President Trump orders attack on Venezuelan drug runners at sea

[otto105]

That's what I understood.

But if you have proof it was a different Terrorist group, we'd love to hear it.

You understand it based on what.

 

[Correll]

Lie.

And yet, here we see it happening in real time and nary a peep about it, except from the standard ORANGE MAN BAD crowd.

 

[BackAgain]

What's our legal definition for the word terrorist?

The generally agreed upon definition is anyone who uses the threat of violence (and the massive casualties our people suffer due to this poison satisfies that definition) to compel nations to do what they (the terrorists) want.

It may be that you imagine that a terrorist has to employ guns or bombs, etc., to accomplish that objective. But why? The extraordinary numbers of our people killed by fentanyl alone is very serious. Don’t they count?

Just utter lies and bullcrap....

nonsense. Just because you choose to disbelieve the official reasons for taking out that vessel doesn’t amount to proof of your contention.

and twisting and turning and rewriting the circumstances and actual words and their definition, HAS GOT TO STOP....

All of which demands that everyone accept your supported premises. But your contentions aren’t supported.

your made up excuses is killing our Nation!

No for a couple of reasons. Neither I nor the government have been shown to have made up any excuses at all. And killing drug runners on their drug running missions isn’t killing our nation. Indeed, it instead serves to help protect our nation and her people

AND Nothing was imminent....

Again. I don’t give a rat’s ass about imminent in this matter.

 

[BackAgain]

Are you saying that you do know what the spooks know, or is just your assumption?

If you can point out anywhere where I made such a claim, quote it and then ask again.

 

[otto105]

The generally agreed upon definition is anyone who uses the threat of violence (and the massive casualties our people suffer due to this poison satisfies that definition) to compel nations to do what they (the terrorists) want.

It may be that you imagine that a terrorist has to employ guns or bombs, etc., to accomplish that objective. But why? The extraordinary numbers of our people killed by fentanyl alone is very serious. Don’t they count?

nonsense. Just because you choose to disbelieve the official reasons for taking out that vessel doesn’t amount to proof of your contention.


All of which demands that everyone accept your supported premises. But your contentions aren’t supported.

No for a couple of reasons. Neither I nor the government have been shown to have made up any excuses at all. And killing drug runners on their drug running missions isn’t killing our nation. Indeed, it instead serves to help protect our nation and her people

Again. I don’t give a rat’s ass about imminent in this matter.

Explain J6 then

 

[konradv]

Can you chew gum and walk at the same time? The boat was carrying bags of drugs and AND invaders. A boat like that does not need more than two people to crew. The other 9 were illegals being smuggled in.

We’d know a lot more, if we boarded, searched and interrogated. You’re just guessing. We don’t really know if they were carrying drugs OR invaders.

 

[konradv]

Catch and release is for fishing not drug interdiction

Who said release?

 

[Delldude]

I have no idea.

Water skiing.

 

[konradv]

We see two sides here. The one side blows up the drug runners and killes them and sends their poison to the bottome of the sea.

The other side, lets call them, "lefties", just lets the drug runners, ply their trade making mucho money and killing Americans by the hundreds of thousands.


So...yeah. I am fine with where I fall on that divide.

How does boarding and arresting allow anyone to ply their trade? Did you think it was catch and release?

 

[Delldude]

What evidence do you have that the Tren de Aragua gang was on the boat.

Not a civilian issue.

 

[Delldude]

We’d know a lot more, if we boarded, searched and interrogated. You’re just guessing. We don’t really know if they were carrying drugs OR invaders.

Satellite Intel....get with it.

 

[pknopp]

So, you are antigovernment!

No.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

We’d know a lot more, if we boarded, searched and interrogated. You’re just guessing. We don’t really know if they were carrying drugs OR invaders.

Visual observation says both. You think the Americans should have got in a shooting match to board this drug runner? Really? Ahhh no. I was overjoyed to see them blown to smithereens.

 

[the watcher]

Are you saying that you do know what the spooks know, or is just your assumption?

You don’t know anything about the intel available to American drug enforcement.

You shouldn’t try to substitute your mere speculation for whatever was known by our intel. And the US is not obligated to share that intel with us or anyone else, for obvious reasons.

Actually, I did quote you as saying someone else was ignorant of what intelligence knew and your ignorance of that is somehow superior to their ignorance. Your blind faith somehow trumps their lack of confidence somehow. That kind of Snowflake acceptance is how we got the Patriot Act, the DHS, and even more secrecy.

 

[otto105]

Not a civilian issue.

So, nothing.

 

[BackAgain]

Actually, I did quote you as saying someone else was ignorant of what intelligence knew and your ignorance of that is somehow superior to their ignorance. Your blind faith somehow trumps their lack of confidence somehow. That kind of Snowflake acceptance is how we got the Patriot Act, the DHS, and even more secrecy.

Actually, you didn’t. You asked me if I was claiming to possess such info.

Dumb question since I never said any such thing. In fact, in related posts I was explicit on noting the hypothetical nature of what I was addressing.

Try to keep on track, unless you have some urgent perceived need to try to derail this thread.

 

[struth]

That the government did this with zero proof of anything is fact, not outrageous.

So why did the govt do it?

 

[Correll]

How does boarding and arresting allow anyone to ply their trade? Did you think it was catch and release?

But that's not the dem answer. That's shit talk the dems say when MAGA blows the drug runners up.


When dems are in charge, they just let teh border open.

 

[JWBooth]

So why did the govt do it?

To justify spending beau coups money on threatening the Venezuela government.

 

[JWBooth]

Visual observation says both. You think the Americans should have got in a shooting match to board this drug runner? Really? Ahhh no. I was overjoyed to see them blown to smithereens.

The Coasties used to make recruitment commercials doing that very thing.