that you need to have power over someone or get off on seeing them helpless.

What if the person who recieved the spanking likes it and orgasims? Some people are turned on by different things than you. It does not make them a sick fuck.

No, it makes them two sick fucks. If you get off on getting spanked you have psychological issues. It's up to people to do what they want but trying to normalize it is wrong.

Who decides what is 'normal'?

 

[ChrisL]

I believe human sexuality reveals pretty much who you really are as a person. People are very good at putting up a false front and pretending to be what they aren't. But that changes in the bedroom and the real you comes out. If you need to paddle someone or tie them up, you're a sick fuck. Something is wrong with you that you need to have power over someone or get off on seeing them helpless.

What if the person who recieved the spanking likes it and orgasims? Some people are turned on by different things than you. It does not make them a sick fuck.

Yes . . . it does. Sorry. People who enjoy abuse or inflicting it are fucked up.

That would be known as an opinion. Your opinion.

Look, stop trying to justify fucked up sexual proclivities. Not everything is "normal" nor should everything be normalized. This is not normal. Abusing your sexual partner is not normal behavior. That is a person who ENJOYS inflicting pain on others. The person who enjoys receiving abuse is just as messed up. You can try to say that it's normal, but it is not obviously to any sane person.

 

[martybegan]

Domestic violence stems from anger at ones life that manifests during times of stress or changes to a certain situation. If you are arranging for a leather and spanking session ahead of time, it is not DV. DV is slapping your wife because the steak was medium instead of medium rare.

 

[WinterBorn]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say females are 90+% of the people buying & reading that book. Amiright?

Buying the book and filling the movie houses.

So what are we to gather from that? It isn't that BDSM is a normal exhibition of affection and those who don't engage are rejecting normal sexual relations. As distasteful as it is to contemplate, on some level the abusers who claim "she was asking for it" have a point. More women want to be beaten than we like to think about. Especially if the man is good looking with money.

A little hair pulling, maybe a little spanking, sure that can add to the excitement, but beatings where wounds and bruises are left? That's not sex and that's not love. That's sickness and confusion on the part of the people involved.

You are talking degrees here. A little spanking is ok, but a lot of spanking is not? You have your tastes in what you want. Simply because others have different tastes does not make them ill or confused.

Why do you think they would do that? Because they equate violence with love. That's why. They are at least confused individuals.

Equating violence with love is not a normal response. It's a pathological response and should never be held out as normal.

Normal? What about human sexuality is normal? Is sodomy normal? Is picking your partner based on hair color normal?

 

[NoNukes]

I believe human sexuality reveals pretty much who you really are as a person. People are very good at putting up a false front and pretending to be what they aren't. But that changes in the bedroom and the real you comes out. If you need to paddle someone or tie them up, you're a sick fuck. Something is wrong with you that you need to have power over someone or get off on seeing them helpless.

What if the person who recieved the spanking likes it and orgasims? Some people are turned on by different things than you. It does not make them a sick fuck.

Yes . . . it does. Sorry. People who enjoy abuse or inflicting it are fucked up.

A playful spanking that excites your partner is not abuse.

 

[ChrisL]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say females are 90+% of the people buying & reading that book. Amiright?

Buying the book and filling the movie houses.

So what are we to gather from that? It isn't that BDSM is a normal exhibition of affection and those who don't engage are rejecting normal sexual relations. As distasteful as it is to contemplate, on some level the abusers who claim "she was asking for it" have a point. More women want to be beaten than we like to think about. Especially if the man is good looking with money.

Those women probably came from abusive homes, so they relate violence to sex.

That can't be. There are too many of them. Go down to any bookstore and take a look through the romance section. The stories are of women kidnapped, raped, kept tied up, enslaved, beaten, then they fall in love. It isn't just women who came from abusive homes buying these books.

Oh please, I've read plenty of romance. A lot of them do NOT involve such things. There is a name for a person who falls for someone who kidnaps and abuses them, and it is a mental disorder called Stockholm syndrome. It's how they rationalize and deal with a stressful situation. Sorry, but a person who WANTS to hurt you does not love you. A person who loves you does not want to hurt you, physically or otherwise, unless they are confused.

Stockholm Syndrome? lol Most BDSMers seek out partners to share this with. It is not a reaction to it.

Because they are fucked up. Sorry, but if you get turned on by hurting people or by being hurt, you are at least confused and probably could use some therapy.

 

[ChrisL]

I believe human sexuality reveals pretty much who you really are as a person. People are very good at putting up a false front and pretending to be what they aren't. But that changes in the bedroom and the real you comes out. If you need to paddle someone or tie them up, you're a sick fuck. Something is wrong with you that you need to have power over someone or get off on seeing them helpless.

What if the person who recieved the spanking likes it and orgasims? Some people are turned on by different things than you. It does not make them a sick fuck.

Yes . . . it does. Sorry. People who enjoy abuse or inflicting it are fucked up.

A playful spanking that excites your partner is not abuse.

Right, a "playful" spanking is not abuse. Beating a person and leaving marks on them and enjoying inflicting pain on them is though. That is an abusive person.

 

[WinterBorn]

I believe human sexuality reveals pretty much who you really are as a person. People are very good at putting up a false front and pretending to be what they aren't. But that changes in the bedroom and the real you comes out. If you need to paddle someone or tie them up, you're a sick fuck. Something is wrong with you that you need to have power over someone or get off on seeing them helpless.

What if the person who recieved the spanking likes it and orgasims? Some people are turned on by different things than you. It does not make them a sick fuck.

No, it makes them two sick fucks. If you get off on getting spanked you have psychological issues. It's up to people to do what they want but trying to normalize it is wrong.

Exactly what is it to "Nomalize" something? Not making it illegal? Not calling them sick? You say its up to the two people to decide.

 

[NoNukes]

I believe human sexuality reveals pretty much who you really are as a person. People are very good at putting up a false front and pretending to be what they aren't. But that changes in the bedroom and the real you comes out. If you need to paddle someone or tie them up, you're a sick fuck. Something is wrong with you that you need to have power over someone or get off on seeing them helpless.

What if the person who recieved the spanking likes it and orgasims? Some people are turned on by different things than you. It does not make them a sick fuck.

Yes . . . it does. Sorry. People who enjoy abuse or inflicting it are fucked up.

That would be known as an opinion. Your opinion.

Look, stop trying to justify fucked up sexual proclivities. Not everything is "normal" nor should everything be normalized. This is not normal. Abusing your sexual partner is not normal behavior. That is a person who ENJOYS inflicting pain on others. The person who enjoys receiving abuse is just as messed up. You can try to say that it's normal, but it is not obviously to any sane person.

Once again, that would be known as an opinion. You speak it as truth.

 

[ChrisL]

Buying the book and filling the movie houses.

So what are we to gather from that? It isn't that BDSM is a normal exhibition of affection and those who don't engage are rejecting normal sexual relations. As distasteful as it is to contemplate, on some level the abusers who claim "she was asking for it" have a point. More women want to be beaten than we like to think about. Especially if the man is good looking with money.

A little hair pulling, maybe a little spanking, sure that can add to the excitement, but beatings where wounds and bruises are left? That's not sex and that's not love. That's sickness and confusion on the part of the people involved.

You are talking degrees here. A little spanking is ok, but a lot of spanking is not? You have your tastes in what you want. Simply because others have different tastes does not make them ill or confused.

Why do you think they would do that? Because they equate violence with love. That's why. They are at least confused individuals.

Equating violence with love is not a normal response. It's a pathological response and should never be held out as normal.

Normal? What about human sexuality is normal? Is sodomy normal? Is picking your partner based on hair color normal?

Enjoying and being sexually turned on by inflicting pain is not normal. That is a form of abuse. Just because you find someone who is fucked up as yourself (generally speaking - not YOU personally), doesn't mean either of them are healthy.

 

[WinterBorn]

I believe human sexuality reveals pretty much who you really are as a person. People are very good at putting up a false front and pretending to be what they aren't. But that changes in the bedroom and the real you comes out. If you need to paddle someone or tie them up, you're a sick fuck. Something is wrong with you that you need to have power over someone or get off on seeing them helpless.

What if the person who recieved the spanking likes it and orgasims? Some people are turned on by different things than you. It does not make them a sick fuck.

Yes . . . it does. Sorry. People who enjoy abuse or inflicting it are fucked up.

That would be known as an opinion. Your opinion.

Look, stop trying to justify fucked up sexual proclivities. Not everything is "normal" nor should everything be normalized. This is not normal. Abusing your sexual partner is not normal behavior. That is a person who ENJOYS inflicting pain on others. The person who enjoys receiving abuse is just as messed up. You can try to say that it's normal, but it is not obviously to any sane person.

So your definitions of "normal" are what we should all go by and guide our lives by?

 

[ChrisL]

I believe human sexuality reveals pretty much who you really are as a person. People are very good at putting up a false front and pretending to be what they aren't. But that changes in the bedroom and the real you comes out. If you need to paddle someone or tie them up, you're a sick fuck. Something is wrong with you that you need to have power over someone or get off on seeing them helpless.

What if the person who recieved the spanking likes it and orgasims? Some people are turned on by different things than you. It does not make them a sick fuck.

Yes . . . it does. Sorry. People who enjoy abuse or inflicting it are fucked up.

That would be known as an opinion. Your opinion.

Look, stop trying to justify fucked up sexual proclivities. Not everything is "normal" nor should everything be normalized. This is not normal. Abusing your sexual partner is not normal behavior. That is a person who ENJOYS inflicting pain on others. The person who enjoys receiving abuse is just as messed up. You can try to say that it's normal, but it is not obviously to any sane person.

Once again, that would be known as an opinion. You speak it as truth.

It is truth. If you enjoy inflicting pain on others, you are an abusive person. End of story.

 

[WinterBorn]

I believe human sexuality reveals pretty much who you really are as a person. People are very good at putting up a false front and pretending to be what they aren't. But that changes in the bedroom and the real you comes out. If you need to paddle someone or tie them up, you're a sick fuck. Something is wrong with you that you need to have power over someone or get off on seeing them helpless.

What if the person who recieved the spanking likes it and orgasims? Some people are turned on by different things than you. It does not make them a sick fuck.

Yes . . . it does. Sorry. People who enjoy abuse or inflicting it are fucked up.

A playful spanking that excites your partner is not abuse.

Right, a "playful" spanking is not abuse. Beating a person and leaving marks on them and enjoying inflicting pain on them is though. That is an abusive person.

Or it is someone giving their partner what they WANT.

 

[ChrisL]

I believe human sexuality reveals pretty much who you really are as a person. People are very good at putting up a false front and pretending to be what they aren't. But that changes in the bedroom and the real you comes out. If you need to paddle someone or tie them up, you're a sick fuck. Something is wrong with you that you need to have power over someone or get off on seeing them helpless.

What if the person who recieved the spanking likes it and orgasims? Some people are turned on by different things than you. It does not make them a sick fuck.

Yes . . . it does. Sorry. People who enjoy abuse or inflicting it are fucked up.

That would be known as an opinion. Your opinion.

Look, stop trying to justify fucked up sexual proclivities. Not everything is "normal" nor should everything be normalized. This is not normal. Abusing your sexual partner is not normal behavior. That is a person who ENJOYS inflicting pain on others. The person who enjoys receiving abuse is just as messed up. You can try to say that it's normal, but it is not obviously to any sane person.

So your definitions of "normal" are what we should all go by and guide our lives by?

Of course not, but don't try to pass it off as normal sexual activity, because it is not.

 

[NoNukes]

I believe human sexuality reveals pretty much who you really are as a person. People are very good at putting up a false front and pretending to be what they aren't. But that changes in the bedroom and the real you comes out. If you need to paddle someone or tie them up, you're a sick fuck. Something is wrong with you that you need to have power over someone or get off on seeing them helpless.

What if the person who recieved the spanking likes it and orgasims? Some people are turned on by different things than you. It does not make them a sick fuck.

Yes . . . it does. Sorry. People who enjoy abuse or inflicting it are fucked up.

A playful spanking that excites your partner is not abuse.

Right, a "playful" spanking is not abuse. Beating a person and leaving marks on them and enjoying inflicting pain on them is though. That is an abusive person.

Who says where you draw the line?