President Trump: Making America Normal Again

[Foxfyre]

Anything bad for democrats is great for America!

Let's amend that to anything the Democrats think is bad is most likely great for America.

I don't wish harm to Democrats. I wish those of that party would return to the decency and appreciation for America and a desire to do good for America and Americans as Democrats once were.

The modern day Democrat is pretty much the opposite of that.

 

[Foxfyre]

I thought about starting a new thread for this, but seriously, a normal America celebrates its JudeoChristian roots and heritage. No we are not officially a Christian nation--short of treading on the rights of others to do the same, all people of all faiths have constitutionally protected liberty to think, believe, worship, express themselves as they are moved and/or motivated to do in matters of spirituality, faith, religion.

But in a normal America, a strong majority are of the JudeoChristian faith, and it was that faith that motivated the first settlers to come here, that guided their sense of right and wrong, law and justice, value system and that forms the basis of much of our art, music, literature.

Among all that is the Christian belief and sense of duty to Israel and the Jews, that those who bless Israel will be blessed. An America that denigrates or puts down the Jews is not a normal America.

Charlie Kirk expressed that eloquently in this video:

 

[Lisa558]

Well thank you my friend, but if you've never seen me be wrong, you weren't looking hard enough. LOL

OK….I will keep looking!

 

[Foxfyre]

OK….I will keep looking!

You might be interested in my post #942 up there. I don't think I'm wrong about that.

 

[Lisa558]

You might be interested in my post #942 up there. I don't think I'm wrong about that.

I just read it. Wonderful post, and so on target!

And, also….such a relief to know there are people out there like you with these attitudes after the many horrifically antisemitic comments I’ve seen on this forum. (Just today, someone referred to Jews with the c-word.) I like to believe that people who think like you are in the majority.

 

[Foxfyre]

I just read it. Wonderful post, and so on target!

And, also….such a relief to know there are people out there like you with these attitudes after the many horrifically antisemitic comments I’ve seen on this forum. (Just today, someone referred to Jews with the c-word.) I like to believe that people who think like you are in the majority.

People who think like Charlie Kirk, who think like me, I believe are in the majority. Probably a very strong majority. It's just so many truly pathetic people haunt these message boards and social media and they tend to be louder and more outspoken than honorable, honest people.

And they are more aided and abetted by a woke and dishonest media.

 

[Dassin Dassin]

The majority of Americans who voted for President Trump did so because of the MAGA vision of a strong, secure, free America that offers maximum liberty, options, choices, opportunity and prosperity for all.

That is what is normal America to those people.

So far the cabinet President Trump is putting together are all committed to that vision, but wow, they sure are causing a lot of heads to explode. Nevertheless Trump is moving forward to make the MAGA vision a reality and is putting together the most unusual, interesting, unexpected and unlikely team in American history to accomplish it.

I am a bit curious if the most hard core left aren't at least a little bit curious and interested in how this will all work out. I sure am.

What does a normal America look like to you? Is the Biden Administration agenda and results what you think should be normal? Or are you willing to give the MAGA team the majority of voters voted for a chance?

Setting aside the talking points, partisan rhetoric and propaganda, aren't you a little hopeful that the MAGA agenda, the MAGA team heading government, the resolve to make America great again, will yield good things? Or are you hoping it fails?

So, liar, moron, lunatic, comedian, or time-wasting clown?
Or all five, a Republican?

 

[Foxfyre]

In my opinion the proposed new "America" party being pushed by Elon Musk, et al, presents the most serious danger yet to the MAGA movement/vision/agenda. If it gains legs it will almost certainly split the Patriots sufficiently for the Democrats, however much they keep shooting themselves in the foot, to take back Congress in 2026 and the White House in 2028.

If that happens we can kiss our hopes to restore a normal America goodbye because the Democrats will undo all the good that is being done and will be done and will make sure policies are in place that keeps them in power for the rest of our lifetime and beyond.

Patriots say NO NO NO to a new political party.

 

[Foxfyre]

The Democrat propaganda machine we know as the MSM/'legacy media' is now almost all reporting that President Trump's deportation program to remove illegals from the country is approved by a good majority of Americans. Even the NYT says the polls are in favor of the President on that.

And as we would expect, the Democrats continue to be on the wrong side of that issue:

Trump's deportation program nets positive approval amid contrasting views over its scope, CBS News poll finds

Americans think tariffs will lead to higher prices; Trump's perceived goals fare better than his approach.

www.cbsnews.com

A normal America is not overrun by millions of people who have no right to be here.

 

[Foxfyre]

It's pretty pathetic that 82% of Democrats want us to keep all those millions of illegals including the rapists, vandals, thieves, thugs, gang members, arsonists, murderers etc. that are among them.

The ONLY legitimate reason they want the migrants here is to turn them into voting Democrats.

But they will tell you they don't want to destroy America or overthrow the government.

 

[Lisa558]

It's pretty pathetic that 82% of Democrats want us to keep all those millions of illegals including the rapists, vandals, thieves, thugs, gang members, arsonists, murderers etc. that are among them.

The ONLY legitimate reason they want the migrants here is to turn them into voting Democrats.

But they will tell you they don't want to destroy America or overthrow the government.

I can think of a few additional reasons:

1) Democrats hate America, and they blame “inequity” for the reason the country is so “terrible.” Thus, they believe that if they import tens of millions of semi-literate foreigners from 3rd world countries, America will be lowered in caliber and will be more equal to other, lesser countries.

2) They divide people into oppressors and oppressed, with the successful people being the hated oppressors and those who are failures as oppressed. Thus, they side with the criminal aliens.

3) There are many Democrats who are blatantly anti-white racists, and so the fact that most of these illegals are not white is a big plus.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

Foxfyre

What does a normal America look like to you? Is the Biden Administration agenda and results what you think should be normal? Or are you willing to give the MAGA team the majority of voters voted for a chance?

A normal America, in order for that to happen in my opinion requires the complete destruction of the Party System. I believe all political parties should be banned and all candidates should be elected on personal Merit. Once we get all the Party BS out of the way we can provide actual solutions. MAGA and Biden are like two dogs, chasing each other's tails. Not much actually changes.

We need a transformation, that goes beyond a vote for a Candidate. We need a fundamental restructuring of how we act, and think about government.

 

[Foxfyre]

Foxfyre



A normal America, in order for that to happen in my opinion requires the complete destruction of the Party System. I believe all political parties should be banned and all candidates should be elected on personal Merit. Once we get all the Party BS out of the way we can provide actual solutions. MAGA and Biden are like two dogs, chasing each other's tails. Not much actually changes.

We need a transformation, that goes beyond a vote for a Candidate. We need a fundamental restructuring of how we act, and think about government.

The party system, however, has existed in one form or another since the creation of the USA. And for all the downsides of that, it does help keep total power out of the hands of any small oligarchy. And helps all voices to be heard.

Right now the Democrat Party is totally off the rails, out of its mind, contrary to everything this country was intended to be. Without the buffer of dedicated Republicans against that, imagine the horrible situation we would be in right now.

Without the smaller but persistent voice of the anti-federalists, we would have started out with a much much stronger central government than what was ultimately created by the Constitution and that could have seriously hampered the great experiment they ultimately created and we might not have become the greatest nation on Earth. We would have had no Bill of Rights.

All that even with pretty much shared values and equal sense of right and wrong by both sides.

 

[Blaster]

 

[Foxfyre]

One thing SCOTUS definitely needs to address are these all encompassing, nation wide injunctions being issued by district and federal courts. Such courts should be advised that their jurisdiction is limited and they are given no authority to make law or change existing law. Yes, they can order a temporary stay within their jurisdiction to protect the rights of individuals and give them time to make their case, but a New York Court can't make rules for Arizona or Kansas or other parts of the country.

Honest question though. Why can't a large group of aliens rounded up by ICE be brought to court and receive judicial permission to take them back to their home countries? That would greatly expedite the process. Giving an individual hearing to more than 20 million aliens is just not reasonable. And there is nothing in the law that requires any alien to be represented by an attorney.

 

[Luckyone]

The majority of Americans who voted for President Trump did so because of the MAGA vision of a strong, secure, free America that offers maximum liberty, options, choices, opportunity and prosperity for all.

That is what is normal America to those people.

So far the cabinet President Trump is putting together are all committed to that vision, but wow, they sure are causing a lot of heads to explode. Nevertheless Trump is moving forward to make the MAGA vision a reality and is putting together the most unusual, interesting, unexpected and unlikely team in American history to accomplish it.

I am a bit curious if the most hard core left aren't at least a little bit curious and interested in how this will all work out. I sure am.

What does a normal America look like to you? Is the Biden Administration agenda and results what you think should be normal? Or are you willing to give the MAGA team the majority of voters voted for a chance?

Setting aside the talking points, partisan rhetoric and propaganda, aren't you a little hopeful that the MAGA agenda, the MAGA team heading government, the resolve to make America great again, will yield good things? Or are you hoping it fails?

This is what normal America looked like. It was between 1950 and 1970 when the Rich were taxed appropriately. The economy boomed and all Americans enjoyed a good life:

 

[Foxfyre]

This is what normal America looked like. It was between 1950 and 1970 when the Rich were taxed appropriately. The economy boomed and all Americans enjoyed a good life:

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I don't know what the source is of your graph, but they sure as hell don't know much about American life in the 1950s, 60's, 70s

 

[Luckyone]

I don't know what the source is of your graph, but they sure as hell don't know much about American life in the 1950s, 60's, 70s

Well then, why don't you tell us the difference!

 

[Foxfyre]

Well then, why don't you tell us the difference!

Because I don't need to. Your conclusion re that graph is absurd givien the actual history. Why don't you reveal the source of your graph?

Meanwhile despite the large gap between our richest and our poor, our poor live better than the rich almost everywhere else. And our country gives far more opportunity to become less poor than almost everywhere else too. Very few or our rich started out rich but our country gave them the opportunity to become rich. There is nothing wrong with that despite so called income inequality.

Astonishing Numbers: America's Poor Still Live Better Than Most Of The Rest Of Humanity

There's a lot of debate (from certain quarters it's less debate than whining actually) about the increasing inequality in the United States. Sure, maybe it's true that the country continues to grow but what about the poor and their incomes? And there might even be something worth worrying about...

www.forbes.com

Democrats seem to be interested in keeping people poor because so long as they are dependent on government they are much easier to control and they also vote for government that they think gives them more freebies.

Republicans/Patriots/MAGA put policies into place that encourage and enable people to become less poor, unpoor, more rich, rich.

 

[Luckyone]

Because I don't need to. Your conclusion re that graph is absurd givien the actual history. Why don't you reveal the source of your graph?

Wikipedia:

Causes of income inequality in the United States - Wikipedia

Meanwhile despite the large gap between our richest and our poor, our poor live better than the rich almost everywhere else. And our country gives far more opportunity to become less poor than almost everywhere else too. Very few or our rich started out rich but our country gave them the opportunity to become rich. There is nothing wrong with that despite so called income inequality.

Astonishing Numbers: America's Poor Still Live Better Than Most Of The Rest Of Humanity

There's a lot of debate (from certain quarters it's less debate than whining actually) about the increasing inequality in the United States. Sure, maybe it's true that the country continues to grow but what about the poor and their incomes? And there might even be something worth worrying about...

www.forbes.com

That means nothing. The OP is about returning to Normal America and my response was that the period between the 50' to the 70's was the Normal America we all enjoyed. Now the Rich are enjoying life more than in the 50's-70's and the poor are enjoying life less than during those years.

This is not about comparing our poor with the rest of the world

Democrats seem to be interested in keeping people poor because so long as they are dependent on government they are much easier to control and they also vote for government that they think gives them more freebies.

Republicans/Patriots/MAGA put policies into place that encourage and enable people to become less poor, unpoor, more rich, rich.

Pure BS reply. It is the Republicans giving the tax cuts that help the rich more. It is the Democrats that are promoting services (Medicaid, Medicare, Health Insurance, Welfare, etc) that help the poor.

Because I don't need to. Your conclusion re that graph is absurd givien the actual history.

You are blind-by-choice