President Trump just placed the DC police under federal control

[LeftofLeft]

That was during Trump I.

Exactly! Looks like he’s not taking a chance this go-around.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Guns don't kill people, so it doesn't matter how many guns normal, law abiding people own.

Until the government starts to take away the rights, savings, wealth of those normal law abiding people, then it matters.

The 15-20 million people murdered by their governments in just 6 years in Europe....didn't own guns.......they were confiscated in the 1920s-30s.......murdered by their governments and they had nothing to fight back with.....

Europe...

In the 1920s, they began the process of registering guns....to make their people safer. That was the lie. by the mid 1930s, the socialists in Germany began the process of banning and confiscating guns, and the same for the countries they defeated......using the gun registration lists created in the 1920s....

By 1939, the German socialists began to murder 15 million - 20 million people....in 6 years.....men, women and over 1 million children.

6 years, 15 million- 20 million murdered citizens..not war dead, innocent people rounded up and murdered in camps and forests....

Including 1 million children

15 million in 6 years.

In the United States, gun murder for our entire 247 year history?

Around 2,470,000

Europe.... 15-20 million murdered in 6 years.

U.S..... 2,470,000 murdered in 247 years

How many hundreds of years will it take the U.S. to catch up with the number of Europeans murdered by their governments.....

Lives saved....based on research? By law abiding gun owners using guns to stop criminals?



Case Closed: Kleck Is Still Correct



There are roughly 100,000 people shot in the United States yearly, and something over 30,000 die. If this 1/3 vs. 2/3 ratio of deaths to injuries in actual shootings pertains in these DGUs, that makes for at least 176,000 lives saved—less some attackers who lost their lives to defenders. This enormous benefit dwarfs, both in human and economic terms, the losses trumpeted by hoplophobes who only choose to see the risk side of the equation.



https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/06/case-closed-kleck-is-still-correct/

 

[BackAgain]

Your definition of "irrelevant stuff" is any publicly available factual data that proves you're a prick.

You don’t cite to factual data.

You’re really bad at this.

Mock ya later, Hemlock brainless.

 

[Moonglow]

Guns don't kill people, so it doesn't matter how many guns normal, law abiding people own.

The 15-20 million people murdered by their governments in just 6 years in Europe....didn't own guns.......they were confiscated in the 1920s-30s.......murdered by their governments and they had nothing to fight back with.....

Europe...

In the 1920s, they began the process of registering guns....to make their people safer. That was the lie. by the mid 1930s, the socialists in Germany began the process of banning and confiscating guns, and the same for the countries they defeated......using the gun registration lists created in the 1920s....

By 1939, the German socialists began to murder 15 million - 20 million people....in 6 years.....men, women and over 1 million children.

6 years, 15 million- 20 million murdered citizens..not war dead, innocent people rounded up and murdered in camps and forests....

Including 1 million children

15 million in 6 years.

In the United States, gun murder for our entire 247 year history?

Around 2,470,000

Europe.... 15-20 million murdered in 6 years.

U.S..... 2,470,000 murdered in 247 years

How many hundreds of years will it take the U.S. to catch up with the number of Europeans murdered by their governments.....

Lives saved....based on research? By law abiding gun owners using guns to stop criminals?



Case Closed: Kleck Is Still Correct



There are roughly 100,000 people shot in the United States yearly, and something over 30,000 die. If this 1/3 vs. 2/3 ratio of deaths to injuries in actual shootings pertains in these DGUs, that makes for at least 176,000 lives saved—less some attackers who lost their lives to defenders. This enormous benefit dwarfs, both in human and economic terms, the losses trumpeted by hoplophobes who only choose to see the risk side of the equation.



https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/06/case-closed-kleck-is-still-correct/

You conveniently left out the millions of natives in the US murdered by guns.

 

[2aguy]

Until the government starts to take away the rights, savings, wealth of those normal law abiding people, then it matters.

And that dipstick...is why we have the 2nd Amendment.......Europe doesn't have it....and they suffered for it.

 

[BackAgain]

You conveniently left out the millions of natives in the US murdered by guns.

Over what time period are you talking about?

Link?

 

[2aguy]

You conveniently left out the millions of natives in the US murdered by guns.

No.....I didn't leave that out.....I put down the number of people murdered with guns, 2,470,000, over the entire 247 year history of the United States......

 

[Moonglow]

No.....I didn't leave that out.....I put down the number of people murdered with guns, 2,470,000, over the entire 247 year history of the United States......

Yer numbers suck since accurate records are not possible.

 

[Moonglow]

Over what time period are you talking about?

Link?

When yer moon shines.

 

[2aguy]

Yer numbers suck since accurate records are not possible.

Nope.....I took 10,000 a year as the average.....because you can't trace it all the way back to 1776 with accuracy......given that number, I came up with 2,470,000 when I first discussed this issue.....

That is still far less than the 15-20 million murdered by the governments of Europe from 1939-1945.....not the war dead.....but civilians rounded up, marched into camps and forests and murdered.

 

[Meister]

I was just looking at the homicide numbers in DC, for having a population
of less than a million, it still has a high percentage of murders.
You can't use just the raw numbers, need to use context.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Fake numbers came from your side…

DC police commander suspended, accused of changing crime statistics

A D.C. police commander is under investigation for allegedly making changes to crime statistics in his district. The Metropolitan Police Department confirmed Michael Pulliam was placed on paid administrative leave in mid-May. That happened just a week after Pulliam filed an equal employment...

www.nbcwashington.com

Here are independent source for you, one does not rely on a single source (like trump):

e.g.

DC Crime Data and Stats - Crime Data and statistics for Washington, DC 2013-2024

www.crimedatadc.com

Data Explorer - DC Witness

[dcInteractivePlayground2]

dcwitness.org

 

[citygator]

This experiment of democracy has officially failed.

“A republic, if you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin

 

[struth]

Recall this is all because the doge goon "big balls" got his balls kicked, like Musk and Trump's manhood, there was nothing big there at all just big mouths.

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And like clock work, a demafacist comes running to mock a victim of an assault

You people are so angry and violent.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You don’t cite to factual data.

You’re really bad at this.

Mock ya later, Hemlock brainless.

So why don't you try, show me sources that provide evidence supporting trump's claims, for example:

“We’re declaring a public safety emergency in the District of Columbia"

This, despite violent crime hitting a 30-year-low in 2024, according to the justice department.

So blabber mouth, coke snorting lard ass, show me the data that proves the Justice Dept's is lying? Show me all of us, the stats that trump is basing his decision on, what sources did trump use to make his assessment that DC is experiencing a "public safety emergency"?

He's a liar and you love him because you are a liar too.

 

[BackAgain]

When yer moon shines.

So. As expected and as usual, you have nothing to support your bloviating. Check.

 

[struth]

This experiment of democracy has officially failed.

“A republic, if you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin

Didn’t Franklin vote to make DC a federal district?

 

[WEATHER53]

I was just looking at the homicide numbers in DC, for having a population
of less than a million, it still has a high percentage of murders.
You can't use just the raw numbers, need to use context.

Context reveals facts while feelings get mollified by blending gross numbers and percentages incorrectly

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

And like clock work, a demafacist comes running to mock a victim of an assault

You people are so angry and violent.

Says the sicko who routinely defends genocide in Palestine.

White boy in DC gets slapped by thugs - "Oh boo hoo, this is terrible, so much violence".

Arab family in Gaza get shot in the head begging for food - "These people brought it on themselves, no sympathy from me".

 

[Zincwarrior]

I was just looking at the homicide numbers in DC, for having a population
of less than a million, it still has a high percentage of murders.
You can't use just the raw numbers, need to use context.

Not seeing what the Guard is for or what they are going to do. This is not a weather emergency or riot. Theoretically this is just normal crime, which they are not trained or equipped for.

I've been to Europe and South America. I am not a fan of soldiers in the streets on an everyday basis.