President Biden to talk gun violence with Mayor Eric Adams in visit to NYC

[MarcATL]

My point is actual KKK racists would support fully the Manhattan DA's policies in minority areas because it would achieve their hopes and dreams for said minority areas.

How so?

 

[basquebromance]

Biden just said he wants to crack down on "rogue gun dealers", and "ghost guns"...yea, that'll solve it!

 

[martybegan]

How so?

Increased crime? People living in fear, minorities preying on minorities?

Only a progressive or a hardcore Nazi would love that.

 

[basquebromance]

"we need a 9/11-type response to address the domestic terror that is pervasive in this city and in this country" - Eric Adams just now

 

[basquebromance]

 

[basquebromance]

"NYC is the greatest city in the world...with apologies to Wilmington, Delaware!" - Rep Hakeem Jeffries to President Biden

 

[Brain357]

Rudy cleaned up NY with broken windows policing, constant statistical analysis of crime rates, and holding the County DA's accountable via public pressure.

NYC's gun control laws haven't changed in decades.

Rudy was a strong supporter of gun control. Don’t try to change history.

Rudy Giuliani Has the Kind of Gun Control Record That Gets Presidential Appointees Savaged By the NRA

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www.thetrace.org

 

[Brain357]

Crime is up everywhere turdstain, including rightwing precincts.

It increased under rump and the trend continues.

 

[Brain357]

Yeah, illegal guns, coming across the southern border along with the drugs. Shut down the border, and then there would be less illegal guns and less drugs. I guess that makes too much sense.

We send the illegal guns to Mexico.

 

[Brain357]

We already have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

 

[Brain357]

Crime dropped like a rock when Clinton passed gun control, just saying…. Most concealed carry than ever and homicides climbing…

 

[basquebromance]

New Yorkers sure are excited for Brandon’s arrival.

 

[basquebromance]

Opinion | Eric Adams Seems Serious About Crime. Is Biden?

The president meets the new mayor in New York as the city buries its second police officer in a week.

www.wsj.com

Bidenâs NYC visit wonât address the real causes of crime: Democratic policy

No matter what President Biden says in NYC Thursday, the American people know the truth — and they utterly reject his reckless anti-police agenda.

nypost.com

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

"NYC is the greatest city in the world...with apologies to Wilmington, Delaware!" - Rep Hakeem Jeffries to President Biden

NYC is a shithole 3rd world city now, thanks to Socialist policies of the Mayor and Governor.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Crime dropped like a rock when Clinton passed gun control, just saying…. Most concealed carry than ever and homicides climbing…

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The police were warned about Eric Harris and even had plans to execute a search warrant that could have found his weapons stockpile — but it never happened.

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[Chillicothe]

Only if they were negligent in storage. If the guns were legally stored and still stolen how is the original owner liable?

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Negligence is established --by definition -- once the gun leaves the control of the owner-of-record and harm ensues.

That is the nature of "strict liability".
Guns ain't cars.
They are different.
Trust me.

Under a "strict liability" rubric ---- if you are the owner-of-record (O.O.R.).... ANY harm caused by that high-lethality tool falls partly---or even wholly ---on the responsible O.O.R.

You bring it into society you....ipso facto.....assume the liability for the harm it causes.

Pretty simple. IMHO

 

[martybegan]

Rudy was a strong supporter of gun control. Don’t try to change history.

Rudy Giuliani Has the Kind of Gun Control Record That Gets Presidential Appointees Savaged By the NRA

Among the many bizarre dilemmas a Donald Trump presidency poses for Senate Republicans, this may be one of the weirder ones: A conservative majority that’s invoked Second Amendment rights and National Rifle Association grades to obstruct Democratic judicial and executive nominations may soon...

www.thetrace.org

But he didn't have to pass shit, because NY's gun laws were already in place. He found illegal guns by busting guys hopping turnstiles and doing graffiti.

 

[martybegan]

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Negligence is established --by definition -- once the gun leaves the control of the owner-of-record and harm ensues.

That is the nature of "strict liability".
Guns ain't cars.
They are different.
Trust me.

Under a "strict liability" rubric ---- if you are the owner-of-record (O.O.R.).... ANY harm caused by that high-lethality tool falls partly---or even wholly ---on the responsible O.O.R.

You bring it into society you....ipso facto.....assume the liability for the harm it causes.

Pretty simple. IMHO

Please show me where a person was actually found liable for this, as long as they followed storage rules, and reported the theft in a reasonable legally defined time.

 

[Chillicothe]

Please show me where a person was actually found liable for this, as long as they followed storage rules, and reported the theft in a reasonable legally defined time.

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Well, that's regrettable.
I thought I was being clear that my avatar would support such a change in our laws. NOT that those laws exist today. (reference post #19).

So, with that said: I would repeat.....I will support the advancement of the ethic and the laws that would enable a "strict liability" rubric to become a reality.

Guns ain't cars. Their purpose, design, and use are different. Their very features of being a high-lethality tool, highly portable, readily concealed, ease-of-use, make them unique among tools. Unique among weapons. Accordingly, the laws that apply to them must be of a different nature than the laws for auto, scissors, and baseball bats.

 

[martybegan]

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Well, that's regrettable.
I thought I was being clear that my avatar would support such a change in our laws. NOT that those laws exist today. (reference post #19).

So, with that said: I would repeat.....I will support the advancement of the ethic and the laws that would enable a "strict liability" rubric to become a reality.

Guns ain't cars. Their purpose, design, and use are different. Their very features of being a high-lethality tool, highly portable, readily concealed, ease-of-use, make them unique among tools. Unique among weapons. Accordingly, the laws that apply to them must be of a different nature than the laws for auto, scissors, and baseball bats.

So you can't prove it.

Another way of discouraging people from owning firearms.