Protests: Fifty Shades as Glamorizing Domestic Violence

[ChrisL]

I believe human sexuality reveals pretty much who you really are as a person. People are very good at putting up a false front and pretending to be what they aren't. But that changes in the bedroom and the real you comes out. If you need to paddle someone or tie them up, you're a sick ****. Something is wrong with you that you need to have power over someone or get off on seeing them helpless.

What if the person who recieved the spanking likes it and orgasims? Some people are turned on by different things than you. It does not make them a sick ****.

Yes . . . it does. Sorry. People who enjoy abuse or inflicting it are fucked up.

A playful spanking that excites your partner is not abuse.

Right, a "playful" spanking is not abuse. Beating a person and leaving marks on them and enjoying inflicting pain on them is though. That is an abusive person.

Or it is someone giving their partner what they WANT.

What kind of person WANTS to be hurt? Think about it. With your brain and not your dick.

 

[Katzndogz]

I believe human sexuality reveals pretty much who you really are as a person. People are very good at putting up a false front and pretending to be what they aren't. But that changes in the bedroom and the real you comes out. If you need to paddle someone or tie them up, you're a sick ****. Something is wrong with you that you need to have power over someone or get off on seeing them helpless.

What if the person who recieved the spanking likes it and orgasims? Some people are turned on by different things than you. It does not make them a sick ****.

No, it makes them two sick *****. If you get off on getting spanked you have psychological issues. It's up to people to do what they want but trying to normalize it is wrong.

Who decides what is 'normal'?

Look it up. There are normal parameters for every action including actions by animals.

A man was just arrested for having sex with a corpse. Is that normal? It's normal for him.

 

[ChrisL]

I believe human sexuality reveals pretty much who you really are as a person. People are very good at putting up a false front and pretending to be what they aren't. But that changes in the bedroom and the real you comes out. If you need to paddle someone or tie them up, you're a sick ****. Something is wrong with you that you need to have power over someone or get off on seeing them helpless.

What if the person who recieved the spanking likes it and orgasims? Some people are turned on by different things than you. It does not make them a sick ****.

Yes . . . it does. Sorry. People who enjoy abuse or inflicting it are fucked up.

A playful spanking that excites your partner is not abuse.

Right, a "playful" spanking is not abuse. Beating a person and leaving marks on them and enjoying inflicting pain on them is though. That is an abusive person.

Who says where you draw the line?

I just DID draw a line.

 

[Iceweasel]

Who decides what is 'normal'?

The same as always, most folks. The reason books/movies like this get attention is because they are not the norm.

 

[ChrisL]

I believe human sexuality reveals pretty much who you really are as a person. People are very good at putting up a false front and pretending to be what they aren't. But that changes in the bedroom and the real you comes out. If you need to paddle someone or tie them up, you're a sick ****. Something is wrong with you that you need to have power over someone or get off on seeing them helpless.

What if the person who recieved the spanking likes it and orgasims? Some people are turned on by different things than you. It does not make them a sick ****.

No, it makes them two sick *****. If you get off on getting spanked you have psychological issues. It's up to people to do what they want but trying to normalize it is wrong.

Who decides what is 'normal'?

Look it up. There are normal parameters for every action including actions by animals.

A man was just arrested for having sex with a corpse. Is that normal? It's normal for him.

Exactly, and he would tell us that it's okay because that is what turns him on. Dead bodies. Lol.

 

[NoNukes]

What if the person who recieved the spanking likes it and orgasims? Some people are turned on by different things than you. It does not make them a sick ****.

Yes . . . it does. Sorry. People who enjoy abuse or inflicting it are fucked up.

A playful spanking that excites your partner is not abuse.

Right, a "playful" spanking is not abuse. Beating a person and leaving marks on them and enjoying inflicting pain on them is though. That is an abusive person.

Or it is someone giving their partner what they WANT.

What kind of person WANTS to be hurt? Think about it. With your brain and not your dick.

I do not judge people on their sexual preferences.

 

[ChrisL]

I believe human sexuality reveals pretty much who you really are as a person. People are very good at putting up a false front and pretending to be what they aren't. But that changes in the bedroom and the real you comes out. If you need to paddle someone or tie them up, you're a sick ****. Something is wrong with you that you need to have power over someone or get off on seeing them helpless.

What if the person who recieved the spanking likes it and orgasims? Some people are turned on by different things than you. It does not make them a sick ****.

Yes . . . it does. Sorry. People who enjoy abuse or inflicting it are fucked up.

A playful spanking that excites your partner is not abuse.

Right, a "playful" spanking is not abuse. Beating a person and leaving marks on them and enjoying inflicting pain on them is though. That is an abusive person.

Or it is someone giving their partner what they WANT.

The person who WANTS to be hurt is fucked up too. Lol. That is SO fucked up.

 

[Iceweasel]

I believe human sexuality reveals pretty much who you really are as a person. People are very good at putting up a false front and pretending to be what they aren't. But that changes in the bedroom and the real you comes out. If you need to paddle someone or tie them up, you're a sick ****. Something is wrong with you that you need to have power over someone or get off on seeing them helpless.

What if the person who recieved the spanking likes it and orgasims? Some people are turned on by different things than you. It does not make them a sick ****.

Yes . . . it does. Sorry. People who enjoy abuse or inflicting it are fucked up.

That would be known as an opinion. Your opinion.

Look, stop trying to justify fucked up sexual proclivities. Not everything is "normal" nor should everything be normalized. This is not normal. Abusing your sexual partner is not normal behavior. That is a person who ENJOYS inflicting pain on others. The person who enjoys receiving abuse is just as messed up. You can try to say that it's normal, but it is not obviously to any sane person.

So your definitions of "normal" are what we should all go by and guide our lives by?

I didn't see anyone say that. The point was that pushing the abnormal as normal is wrong, not that people are wanting to dictate your bedroom proclivities.

 

[ChrisL]

Yes . . . it does. Sorry. People who enjoy abuse or inflicting it are fucked up.

A playful spanking that excites your partner is not abuse.

Right, a "playful" spanking is not abuse. Beating a person and leaving marks on them and enjoying inflicting pain on them is though. That is an abusive person.

Or it is someone giving their partner what they WANT.

What kind of person WANTS to be hurt? Think about it. With your brain and not your dick.

I do not judge people on their sexual preferences.

Neither do I, but I don't have to think they are normal or healthy because they are not. Abuse is not normal or healthy under ANY circumstances.

 

[NoNukes]

Who decides what is 'normal'?

The same as always, most folks. The reason books/movies like this get attention is because they are not the norm.

To some people they are normal. You want to inflict your opinions on others. That is not normal.

 

[Dot Com]

One of my clients was in a BDSM marriage. He was the submissive. One night they were having sex when she started beating him in the head with the telephone handpiece. She beat him unconscious. He was bleeding from the ear and it scared her. She called for paramedics. As soon as they got there they knew what happened. They called the police and she was arrested. The poor man was devastated. It was only an accident. They really did adore one another.

Because of the nature of the crime the wife couldn't get out on bail. While we were waiting for trial he called me to complain that he had all these household bills that he couldn't pay without her orders. I went over there, grabbed him by the shirt front, slammed him up against the wall and said "pay the damn bills. All of them."

She eventually got probation. While the acts between them were consensual, she exceeded the consent when he lost consciousness. Slap on the wrist. Be more careful next time.

"slammed him up against the wall"? I thought you said you were 5'7" 135?

5'7" 125

But you do know that size isn't always determinative. Or do you think that the little ladies can't fight?

It has nothing to do w/ "fighting" ability little lady. "slammed against the wall" can only be done by force with weight behind it unless you got a running start which would have alerted your client anyway. And you being 5'7", 125? Aint happenin' sister Why do you always @Tipsycatlover Either you made it up or "your client" is a very small guy like Ernie S., a self-admitted runt, for example.

 

[NoNukes]

A playful spanking that excites your partner is not abuse.

Right, a "playful" spanking is not abuse. Beating a person and leaving marks on them and enjoying inflicting pain on them is though. That is an abusive person.

Or it is someone giving their partner what they WANT.

What kind of person WANTS to be hurt? Think about it. With your brain and not your dick.

I do not judge people on their sexual preferences.

Neither do I, but I don't have to think they are normal or healthy because they are not. Abuse is not normal or healthy under ANY circumstances.

Once again, that is your opinion. Other people have opinions that differ from yours.

 

[ChrisL]

Who decides what is 'normal'?

The same as always, most folks. The reason books/movies like this get attention is because they are not the norm.

To some people they are normal. You want to inflict your opinions on others. That is not normal.

Well, I've got news for them, they are NOT. They have a big problem and probably should get therapy before they really hurt someone or themselves. There is also a thing some people do where they bind themselves and hang themselves and get off from that too. Some actor died from it a few years back.

 

[ChrisL]

Right, a "playful" spanking is not abuse. Beating a person and leaving marks on them and enjoying inflicting pain on them is though. That is an abusive person.

Or it is someone giving their partner what they WANT.

What kind of person WANTS to be hurt? Think about it. With your brain and not your dick.

I do not judge people on their sexual preferences.

Neither do I, but I don't have to think they are normal or healthy because they are not. Abuse is not normal or healthy under ANY circumstances.

Once again, that is your opinion. Other people have opinions that differ from yours.

Some people think having sex with minors is alright too, but we have LAWS against it. Not everything is acceptable to the general population, and yes, you are going to be seen as a weirdo by most people if you engage in abuse of your partner. That is not sex or love. It is abuse and violence under the guise of sex.

 

[WinterBorn]

A little hair pulling, maybe a little spanking, sure that can add to the excitement, but beatings where wounds and bruises are left? That's not sex and that's not love. That's sickness and confusion on the part of the people involved.

You are talking degrees here. A little spanking is ok, but a lot of spanking is not? You have your tastes in what you want. Simply because others have different tastes does not make them ill or confused.

Why do you think they would do that? Because they equate violence with love. That's why. They are at least confused individuals.

Equating violence with love is not a normal response. It's a pathological response and should never be held out as normal.

Normal? What about human sexuality is normal? Is sodomy normal? Is picking your partner based on hair color normal?

Enjoying and being sexually turned on by inflicting pain is not normal. That is a form of abuse. Just because you find someone who is fucked up as yourself (generally speaking - not YOU personally), doesn't mean either of them are healthy.

Perhaps you should contact Psychology Today and give them the benefit of your expertise.

from: BDSM Personality and Mental Health Psychology Today
"A recent study on the psychological profile of BDSM (bondage-discipline, dominance-submission, sadism-masochism) practitioners has attracted a great deal of media attention, with headlines proclaiming that “S&M practitioners are healthier and less neurotic than those with a tamer sex life (link is external).” Although BDSM has often in the past been thought to be associated with psychopathology, the authors of the study argued that practitioners are generally psychologically healthy, if not more so in some respects, compared to the general population"

I am not claiming that BDSMers are healthier or more anything. I am simply saying that what you dislike sexually is not necessarily sick or evidence of a mental disorder.

 

[Katzndogz]

One of my clients was in a BDSM marriage. He was the submissive. One night they were having sex when she started beating him in the head with the telephone handpiece. She beat him unconscious. He was bleeding from the ear and it scared her. She called for paramedics. As soon as they got there they knew what happened. They called the police and she was arrested. The poor man was devastated. It was only an accident. They really did adore one another.

Because of the nature of the crime the wife couldn't get out on bail. While we were waiting for trial he called me to complain that he had all these household bills that he couldn't pay without her orders. I went over there, grabbed him by the shirt front, slammed him up against the wall and said "pay the damn bills. All of them."

She eventually got probation. While the acts between them were consensual, she exceeded the consent when he lost consciousness. Slap on the wrist. Be more careful next time.

"slammed him up against the wall"? I thought you said you were 5'7" 135?

5'7" 125

But you do know that size isn't always determinative. Or do you think that the little ladies can't fight?

It has nothing to do w/ "fighting" ability little lady. "slammed against the wall" can only be done by force with weight behind it unless you got a running start which would have alerted your client anyway. And you being 5'7", 125? Aint happenin' sister Why do you always @Tipsycatlover Either you made it up or "your client" is a very small guy like Ernie S., a self-admitted runt, for example.

Actually my client wanted a woman to beat him up and order him to pay the bills.

 

[Dot Com]

Well, I've got news for them, they are NOT. They have a big problem and probably should get therapy before they really hurt someone or themselves. There is also a thing some people do where they bind themselves and hang themselves and get off from that too. Some actor died from it a few years back.

You sure do like to FORCE your opinion on others ChrisL Ironic

 

[Iceweasel]

Who decides what is 'normal'?

The same as always, most folks. The reason books/movies like this get attention is because they are not the norm.

To some people they are normal. You want to inflict your opinions on others. That is not normal.

Wow, nice twist there Slick. You asked a question and I gave an answer, which is correct. The norm is what determines what's normal. How am I inflicting anything on your ass when you asked the question?

 

[WinterBorn]

Or it is someone giving their partner what they WANT.

What kind of person WANTS to be hurt? Think about it. With your brain and not your dick.

I do not judge people on their sexual preferences.

Neither do I, but I don't have to think they are normal or healthy because they are not. Abuse is not normal or healthy under ANY circumstances.

Once again, that is your opinion. Other people have opinions that differ from yours.

Some people think having sex with minors is alright too, but we have LAWS against it. Not everything is acceptable to the general population, and yes, you are going to be seen as a weirdo by most people if you engage in abuse of your partner. That is not sex or love. It is abuse and violence under the guise of sex.

Minors are protected because they are not mature enough to give consent. Between consenting adults is a different matter.

Look, if you don't want to be spanked, restrained or whatever, then don't do it. But this judgemental nonsense is a waste of time for you and for them. Perhaps there are those who worry more about what other people think than about their own happiness. I pity those people.

 

[Dot Com]

Actually my client wanted a woman to beat him up and order him to pay the bills.

what does that have to do w/ you being able to avoid Newton's Laws of Motion at your discretion? Tipsycatlover

Admit you made it up girlfriend.