Prospect of PG & E Takeover in 2020

[Rambunctious]

Good stuff. I hate PG&E. They are so full of shit. Public utilities should be owned by the city, state, or federal government.

Its understandable that companies burdened with tons of ridiculous government regulation would perform poorly enough to be hated....

They have been given free reign here in CA and they have zero to little competition. They have hiked their prices every fucking year. Pretty sure they are probably pure profit by now.

They’d have to to be able to pay every time the state sues them over their own stinking regulations, keeping them from being able to operate as safely as they can.

Theres nothing keeping them from operating safely except maybe their laziness which is why they were sued and lost.

It was the state and the sierra clubs that should have been sued...not PG&E...

 

[Asclepias]

Back in the Fire discussions the leftist here played the PG & E is the Devil and responsible for the wildfires...........Even when California wouldn't let them have larger Right of Way clearance for trees to power lines in High Winds............

In the End California sued them for the Fires.........Created new laws to have them shut down the grid to avoid fires in High Winds........then Sued them for shutting down the power.

In the end..............What that has taken place is that PG & E was given the choice of GET BEAT BY A STICK ..............Option A................or GET BEAT BY A STICK Option B.

And I stated...........that the whole purpose of the State was to SEIZE PG & E and take over the grid........for the people's own good.........LOL

Now this.
Prospects of PG&E Takeover in 2020 | CalWatchdog.com
The governor’s position appears encouraging to the coalition of Northern California cities that announced in early November that they were working together to craft a plan take over PG&E operations. Those cities: San Jose, Oakland, Berkeley, Sacramento, Hayward, Sunnyvale, Richmond, Redwood City, Petaluma, Sonoma, Windsor, Cotati, Elk Grove, Clovis, Chico, Redding, Davis, Santa Cruz, Scotts Valley and San Luis Obispo. Supervisors from San Mateo, Santa Cruz, Marin, Yolo and San Benito counties also endorsed the effort. The coalition includes local governments with about one-third of PG&E’s 16 million customers in the utility’s 70,000-square-mile service area.

Socializing the power company? Good idea. Worked so well for Venezuela.

Why It's So Hard to Restart Venezuela's Power Grid

Left-wingers couldn't manage their way out of a paper bag. Can't wait till they take over health care.

Sorry but I dont subscribe to the theory that because you fucked up that means I will too.

 

[Crepitus]

Back in the Fire discussions the leftist here played the PG & E is the Devil and responsible for the wildfires...........Even when California wouldn't let them have larger Right of Way clearance for trees to power lines in High Winds............

In the End California sued them for the Fires.........Created new laws to have them shut down the grid to avoid fires in High Winds........then Sued them for shutting down the power.

In the end..............What that has taken place is that PG & E was given the choice of GET BEAT BY A STICK ..............Option A................or GET BEAT BY A STICK Option B.

And I stated...........that the whole purpose of the State was to SEIZE PG & E and take over the grid........for the people's own good.........LOL

Now this.
Prospects of PG&E Takeover in 2020 | CalWatchdog.com
The governor’s position appears encouraging to the coalition of Northern California cities that announced in early November that they were working together to craft a plan take over PG&E operations. Those cities: San Jose, Oakland, Berkeley, Sacramento, Hayward, Sunnyvale, Richmond, Redwood City, Petaluma, Sonoma, Windsor, Cotati, Elk Grove, Clovis, Chico, Redding, Davis, Santa Cruz, Scotts Valley and San Luis Obispo. Supervisors from San Mateo, Santa Cruz, Marin, Yolo and San Benito counties also endorsed the effort. The coalition includes local governments with about one-third of PG&E’s 16 million customers in the utility’s 70,000-square-mile service area.

Pretty sure there's no law about shutting off power.

They got sued I think last year and now they cut off the power whenever the wind blows. To top it all off they are recouping their losses by hiking prices.

Oh, I'm.not saying they didn't do it. I'm just saying I don't think there is a law about it.

 

[eagle1462010]

You folks that are so hot on nationalizing infrastructure should check out those socialist countries you LOATH that have already done so.....

The US has nationalized public roads, SS, and national parks. Pretty sure they would do a good job taking over the power grid.

Nostrovia comrade!

~S~

 

[Rambunctious]

PG&E Clearcuts Power Lines

4 foot and PG & E wanting 30 foot.

Of course here is the Sierra club bitching about it.......and of course they aren't allowed to do it.

Then the winds go to 70mph plus and smack the power lines.........

And then some are damaged causing SPARKS............DUH........and fires.

So they can bitch about the fires tomorrow.........

This has been a set up to TAKE THE UTILITY FROM DAY ONE.

If they were smart they would run them underground in areas where there is a fire danger.

Again a lib not understanding cost.....thinks every company has endless amounts of cash....

 

[Andylusion]

You folks that are so hot on nationalizing infrastructure should check out those socialist countries you LOATH that have already done so.....

Why It's So Hard to Restart Venezuela's Power Grid
Venezuelan City Devastated by Looting During Power Outages

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[Asclepias]

Good stuff. I hate PG&E. They are so full of shit. Public utilities should be owned by the city, state, or federal government.

Its understandable that companies burdened with tons of ridiculous government regulation would perform poorly enough to be hated....

They have been given free reign here in CA and they have zero to little competition. They have hiked their prices every fucking year. Pretty sure they are probably pure profit by now.

They’d have to to be able to pay every time the state sues them over their own stinking regulations, keeping them from being able to operate as safely as they can.

Theres nothing keeping them from operating safely except maybe their laziness which is why they were sued and lost.

It was the state and the sierra clubs that should have been sued...not PG&E...

Obviously you didnt go to law school. I mean I didnt either but I do know you have to be liable in order to lose a lawsuit.

 

[eagle1462010]

Back in the Fire discussions the leftist here played the PG & E is the Devil and responsible for the wildfires...........Even when California wouldn't let them have larger Right of Way clearance for trees to power lines in High Winds............

In the End California sued them for the Fires.........Created new laws to have them shut down the grid to avoid fires in High Winds........then Sued them for shutting down the power.

In the end..............What that has taken place is that PG & E was given the choice of GET BEAT BY A STICK ..............Option A................or GET BEAT BY A STICK Option B.

And I stated...........that the whole purpose of the State was to SEIZE PG & E and take over the grid........for the people's own good.........LOL

Now this.
Prospects of PG&E Takeover in 2020 | CalWatchdog.com
The governor’s position appears encouraging to the coalition of Northern California cities that announced in early November that they were working together to craft a plan take over PG&E operations. Those cities: San Jose, Oakland, Berkeley, Sacramento, Hayward, Sunnyvale, Richmond, Redwood City, Petaluma, Sonoma, Windsor, Cotati, Elk Grove, Clovis, Chico, Redding, Davis, Santa Cruz, Scotts Valley and San Luis Obispo. Supervisors from San Mateo, Santa Cruz, Marin, Yolo and San Benito counties also endorsed the effort. The coalition includes local governments with about one-third of PG&E’s 16 million customers in the utility’s 70,000-square-mile service area.

Pretty sure there's no law about shutting off power.

They got sued I think last year and now they cut off the power whenever the wind blows. To top it all off they are recouping their losses by hiking prices.

Oh, I'm.not saying they didn't do it. I'm just saying I don't think there is a law about it.

I posted the article to the law requiring them to shut down the power in high winds...........then right after it I posted how they got ticked and sued when PG & E turned off the power due to high wind.

That is EXACTLY WHY I said they were given the Option to Get Beaten by a Stick or Get Beaten by a stick

 

[Asclepias]

PG&E Clearcuts Power Lines

4 foot and PG & E wanting 30 foot.

Of course here is the Sierra club bitching about it.......and of course they aren't allowed to do it.

Then the winds go to 70mph plus and smack the power lines.........

And then some are damaged causing SPARKS............DUH........and fires.

So they can bitch about the fires tomorrow.........

This has been a set up to TAKE THE UTILITY FROM DAY ONE.

If they were smart they would run them underground in areas where there is a fire danger.

Again a lib not understanding cost.....thinks every company has endless amounts of cash....

If they dont have the money then they cant do the job. Thats a great reason to let the government take over the power grid. Those fuckers never heard of a business loan?

 

[Rambunctious]

California has fucked up every utility in the state...I contend its because they are sabotaging them so they can get the people to favor government takeover....
Like the fast and furious of utility companies....

 

[Asclepias]

Back in the Fire discussions the leftist here played the PG & E is the Devil and responsible for the wildfires...........Even when California wouldn't let them have larger Right of Way clearance for trees to power lines in High Winds............

In the End California sued them for the Fires.........Created new laws to have them shut down the grid to avoid fires in High Winds........then Sued them for shutting down the power.

In the end..............What that has taken place is that PG & E was given the choice of GET BEAT BY A STICK ..............Option A................or GET BEAT BY A STICK Option B.

And I stated...........that the whole purpose of the State was to SEIZE PG & E and take over the grid........for the people's own good.........LOL

Now this.
Prospects of PG&E Takeover in 2020 | CalWatchdog.com
The governor’s position appears encouraging to the coalition of Northern California cities that announced in early November that they were working together to craft a plan take over PG&E operations. Those cities: San Jose, Oakland, Berkeley, Sacramento, Hayward, Sunnyvale, Richmond, Redwood City, Petaluma, Sonoma, Windsor, Cotati, Elk Grove, Clovis, Chico, Redding, Davis, Santa Cruz, Scotts Valley and San Luis Obispo. Supervisors from San Mateo, Santa Cruz, Marin, Yolo and San Benito counties also endorsed the effort. The coalition includes local governments with about one-third of PG&E’s 16 million customers in the utility’s 70,000-square-mile service area.

Pretty sure there's no law about shutting off power.

They got sued I think last year and now they cut off the power whenever the wind blows. To top it all off they are recouping their losses by hiking prices.

Oh, I'm.not saying they didn't do it. I'm just saying I don't think there is a law about it.

I posted the article to the law requiring them to shut down the power in high winds...........then right after it I posted how they got ticked and sued when PG & E turned off the power due to high wind.

That is EXACTLY WHY I said they were given the Option to Get Beaten by a Stick or Get Beaten by a stick

They were turning off power in areas where there was zero fire danger. They were doing it to make a point after getting sued.

 

[Crepitus]

Back in the Fire discussions the leftist here played the PG & E is the Devil and responsible for the wildfires...........Even when California wouldn't let them have larger Right of Way clearance for trees to power lines in High Winds............

In the End California sued them for the Fires.........Created new laws to have them shut down the grid to avoid fires in High Winds........then Sued them for shutting down the power.

In the end..............What that has taken place is that PG & E was given the choice of GET BEAT BY A STICK ..............Option A................or GET BEAT BY A STICK Option B.

And I stated...........that the whole purpose of the State was to SEIZE PG & E and take over the grid........for the people's own good.........LOL

Now this.
Prospects of PG&E Takeover in 2020 | CalWatchdog.com
The governor’s position appears encouraging to the coalition of Northern California cities that announced in early November that they were working together to craft a plan take over PG&E operations. Those cities: San Jose, Oakland, Berkeley, Sacramento, Hayward, Sunnyvale, Richmond, Redwood City, Petaluma, Sonoma, Windsor, Cotati, Elk Grove, Clovis, Chico, Redding, Davis, Santa Cruz, Scotts Valley and San Luis Obispo. Supervisors from San Mateo, Santa Cruz, Marin, Yolo and San Benito counties also endorsed the effort. The coalition includes local governments with about one-third of PG&E’s 16 million customers in the utility’s 70,000-square-mile service area.

Pretty sure there's no law about shutting off power.

They got sued I think last year and now they cut off the power whenever the wind blows. To top it all off they are recouping their losses by hiking prices.

Oh, I'm.not saying they didn't do it. I'm just saying I don't think there is a law about it.

I posted the article to the law requiring them to shut down the power in high winds...........then right after it I posted how they got ticked and sued when PG & E turned off the power due to high wind.

That is EXACTLY WHY I said they were given the Option to Get Beaten by a Stick or Get Beaten by a stick

I read the article.

I'm guessing you didn't.

 

[Rambunctious]

Its understandable that companies burdened with tons of ridiculous government regulation would perform poorly enough to be hated....

They have been given free reign here in CA and they have zero to little competition. They have hiked their prices every fucking year. Pretty sure they are probably pure profit by now.

They’d have to to be able to pay every time the state sues them over their own stinking regulations, keeping them from being able to operate as safely as they can.

Theres nothing keeping them from operating safely except maybe their laziness which is why they were sued and lost.

It was the state and the sierra clubs that should have been sued...not PG&E...

Obviously you didnt go to law school. I mean I didnt either but I do know you have to be liable in order to lose a lawsuit.

Not when the courts are in the hands of the legislature...

 

[Asclepias]

They have been given free reign here in CA and they have zero to little competition. They have hiked their prices every fucking year. Pretty sure they are probably pure profit by now.

They’d have to to be able to pay every time the state sues them over their own stinking regulations, keeping them from being able to operate as safely as they can.

Theres nothing keeping them from operating safely except maybe their laziness which is why they were sued and lost.

It was the state and the sierra clubs that should have been sued...not PG&E...

Obviously you didnt go to law school. I mean I didnt either but I do know you have to be liable in order to lose a lawsuit.

Not when the courts are in the hands of the legislature...

It was pretty obvious they didnt do what they were supposed to do. Thats why they got sued. To say changing out their vehicles stopped them from doing that is one of the stupidest excuses I have heard in quite awhile.

 

[Rambunctious]

Back in the Fire discussions the leftist here played the PG & E is the Devil and responsible for the wildfires...........Even when California wouldn't let them have larger Right of Way clearance for trees to power lines in High Winds............

In the End California sued them for the Fires.........Created new laws to have them shut down the grid to avoid fires in High Winds........then Sued them for shutting down the power.

In the end..............What that has taken place is that PG & E was given the choice of GET BEAT BY A STICK ..............Option A................or GET BEAT BY A STICK Option B.

And I stated...........that the whole purpose of the State was to SEIZE PG & E and take over the grid........for the people's own good.........LOL

Now this.
Prospects of PG&E Takeover in 2020 | CalWatchdog.com
The governor’s position appears encouraging to the coalition of Northern California cities that announced in early November that they were working together to craft a plan take over PG&E operations. Those cities: San Jose, Oakland, Berkeley, Sacramento, Hayward, Sunnyvale, Richmond, Redwood City, Petaluma, Sonoma, Windsor, Cotati, Elk Grove, Clovis, Chico, Redding, Davis, Santa Cruz, Scotts Valley and San Luis Obispo. Supervisors from San Mateo, Santa Cruz, Marin, Yolo and San Benito counties also endorsed the effort. The coalition includes local governments with about one-third of PG&E’s 16 million customers in the utility’s 70,000-square-mile service area.

Pretty sure there's no law about shutting off power.

They got sued I think last year and now they cut off the power whenever the wind blows. To top it all off they are recouping their losses by hiking prices.

Oh, I'm.not saying they didn't do it. I'm just saying I don't think there is a law about it.

I posted the article to the law requiring them to shut down the power in high winds...........then right after it I posted how they got ticked and sued when PG & E turned off the power due to high wind.

That is EXACTLY WHY I said they were given the Option to Get Beaten by a Stick or Get Beaten by a stick

They were turning off power in areas where there was zero fire danger. They were doing it to make a point after getting sued.

That's not true...when they shut power off they must do it by grid..so some areas without santa ana conditions get shut off too...why don't you turn you ranker on government?...they are the people that have failed Californians....

 

[eagle1462010]

Back in the Fire discussions the leftist here played the PG & E is the Devil and responsible for the wildfires...........Even when California wouldn't let them have larger Right of Way clearance for trees to power lines in High Winds............

In the End California sued them for the Fires.........Created new laws to have them shut down the grid to avoid fires in High Winds........then Sued them for shutting down the power.

In the end..............What that has taken place is that PG & E was given the choice of GET BEAT BY A STICK ..............Option A................or GET BEAT BY A STICK Option B.

And I stated...........that the whole purpose of the State was to SEIZE PG & E and take over the grid........for the people's own good.........LOL

Now this.
Prospects of PG&E Takeover in 2020 | CalWatchdog.com
The governor’s position appears encouraging to the coalition of Northern California cities that announced in early November that they were working together to craft a plan take over PG&E operations. Those cities: San Jose, Oakland, Berkeley, Sacramento, Hayward, Sunnyvale, Richmond, Redwood City, Petaluma, Sonoma, Windsor, Cotati, Elk Grove, Clovis, Chico, Redding, Davis, Santa Cruz, Scotts Valley and San Luis Obispo. Supervisors from San Mateo, Santa Cruz, Marin, Yolo and San Benito counties also endorsed the effort. The coalition includes local governments with about one-third of PG&E’s 16 million customers in the utility’s 70,000-square-mile service area.

Pretty sure there's no law about shutting off power.

To Prevent Wildfires, California Mandates Power Shutoffs

California power outage: PG&E stuck in 'position of their own making'

SAN FRANCISCO – In cutting power to more than 2 million California residents Wednesday, Pacific Gas and Electric once again earned the wrath of citizens and politicians alike.

But, others note, the utility company was damned if it did, and damned if it didn’t go with the extreme measure, enacted in an effort to avoid once again sparking wildfires as fierce winds kicked up around the state.

That says the regulators voted in favor of PG&E's plan. No laws.

They required them to shut down the grid in High winds...............then when they did it they went after them again.



And the BS Governor spouting his |BS....................your sorry ass set them up to take the dang utility......

Now he's bitching about the outage THAT HE FUCKING ORDERED.............

Up yours Dems.

 

[Rambunctious]

They’d have to to be able to pay every time the state sues them over their own stinking regulations, keeping them from being able to operate as safely as they can.

Theres nothing keeping them from operating safely except maybe their laziness which is why they were sued and lost.

It was the state and the sierra clubs that should have been sued...not PG&E...

Obviously you didnt go to law school. I mean I didnt either but I do know you have to be liable in order to lose a lawsuit.

Not when the courts are in the hands of the legislature...

It was pretty obvious they didnt do what they were supposed to do. Thats why they got sued. To say changing out their vehicles stopped them from doing that is one of the stupidest excuses I have heard in quite awhile.

They were given two years to fix their cars and trucks so California would be green....they had to divert funds...just like you do in your home when rates go up...and its government regs that increase rates....

 

[Asclepias]

Theres nothing keeping them from operating safely except maybe their laziness which is why they were sued and lost.

It was the state and the sierra clubs that should have been sued...not PG&E...

Obviously you didnt go to law school. I mean I didnt either but I do know you have to be liable in order to lose a lawsuit.

Not when the courts are in the hands of the legislature...

It was pretty obvious they didnt do what they were supposed to do. Thats why they got sued. To say changing out their vehicles stopped them from doing that is one of the stupidest excuses I have heard in quite awhile.

They were given two years to fix their cars and trucks so California would be green....they had to divert funds...just like you do in your home when rates go up...and its government regs that increase rates....

You appear to know little to nothing about how businesses operate. How fucking hard would it have been for them to get a loan for the new vehicles? They obviously snowed your dumb ass with that excuse but believe me. No company of that size has a problem getting funds. There are people lined up waiting to give them money.

 

[eagle1462010]

LOL

Ordered to shut off power............then the State tells the people look WHAT PG & E did................So the people HATE them......and accept the take over.

IN HONOR OF CALIFORNIA..........I GIVE YOU THIS VIDEO........

 

[Asclepias]

LOL

Ordered to shut off power............then the State tells the people look WHAT PG & E did................So the people HATE them......and accept the take over.

IN HONOR OF CALIFORNIA..........I GIVE YOU THIS VIDEO........

I hated PG&E long before the fires. I had to call the PUC on them multiple times.