Private Gun Sales.

[westwall]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

I disagree as regards felons. Felons have proven that they have no regard for the Rights of others so I have no problem limiting theirs.

you arent the god that gives and takes our rights,, but thanks for your opinion,,

I agree, but felons are proven to not care about MY Rights, so why should I care about theirs?

that depends on the felony theyre being accused of,, with all the laws on the books some say you commit several a day and dont even know it,, and have nothing to do with other people,,

Accidental Felons & Unwitting Crimes | Charles Koch Institute

According to attorney Harvey Silverglate, the average American inadvertently commits three arguable felonies in a given day. Learn how this is possible.

www.charleskochinstitute.org

This I can agree to. Crimes against people and I don't give a shit about you. Crimes that are procedural I would take on a case by case situation.

 

[westwall]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

I disagree as regards felons. Felons have proven that they have no regard for the Rights of others so I have no problem limiting theirs.

you arent the god that gives and takes our rights,, but thanks for your opinion,,

I agree, but felons are proven to not care about MY Rights, so why should I care about theirs?

that depends on the felony theyre being accused of,, with all the laws on the books some say you commit several a day and dont even know it,, and have nothing to do with other people,,

Accidental Felons & Unwitting Crimes | Charles Koch Institute

According to attorney Harvey Silverglate, the average American inadvertently commits three arguable felonies in a given day. Learn how this is possible.

www.charleskochinstitute.org

Isn't Tommy Chong a felon?

And Tim Allen?



Lot's of people get a felony hung on them in this country.

And there is a procedure to get gun rights back.

It's called a Relief of Disability.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I just got one from a private individual. And , it ain't got no serial number.

If you're in the U.S., you are committing a felony in most states Cops - AND judges - tend to frown on that situation.
I've bought and sold to guys I did not know well. I kept the bill of sale and insisted on seeing their driver's license to confirm the name on the BoS. It isn't the business of anyone in government to restrict a citizen's right to commerce. If the 2 bills the Dems are pushing now make it to Biden's desk, it will create millions of citizens who will become felons overnight. Not even the dimmest and most hateful Marxists in DC actually believe they can confiscate all the guns.
What they want is to spread fear and have a legal tool to silence opposition. The message will get out quickly that if you say anything online they don't like, expect a knock at the door. I seem to recall one such Stasi-member in training right here. A signature exhorting people to drop a dime on anyone they don't like. That kind is also coward trash who'd NEVER challenge a man to his face.

Firearms did not have serial numbers on them until after 1968

Not true. Most firearms have had serial numbers from the beginning. After 1968 they were required on all production firearms.

I have a lot of firearms made before 1968 that do not have serial numbers

 

[westwall]

I just got one from a private individual. And , it ain't got no serial number.

If you're in the U.S., you are committing a felony in most states Cops - AND judges - tend to frown on that situation.
I've bought and sold to guys I did not know well. I kept the bill of sale and insisted on seeing their driver's license to confirm the name on the BoS. It isn't the business of anyone in government to restrict a citizen's right to commerce. If the 2 bills the Dems are pushing now make it to Biden's desk, it will create millions of citizens who will become felons overnight. Not even the dimmest and most hateful Marxists in DC actually believe they can confiscate all the guns.
What they want is to spread fear and have a legal tool to silence opposition. The message will get out quickly that if you say anything online they don't like, expect a knock at the door. I seem to recall one such Stasi-member in training right here. A signature exhorting people to drop a dime on anyone they don't like. That kind is also coward trash who'd NEVER challenge a man to his face.

Firearms did not have serial numbers on them until after 1968

Not true. Most firearms have had serial numbers from the beginning. After 1968 they were required on all production firearms.

I have a lot of firearms made before 1968 that do not have serial numbers

Long guns only. Almost all hand gun makers serialed their products going back to the mid 1800's. Most quality gun makers serial numbered their long guns too. However some didn't bother with their. 22 rifles.

 

[Blues Man]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

I disagree as regards felons. Felons have proven that they have no regard for the Rights of others so I have no problem limiting theirs.

you arent the god that gives and takes our rights,, but thanks for your opinion,,

If you commit a felony you have given up your rights by being irresponsible

 

[Blues Man]

.

I don’t sell many of my firearms but when I do I require the buyer have a valid Florida Concealed Weapons Permit. That way I know he has had a background check and some safety training with firearms. Plus people who have a concealed weapons permit rarely commit violent crimes.

More Guns, Less Crime: Concealed-carry Permit Holders More Law-abiding Than Police

Despite fears by proponents of gun control that more guns means more crime, citizens with concealed-carry permits actually commit crimes at a lower rate than police. by Bob Adelmann

thenewamerican.com

That's a good policy.

 

[miketx]

Keller's Riverside Store

A radio ad from Keller's Riverside Store located on the beautiful Llano River in the heart of Texas.

biggeekdad.com

Get your gun license. Watch all the video, it gets good at the end.

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

I disagree as regards felons. Felons have proven that they have no regard for the Rights of others so I have no problem limiting theirs.

you arent the god that gives and takes our rights,, but thanks for your opinion,,

If you commit a felony you have given up your rights by being irresponsible

sorry but youre not the god that gives and takes rights away,,

you leftist are always the same,, you attack anyone that doesnt toe the line,,,

 

[Blues Man]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

I disagree as regards felons. Felons have proven that they have no regard for the Rights of others so I have no problem limiting theirs.

you arent the god that gives and takes our rights,, but thanks for your opinion,,

If you commit a felony you have given up your rights by being irresponsible

sorry but youre not the god that gives and takes rights away,,

you leftist are always the same,, you attack anyone that doesnt toe the line,,,

What you don't realize is that I cannot violate any of your rights.

I don't have to sell you a gun if I don't want to. I don't have to allow you the right to say whatever you want in my home or business. etc

The Bill of Rights only protects you from the government violating your rights.

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

I disagree as regards felons. Felons have proven that they have no regard for the Rights of others so I have no problem limiting theirs.

you arent the god that gives and takes our rights,, but thanks for your opinion,,

If you commit a felony you have given up your rights by being irresponsible

sorry but youre not the god that gives and takes rights away,,

you leftist are always the same,, you attack anyone that doesnt toe the line,,,

What you don't realize is that I cannot violate any of your rights.

I don't have to sell you a gun if I don't want to. I don't have to allow you the right to say whatever you want in my home or business. etc

The Bill of Rights only protects you from the government violating your rights.

youre opinion can start the process and support it,,,

 

[Blues Man]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

I disagree as regards felons. Felons have proven that they have no regard for the Rights of others so I have no problem limiting theirs.

you arent the god that gives and takes our rights,, but thanks for your opinion,,

If you commit a felony you have given up your rights by being irresponsible

sorry but youre not the god that gives and takes rights away,,

you leftist are always the same,, you attack anyone that doesnt toe the line,,,

What you don't realize is that I cannot violate any of your rights.

I don't have to sell you a gun if I don't want to. I don't have to allow you the right to say whatever you want in my home or business. etc

The Bill of Rights only protects you from the government violating your rights.

youre opinion can start the process and support it,,,

I had nothing to do with federal gun laws that are on the books.

I just happen to agree that people who choose to commit felonies shouldn't own guns because they have already proven they are incapable of handling the responsibility.

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

I disagree as regards felons. Felons have proven that they have no regard for the Rights of others so I have no problem limiting theirs.

you arent the god that gives and takes our rights,, but thanks for your opinion,,

If you commit a felony you have given up your rights by being irresponsible

sorry but youre not the god that gives and takes rights away,,

you leftist are always the same,, you attack anyone that doesnt toe the line,,,

What you don't realize is that I cannot violate any of your rights.

I don't have to sell you a gun if I don't want to. I don't have to allow you the right to say whatever you want in my home or business. etc

The Bill of Rights only protects you from the government violating your rights.

youre opinion can start the process and support it,,,

I had nothing to do with federal gun laws that are on the books.

I just happen to agree that people who choose to commit felonies shouldn't own guns because they have already proven they are incapable of handling the responsibility.

how would you know if someone has committed a felony???

did you commit any??
if I can prove you did will you turn over you guns??

 

[Blues Man]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

I disagree as regards felons. Felons have proven that they have no regard for the Rights of others so I have no problem limiting theirs.

you arent the god that gives and takes our rights,, but thanks for your opinion,,

If you commit a felony you have given up your rights by being irresponsible

sorry but youre not the god that gives and takes rights away,,

you leftist are always the same,, you attack anyone that doesnt toe the line,,,

What you don't realize is that I cannot violate any of your rights.

I don't have to sell you a gun if I don't want to. I don't have to allow you the right to say whatever you want in my home or business. etc

The Bill of Rights only protects you from the government violating your rights.

youre opinion can start the process and support it,,,

I had nothing to do with federal gun laws that are on the books.

I just happen to agree that people who choose to commit felonies shouldn't own guns because they have already proven they are incapable of handling the responsibility.

how would you know if someone has committed a felony???

did you commit any??
if I can prove you did will you turn over you guns??

I would check. If a person has been convicted of a felony it is public record.

And I have never been charged or convicted of a felony.

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

I disagree as regards felons. Felons have proven that they have no regard for the Rights of others so I have no problem limiting theirs.

you arent the god that gives and takes our rights,, but thanks for your opinion,,

If you commit a felony you have given up your rights by being irresponsible

sorry but youre not the god that gives and takes rights away,,

you leftist are always the same,, you attack anyone that doesnt toe the line,,,

What you don't realize is that I cannot violate any of your rights.

I don't have to sell you a gun if I don't want to. I don't have to allow you the right to say whatever you want in my home or business. etc

The Bill of Rights only protects you from the government violating your rights.

youre opinion can start the process and support it,,,

I had nothing to do with federal gun laws that are on the books.

I just happen to agree that people who choose to commit felonies shouldn't own guns because they have already proven they are incapable of handling the responsibility.

how would you know if someone has committed a felony???

did you commit any??
if I can prove you did will you turn over you guns??

I would check. If a person has been convicted of a felony it is public record.

And I have never been charged or convicted of a felony.

we arent talking about what youve been convicted of,, we are talking about what youve done,,

how many felonies do you think you commit each yr??

 

[Blues Man]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

I disagree as regards felons. Felons have proven that they have no regard for the Rights of others so I have no problem limiting theirs.

you arent the god that gives and takes our rights,, but thanks for your opinion,,

If you commit a felony you have given up your rights by being irresponsible

sorry but youre not the god that gives and takes rights away,,

you leftist are always the same,, you attack anyone that doesnt toe the line,,,

What you don't realize is that I cannot violate any of your rights.

I don't have to sell you a gun if I don't want to. I don't have to allow you the right to say whatever you want in my home or business. etc

The Bill of Rights only protects you from the government violating your rights.

youre opinion can start the process and support it,,,

I had nothing to do with federal gun laws that are on the books.

I just happen to agree that people who choose to commit felonies shouldn't own guns because they have already proven they are incapable of handling the responsibility.

how would you know if someone has committed a felony???

did you commit any??
if I can prove you did will you turn over you guns??

I would check. If a person has been convicted of a felony it is public record.

And I have never been charged or convicted of a felony.

we arent talking about what youve been convicted of,, we are talking about what youve done,,

how many felonies do you think you commit each yr??

All that matters is what a person has been convicted of.

Because that's the only thing we can get reliable data for.

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

I disagree as regards felons. Felons have proven that they have no regard for the Rights of others so I have no problem limiting theirs.

you arent the god that gives and takes our rights,, but thanks for your opinion,,

If you commit a felony you have given up your rights by being irresponsible

sorry but youre not the god that gives and takes rights away,,

you leftist are always the same,, you attack anyone that doesnt toe the line,,,

What you don't realize is that I cannot violate any of your rights.

I don't have to sell you a gun if I don't want to. I don't have to allow you the right to say whatever you want in my home or business. etc

The Bill of Rights only protects you from the government violating your rights.

youre opinion can start the process and support it,,,

I had nothing to do with federal gun laws that are on the books.

I just happen to agree that people who choose to commit felonies shouldn't own guns because they have already proven they are incapable of handling the responsibility.

how would you know if someone has committed a felony???

did you commit any??
if I can prove you did will you turn over you guns??

I would check. If a person has been convicted of a felony it is public record.

And I have never been charged or convicted of a felony.

we arent talking about what youve been convicted of,, we are talking about what youve done,,

how many felonies do you think you commit each yr??

All that matters is what a person has been convicted of.

Because that's the only thing we can get reliable data for.

theres good data that everyone commits several felonies a yr,, so by your leftist standard no one should be allowed to own a gun,,,

I see your goal and reject its intent,,

 

[Blues Man]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

I disagree as regards felons. Felons have proven that they have no regard for the Rights of others so I have no problem limiting theirs.

you arent the god that gives and takes our rights,, but thanks for your opinion,,

If you commit a felony you have given up your rights by being irresponsible

sorry but youre not the god that gives and takes rights away,,

you leftist are always the same,, you attack anyone that doesnt toe the line,,,

What you don't realize is that I cannot violate any of your rights.

I don't have to sell you a gun if I don't want to. I don't have to allow you the right to say whatever you want in my home or business. etc

The Bill of Rights only protects you from the government violating your rights.

youre opinion can start the process and support it,,,

I had nothing to do with federal gun laws that are on the books.

I just happen to agree that people who choose to commit felonies shouldn't own guns because they have already proven they are incapable of handling the responsibility.

how would you know if someone has committed a felony???

did you commit any??
if I can prove you did will you turn over you guns??

I would check. If a person has been convicted of a felony it is public record.

And I have never been charged or convicted of a felony.

we arent talking about what youve been convicted of,, we are talking about what youve done,,

how many felonies do you think you commit each yr??

All that matters is what a person has been convicted of.

Because that's the only thing we can get reliable data for.

theres good data that everyone commits several felonies a yr,, so by your leftist standard no one should be allowed to own a gun,,,

I see your goal and reject its intent,,

No there really isn't. If there was you could tell me what felonies I have allegedly committed this year.

And FYI the federal law specifically states convicted felons so your attempt to move the goal posts is noted.

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

I disagree as regards felons. Felons have proven that they have no regard for the Rights of others so I have no problem limiting theirs.

you arent the god that gives and takes our rights,, but thanks for your opinion,,

If you commit a felony you have given up your rights by being irresponsible

sorry but youre not the god that gives and takes rights away,,

you leftist are always the same,, you attack anyone that doesnt toe the line,,,

What you don't realize is that I cannot violate any of your rights.

I don't have to sell you a gun if I don't want to. I don't have to allow you the right to say whatever you want in my home or business. etc

The Bill of Rights only protects you from the government violating your rights.

youre opinion can start the process and support it,,,

I had nothing to do with federal gun laws that are on the books.

I just happen to agree that people who choose to commit felonies shouldn't own guns because they have already proven they are incapable of handling the responsibility.

how would you know if someone has committed a felony???

did you commit any??
if I can prove you did will you turn over you guns??

I would check. If a person has been convicted of a felony it is public record.

And I have never been charged or convicted of a felony.

we arent talking about what youve been convicted of,, we are talking about what youve done,,

how many felonies do you think you commit each yr??

All that matters is what a person has been convicted of.

Because that's the only thing we can get reliable data for.

theres good data that everyone commits several felonies a yr,, so by your leftist standard no one should be allowed to own a gun,,,

I see your goal and reject its intent,,

No there really isn't. If there was you could tell me what felonies I have allegedly committed this year.

And FYI the federal law specifically states convicted felons so your attempt to move the goal posts is noted.

Second Amendment
Second Amendment Annotated


A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

sorry I'm not seeing that in the fed law,,,

you leftist are the ones moving the goal post,,

 

[Blues Man]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

I disagree as regards felons. Felons have proven that they have no regard for the Rights of others so I have no problem limiting theirs.

you arent the god that gives and takes our rights,, but thanks for your opinion,,

If you commit a felony you have given up your rights by being irresponsible

sorry but youre not the god that gives and takes rights away,,

you leftist are always the same,, you attack anyone that doesnt toe the line,,,

What you don't realize is that I cannot violate any of your rights.

I don't have to sell you a gun if I don't want to. I don't have to allow you the right to say whatever you want in my home or business. etc

The Bill of Rights only protects you from the government violating your rights.

youre opinion can start the process and support it,,,

I had nothing to do with federal gun laws that are on the books.

I just happen to agree that people who choose to commit felonies shouldn't own guns because they have already proven they are incapable of handling the responsibility.

how would you know if someone has committed a felony???

did you commit any??
if I can prove you did will you turn over you guns??

I would check. If a person has been convicted of a felony it is public record.

And I have never been charged or convicted of a felony.

we arent talking about what youve been convicted of,, we are talking about what youve done,,

how many felonies do you think you commit each yr??

All that matters is what a person has been convicted of.

Because that's the only thing we can get reliable data for.

theres good data that everyone commits several felonies a yr,, so by your leftist standard no one should be allowed to own a gun,,,

I see your goal and reject its intent,,

No there really isn't. If there was you could tell me what felonies I have allegedly committed this year.

And FYI the federal law specifically states convicted felons so your attempt to move the goal posts is noted.

Second Amendment
Second Amendment Annotated


A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

sorry I'm not seeing that in the fed law,,,

you leftist are the ones moving the goal post,,

Constitutional amendments themselves are not laws.

And now I'm a leftists. I wish you people would make up your minds.

So tell me if it is unconstitutional for there to be a federal gun law that states convicted felons are not allowed to possess firearms, why aren't you challenging that law and taking it to the Supreme Court?

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

I disagree as regards felons. Felons have proven that they have no regard for the Rights of others so I have no problem limiting theirs.

you arent the god that gives and takes our rights,, but thanks for your opinion,,

If you commit a felony you have given up your rights by being irresponsible

sorry but youre not the god that gives and takes rights away,,

you leftist are always the same,, you attack anyone that doesnt toe the line,,,

What you don't realize is that I cannot violate any of your rights.

I don't have to sell you a gun if I don't want to. I don't have to allow you the right to say whatever you want in my home or business. etc

The Bill of Rights only protects you from the government violating your rights.

youre opinion can start the process and support it,,,

I had nothing to do with federal gun laws that are on the books.

I just happen to agree that people who choose to commit felonies shouldn't own guns because they have already proven they are incapable of handling the responsibility.

how would you know if someone has committed a felony???

did you commit any??
if I can prove you did will you turn over you guns??

I would check. If a person has been convicted of a felony it is public record.

And I have never been charged or convicted of a felony.

we arent talking about what youve been convicted of,, we are talking about what youve done,,

how many felonies do you think you commit each yr??

All that matters is what a person has been convicted of.

Because that's the only thing we can get reliable data for.

theres good data that everyone commits several felonies a yr,, so by your leftist standard no one should be allowed to own a gun,,,

I see your goal and reject its intent,,

No there really isn't. If there was you could tell me what felonies I have allegedly committed this year.

And FYI the federal law specifically states convicted felons so your attempt to move the goal posts is noted.

Second Amendment
Second Amendment Annotated


A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

sorry I'm not seeing that in the fed law,,,

you leftist are the ones moving the goal post,,

Constitutional amendments themselves are not laws.

And now I'm a leftists. I wish you people would make up your minds.

So tell me if it is unconstitutional for there to be a federal gun law that states convicted felons are not allowed to possess firearms, why aren't you challenging that law and taking it to the Supreme Court?

as usual when a leftist cant defend their POV they start with the personal attacks,,,

its not about me,,

dont get mad at me, youre the one defending unconstitutional laws that take away a persons rights,,,

and who are "you people"??? americans?? cause thats what I am,,