Prediction: Biden will be the nominee and he will lose in a landslide.

[U2Edge]

There is a key indicator here that is going under the radar for now. In the party that sticks together there is no public support for Biden from Obama or Clinton.They know what he is incapable of and they know what's in his closet. An interesting fact is that Biden wasn't even seriously considered in the last election. The death of his son was put forth as a red herring at the time but the real reason was almost certainly that he was considered a sure bet to lose.

Every poll that has been done of a race between BIDEN and Trump shows BIDEN winning. If you average all the polls, BIDEN beats Trump by an average of 10 points.

Typically its not easy to defeat someone that has served as Vice President for 8 years who is running for President. They have a pretty good track record of winning their party's nomination and being elected President.

 

[Ray9]

There is a key indicator here that is going under the radar for now. In the party that sticks together there is no public support for Biden from Obama or Clinton.They know what he is incapable of and they know what's in his closet. An interesting fact is that Biden wasn't even seriously considered in the last election. The death of his son was put forth as a red herring at the time but the real reason was almost certainly that he was considered a sure bet to lose.

Every poll that has been done of a race between BIDEN and Trump shows BIDEN winning. If you average all the polls, BIDEN beats Trump by an average of 10 points.

Typically its not easy to defeat someone that has served as Vice President for 8 years who is running for President. They have a pretty good track record of winning their party's nomination and being elected President.

Are those the same polls that had Hillary winning?

 

[U2Edge]

This should be obvious because even though Joe Biden is a senile, doddering old fool, he is the only candidate running who appears to be remotely sane. The Democratic Party has become the Titanic and no one is steering the ship.

I don't think Biden will be the nominee, but then it's my belief that he's too old. In each of the debates, Joe's weaknesses as a candidate were on full display. Ditto Bernie.

These guys have had 40 years in government and they've done little in their time in office to suggest that they have good ideas to fix things. Joe's getting a lot of heat for crap he authored, voted for and thought were good ideas at the time. You had your chance, and you blew it Joe. What would ever make us think that going back to the old ways, is going to work going forward? As we've seen with Donald Trump repealling regulations, and trying to revive the coal industry, you can't go back. The world has moved on and the USA needs to move forward, not back.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

This should be obvious because even though Joe Biden is a senile, doddering old fool, he is the only candidate running who appears to be remotely sane. The Democratic Party has become the Titanic and no one is steering the ship.

I don't think Biden will be the nominee, but then it's my belief that he's too old. In each of the debates, Joe's weaknesses as a candidate were on full display. Ditto Bernie.

These guys have had 40 years in government and they've done little in their time in office to suggest that they have good ideas to fix things. Joe's getting a lot of heat for crap he authored, voted for and thought were good ideas at the time. You had your chance, and you blew it Joe. What would ever make us think that going back to the old ways, is going to work going forward? As we've seen with Donald Trump repealling regulations, and trying to revive the coal industry, you can't go back. The world has moved on and the USA needs to move forward, not back.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

Yeah, free things like health care for all, and a quality education for all. Things that will lift up the entire nation. Things that are available to the citizens of every other first world nation in the world. Things that will help to grow the middle class, instead of shrinking it, which is what has been going on since Reagan changed the tax code.

Other countries consider programs which help educated and support the most vulnerable people in their population as "good governance", and governing for the majority of your citizens. Only radical American conservatives call programs which help their people and their economy "free shit". These self-same people who consider free education, and cell phones for the poor and the unemployed "free shit" should ask themselves how these people are going to get a job if they don't have a phone, or an education.

Smart people call this "enlightened self interest". If the person on welfare has a phone, and a potential employer can call them, maybe they'll get a job and get off welfare. Maybe if their children get a good education which properly prepares them for employment in the 21st Century, maybe the next generation can leave poverty behind.

2% of the population is currently able to lift themselves out of poverty. When Ronald Reagan was elected and ended the War on Poverty, that number was 20%. Right now 98 children out of 100, born into poverty in the USA, will remain in poverty all of their lives and will always be a drain on the public purse. Conservative tax, economic and education policies are encouraging and growing poverty, not decreasing it.

Instead of massive, government funded retraining projects in the mid-west to re-educate workers and train them for 21st Century jobs, Trump wants to bring back low skill manufacturing jobs. Instead of raising the minimum wage, conservatives want to increase the "earned income credit", making taxpayers responsible for subsidizing and financially supporting the low paid workers of some of the most profitable corporations in America. The reason these companies are so profitable is because they're underpaying their workers, while screwing the middle class, and conservative governments are helping them do this.

No other nation in the world makes the middle class subsidize the wages of the working class, to the detriment of both.

You're right about wages but wrong about the cause. The US has been dabbling in globalization for the past 25 years and lowering the standard of living here to match Europe and Asia. Now you want to implement a Santa Clause government here to match the rest of the world. Wonderful promises of free gifts under the tree.

The people here didn't just fall off the turnip truck but that's what the poor from neighboring countries are being marched across our borders for. Lyndon Johnson's legacy has come home.

Much could be accomplished, if our corrupt government didn’t spend over one trillion annually on an imperialistic military.

As a percentage of annual GDP, the United States spends less on defense now than it did during the peace time of the 1980s. National Defense is the most important function of the government. The United States has typically underfunded its military except during World War II.

 

[U2Edge]

There is a key indicator here that is going under the radar for now. In the party that sticks together there is no public support for Biden from Obama or Clinton.They know what he is incapable of and they know what's in his closet. An interesting fact is that Biden wasn't even seriously considered in the last election. The death of his son was put forth as a red herring at the time but the real reason was almost certainly that he was considered a sure bet to lose.

Every poll that has been done of a race between BIDEN and Trump shows BIDEN winning. If you average all the polls, BIDEN beats Trump by an average of 10 points.

Typically its not easy to defeat someone that has served as Vice President for 8 years who is running for President. They have a pretty good track record of winning their party's nomination and being elected President.

Are those the same polls that had Hillary winning?

She did win by 3 million votes. It simply a FLUKE of the electoral college that allowed Trump to pull out a tiny marginal victory.

 

[rightwinger]

I don't think Biden will be the nominee, but then it's my belief that he's too old. In each of the debates, Joe's weaknesses as a candidate were on full display. Ditto Bernie.

These guys have had 40 years in government and they've done little in their time in office to suggest that they have good ideas to fix things. Joe's getting a lot of heat for crap he authored, voted for and thought were good ideas at the time. You had your chance, and you blew it Joe. What would ever make us think that going back to the old ways, is going to work going forward? As we've seen with Donald Trump repealling regulations, and trying to revive the coal industry, you can't go back. The world has moved on and the USA needs to move forward, not back.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

I don't think Biden will be the nominee, but then it's my belief that he's too old. In each of the debates, Joe's weaknesses as a candidate were on full display. Ditto Bernie.

These guys have had 40 years in government and they've done little in their time in office to suggest that they have good ideas to fix things. Joe's getting a lot of heat for crap he authored, voted for and thought were good ideas at the time. You had your chance, and you blew it Joe. What would ever make us think that going back to the old ways, is going to work going forward? As we've seen with Donald Trump repealling regulations, and trying to revive the coal industry, you can't go back. The world has moved on and the USA needs to move forward, not back.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

Yeah, free things like health care for all, and a quality education for all. Things that will lift up the entire nation. Things that are available to the citizens of every other first world nation in the world. Things that will help to grow the middle class, instead of shrinking it, which is what has been going on since Reagan changed the tax code.

Other countries consider programs which help educated and support the most vulnerable people in their population as "good governance", and governing for the majority of your citizens. Only radical American conservatives call programs which help their people and their economy "free shit". These self-same people who consider free education, and cell phones for the poor and the unemployed "free shit" should ask themselves how these people are going to get a job if they don't have a phone, or an education.

Smart people call this "enlightened self interest". If the person on welfare has a phone, and a potential employer can call them, maybe they'll get a job and get off welfare. Maybe if their children get a good education which properly prepares them for employment in the 21st Century, maybe the next generation can leave poverty behind.

2% of the population is currently able to lift themselves out of poverty. When Ronald Reagan was elected and ended the War on Poverty, that number was 20%. Right now 98 children out of 100, born into poverty in the USA, will remain in poverty all of their lives and will always be a drain on the public purse. Conservative tax, economic and education policies are encouraging and growing poverty, not decreasing it.

Instead of massive, government funded retraining projects in the mid-west to re-educate workers and train them for 21st Century jobs, Trump wants to bring back low skill manufacturing jobs. Instead of raising the minimum wage, conservatives want to increase the "earned income credit", making taxpayers responsible for subsidizing and financially supporting the low paid workers of some of the most profitable corporations in America. The reason these companies are so profitable is because they're underpaying their workers, while screwing the middle class, and conservative governments are helping them do this.

No other nation in the world makes the middle class subsidize the wages of the working class, to the detriment of both.

You're right about wages but wrong about the cause. The US has been dabbling in globalization for the past 25 years and lowering the standard of living here to match Europe and Asia. Now you want to implement a Santa Clause government here to match the rest of the world. Wonderful promises of free gifts under the tree.

The people here didn't just fall off the turnip truck but that's what the poor from neighboring countries are being marched across our borders for. Lyndon Johnson's legacy has come home.

Much could be accomplished, if our corrupt government didn’t spend over one trillion annually on an imperialistic military.

As a percentage of annual GDP, the United States spends less on defense now than it did during the peace time of the 1980s. National Defense is the most important function of the government. The United States has typically underfunded its military except during World War II.

Funding of the military should be dependent on the threat we face

Acting as the worlds policeman is not a threat

 

[Thinker101]

This should be obvious because even though Joe Biden is a senile, doddering old fool, he is the only candidate running who appears to be remotely sane. The Democratic Party has become the Titanic and no one is steering the ship.

I don't think Biden will be the nominee, but then it's my belief that he's too old. In each of the debates, Joe's weaknesses as a candidate were on full display. Ditto Bernie.

These guys have had 40 years in government and they've done little in their time in office to suggest that they have good ideas to fix things. Joe's getting a lot of heat for crap he authored, voted for and thought were good ideas at the time. You had your chance, and you blew it Joe. What would ever make us think that going back to the old ways, is going to work going forward? As we've seen with Donald Trump repealling regulations, and trying to revive the coal industry, you can't go back. The world has moved on and the USA needs to move forward, not back.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

This should be obvious because even though Joe Biden is a senile, doddering old fool, he is the only candidate running who appears to be remotely sane. The Democratic Party has become the Titanic and no one is steering the ship.

I don't think Biden will be the nominee, but then it's my belief that he's too old. In each of the debates, Joe's weaknesses as a candidate were on full display. Ditto Bernie.

These guys have had 40 years in government and they've done little in their time in office to suggest that they have good ideas to fix things. Joe's getting a lot of heat for crap he authored, voted for and thought were good ideas at the time. You had your chance, and you blew it Joe. What would ever make us think that going back to the old ways, is going to work going forward? As we've seen with Donald Trump repealling regulations, and trying to revive the coal industry, you can't go back. The world has moved on and the USA needs to move forward, not back.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

Yeah, free things like health care for all, and a quality education for all. Things that will lift up the entire nation. Things that are available to the citizens of every other first world nation in the world. Things that will help to grow the middle class, instead of shrinking it, which is what has been going on since Reagan changed the tax code.

Other countries consider programs which help educated and support the most vulnerable people in their population as "good governance", and governing for the majority of your citizens. Only radical American conservatives call programs which help their people and their economy "free shit". These self-same people who consider free education, and cell phones for the poor and the unemployed "free shit" should ask themselves how these people are going to get a job if they don't have a phone, or an education.

Smart people call this "enlightened self interest". If the person on welfare has a phone, and a potential employer can call them, maybe they'll get a job and get off welfare. Maybe if their children get a good education which properly prepares them for employment in the 21st Century, maybe the next generation can leave poverty behind.

2% of the population is currently able to lift themselves out of poverty. When Ronald Reagan was elected and ended the War on Poverty, that number was 20%. Right now 98 children out of 100, born into poverty in the USA, will remain in poverty all of their lives and will always be a drain on the public purse. Conservative tax, economic and education policies are encouraging and growing poverty, not decreasing it.

Instead of massive, government funded retraining projects in the mid-west to re-educate workers and train them for 21st Century jobs, Trump wants to bring back low skill manufacturing jobs. Instead of raising the minimum wage, conservatives want to increase the "earned income credit", making taxpayers responsible for subsidizing and financially supporting the low paid workers of some of the most profitable corporations in America. The reason these companies are so profitable is because they're underpaying their workers, while screwing the middle class, and conservative governments are helping them do this.

No other nation in the world makes the middle class subsidize the wages of the working class, to the detriment of both.

What other country would you want to be like? Nothing is preventing you to move to one of those other countries.

Go back to your country!

Where have I heard that one before?

Evidently reading comprehension is a big void in your life...dumbass.

 

[Thinker101]

This should be obvious because even though Joe Biden is a senile, doddering old fool, he is the only candidate running who appears to be remotely sane. The Democratic Party has become the Titanic and no one is steering the ship.

I don't think Biden will be the nominee, but then it's my belief that he's too old. In each of the debates, Joe's weaknesses as a candidate were on full display. Ditto Bernie.

These guys have had 40 years in government and they've done little in their time in office to suggest that they have good ideas to fix things. Joe's getting a lot of heat for crap he authored, voted for and thought were good ideas at the time. You had your chance, and you blew it Joe. What would ever make us think that going back to the old ways, is going to work going forward? As we've seen with Donald Trump repealling regulations, and trying to revive the coal industry, you can't go back. The world has moved on and the USA needs to move forward, not back.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

This should be obvious because even though Joe Biden is a senile, doddering old fool, he is the only candidate running who appears to be remotely sane. The Democratic Party has become the Titanic and no one is steering the ship.

I don't think Biden will be the nominee, but then it's my belief that he's too old. In each of the debates, Joe's weaknesses as a candidate were on full display. Ditto Bernie.

These guys have had 40 years in government and they've done little in their time in office to suggest that they have good ideas to fix things. Joe's getting a lot of heat for crap he authored, voted for and thought were good ideas at the time. You had your chance, and you blew it Joe. What would ever make us think that going back to the old ways, is going to work going forward? As we've seen with Donald Trump repealling regulations, and trying to revive the coal industry, you can't go back. The world has moved on and the USA needs to move forward, not back.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

Yeah, free things like health care for all, and a quality education for all. Things that will lift up the entire nation. Things that are available to the citizens of every other first world nation in the world. Things that will help to grow the middle class, instead of shrinking it, which is what has been going on since Reagan changed the tax code.

Other countries consider programs which help educated and support the most vulnerable people in their population as "good governance", and governing for the majority of your citizens. Only radical American conservatives call programs which help their people and their economy "free shit". These self-same people who consider free education, and cell phones for the poor and the unemployed "free shit" should ask themselves how these people are going to get a job if they don't have a phone, or an education.

Smart people call this "enlightened self interest". If the person on welfare has a phone, and a potential employer can call them, maybe they'll get a job and get off welfare. Maybe if their children get a good education which properly prepares them for employment in the 21st Century, maybe the next generation can leave poverty behind.

2% of the population is currently able to lift themselves out of poverty. When Ronald Reagan was elected and ended the War on Poverty, that number was 20%. Right now 98 children out of 100, born into poverty in the USA, will remain in poverty all of their lives and will always be a drain on the public purse. Conservative tax, economic and education policies are encouraging and growing poverty, not decreasing it.

Instead of massive, government funded retraining projects in the mid-west to re-educate workers and train them for 21st Century jobs, Trump wants to bring back low skill manufacturing jobs. Instead of raising the minimum wage, conservatives want to increase the "earned income credit", making taxpayers responsible for subsidizing and financially supporting the low paid workers of some of the most profitable corporations in America. The reason these companies are so profitable is because they're underpaying their workers, while screwing the middle class, and conservative governments are helping them do this.

No other nation in the world makes the middle class subsidize the wages of the working class, to the detriment of both.

You're right about wages but wrong about the cause. The US has been dabbling in globalization for the past 25 years and lowering the standard of living here to match Europe and Asia. Now you want to implement a Santa Clause government here to match the rest of the world. Wonderful promises of free gifts under the tree.

The people here didn't just fall off the turnip truck but that's what the poor from neighboring countries are being marched across our borders for. Lyndon Johnson's legacy has come home.

I dunno, sure seems that most liberals did just fall off the turnip truck and fell on their head.

 

[Thinker101]

This should be obvious because even though Joe Biden is a senile, doddering old fool, he is the only candidate running who appears to be remotely sane. The Democratic Party has become the Titanic and no one is steering the ship.

I don't think Biden will be the nominee, but then it's my belief that he's too old. In each of the debates, Joe's weaknesses as a candidate were on full display. Ditto Bernie.

These guys have had 40 years in government and they've done little in their time in office to suggest that they have good ideas to fix things. Joe's getting a lot of heat for crap he authored, voted for and thought were good ideas at the time. You had your chance, and you blew it Joe. What would ever make us think that going back to the old ways, is going to work going forward? As we've seen with Donald Trump repealling regulations, and trying to revive the coal industry, you can't go back. The world has moved on and the USA needs to move forward, not back.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

This should be obvious because even though Joe Biden is a senile, doddering old fool, he is the only candidate running who appears to be remotely sane. The Democratic Party has become the Titanic and no one is steering the ship.

I don't think Biden will be the nominee, but then it's my belief that he's too old. In each of the debates, Joe's weaknesses as a candidate were on full display. Ditto Bernie.

These guys have had 40 years in government and they've done little in their time in office to suggest that they have good ideas to fix things. Joe's getting a lot of heat for crap he authored, voted for and thought were good ideas at the time. You had your chance, and you blew it Joe. What would ever make us think that going back to the old ways, is going to work going forward? As we've seen with Donald Trump repealling regulations, and trying to revive the coal industry, you can't go back. The world has moved on and the USA needs to move forward, not back.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

Yeah, free things like health care for all, and a quality education for all. Things that will lift up the entire nation. Things that are available to the citizens of every other first world nation in the world. Things that will help to grow the middle class, instead of shrinking it, which is what has been going on since Reagan changed the tax code.

Other countries consider programs which help educated and support the most vulnerable people in their population as "good governance", and governing for the majority of your citizens. Only radical American conservatives call programs which help their people and their economy "free shit". These self-same people who consider free education, and cell phones for the poor and the unemployed "free shit" should ask themselves how these people are going to get a job if they don't have a phone, or an education.

Smart people call this "enlightened self interest". If the person on welfare has a phone, and a potential employer can call them, maybe they'll get a job and get off welfare. Maybe if their children get a good education which properly prepares them for employment in the 21st Century, maybe the next generation can leave poverty behind.

2% of the population is currently able to lift themselves out of poverty. When Ronald Reagan was elected and ended the War on Poverty, that number was 20%. Right now 98 children out of 100, born into poverty in the USA, will remain in poverty all of their lives and will always be a drain on the public purse. Conservative tax, economic and education policies are encouraging and growing poverty, not decreasing it.

Instead of massive, government funded retraining projects in the mid-west to re-educate workers and train them for 21st Century jobs, Trump wants to bring back low skill manufacturing jobs. Instead of raising the minimum wage, conservatives want to increase the "earned income credit", making taxpayers responsible for subsidizing and financially supporting the low paid workers of some of the most profitable corporations in America. The reason these companies are so profitable is because they're underpaying their workers, while screwing the middle class, and conservative governments are helping them do this.

No other nation in the world makes the middle class subsidize the wages of the working class, to the detriment of both.

You're right about wages but wrong about the cause. The US has been dabbling in globalization for the past 25 years and lowering the standard of living here to match Europe and Asia. Now you want to implement a Santa Clause government here to match the rest of the world. Wonderful promises of free gifts under the tree.

The people here didn't just fall off the turnip truck but that's what the poor from neighboring countries are being marched across our borders for. Lyndon Johnson's legacy has come home.

Much could be accomplished, if our corrupt government didn’t spend over one trillion annually on an imperialistic military.

Yep, they could get you free healthcare, free college, free income, we know the drill, dumbass.

 

[ph3iron]

This should be obvious because even though Joe Biden is a senile, doddering old fool, he is the only candidate running who appears to be remotely sane. The Democratic Party has become the Titanic and no one is steering the ship.

And you are a fat boy vagina grabber fan?
Doesn't even know where in ohio the attack was

 

[boedicca]

My bet is that Warren will be the nominee. Harris is toast after the Tulsi hit. The Dems have made "white male privilege" into too big of an issue for Biden to be the candidate; he can't grovel and repudiate his past enough to appease the hard left fringe that now dominates the party. The one card he has to play is big donor money. If the Dems fall for that, the lose BIGLY in 2020. They'll still lose with Warren, but will save a big of face for having a wimmens candidate.

 

[ph3iron]

Trump managed to pull in the I hate Hillary vote

There is no I hate Biden vote

Trump pulled in the Love-America vote. He'll get it again.

He'll also get the hate-Socialism vote.

Is there enough old white zero college farts left?

 

[Thinker101]

This should be obvious because even though Joe Biden is a senile, doddering old fool, he is the only candidate running who appears to be remotely sane. The Democratic Party has become the Titanic and no one is steering the ship.

I don't think Biden will be the nominee, but then it's my belief that he's too old. In each of the debates, Joe's weaknesses as a candidate were on full display. Ditto Bernie.

These guys have had 40 years in government and they've done little in their time in office to suggest that they have good ideas to fix things. Joe's getting a lot of heat for crap he authored, voted for and thought were good ideas at the time. You had your chance, and you blew it Joe. What would ever make us think that going back to the old ways, is going to work going forward? As we've seen with Donald Trump repealling regulations, and trying to revive the coal industry, you can't go back. The world has moved on and the USA needs to move forward, not back.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

This should be obvious because even though Joe Biden is a senile, doddering old fool, he is the only candidate running who appears to be remotely sane. The Democratic Party has become the Titanic and no one is steering the ship.

I don't think Biden will be the nominee, but then it's my belief that he's too old. In each of the debates, Joe's weaknesses as a candidate were on full display. Ditto Bernie.

These guys have had 40 years in government and they've done little in their time in office to suggest that they have good ideas to fix things. Joe's getting a lot of heat for crap he authored, voted for and thought were good ideas at the time. You had your chance, and you blew it Joe. What would ever make us think that going back to the old ways, is going to work going forward? As we've seen with Donald Trump repealling regulations, and trying to revive the coal industry, you can't go back. The world has moved on and the USA needs to move forward, not back.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

Yeah, free things like health care for all, and a quality education for all. Things that will lift up the entire nation. Things that are available to the citizens of every other first world nation in the world. Things that will help to grow the middle class, instead of shrinking it, which is what has been going on since Reagan changed the tax code.

Other countries consider programs which help educated and support the most vulnerable people in their population as "good governance", and governing for the majority of your citizens. Only radical American conservatives call programs which help their people and their economy "free shit". These self-same people who consider free education, and cell phones for the poor and the unemployed "free shit" should ask themselves how these people are going to get a job if they don't have a phone, or an education.

Smart people call this "enlightened self interest". If the person on welfare has a phone, and a potential employer can call them, maybe they'll get a job and get off welfare. Maybe if their children get a good education which properly prepares them for employment in the 21st Century, maybe the next generation can leave poverty behind.

2% of the population is currently able to lift themselves out of poverty. When Ronald Reagan was elected and ended the War on Poverty, that number was 20%. Right now 98 children out of 100, born into poverty in the USA, will remain in poverty all of their lives and will always be a drain on the public purse. Conservative tax, economic and education policies are encouraging and growing poverty, not decreasing it.

Instead of massive, government funded retraining projects in the mid-west to re-educate workers and train them for 21st Century jobs, Trump wants to bring back low skill manufacturing jobs. Instead of raising the minimum wage, conservatives want to increase the "earned income credit", making taxpayers responsible for subsidizing and financially supporting the low paid workers of some of the most profitable corporations in America. The reason these companies are so profitable is because they're underpaying their workers, while screwing the middle class, and conservative governments are helping them do this.

No other nation in the world makes the middle class subsidize the wages of the working class, to the detriment of both.

You're right about wages but wrong about the cause. The US has been dabbling in globalization for the past 25 years and lowering the standard of living here to match Europe and Asia. Now you want to implement a Santa Clause government here to match the rest of the world. Wonderful promises of free gifts under the tree.

The people here didn't just fall off the turnip truck but that's what the poor from neighboring countries are being marched across our borders for. Lyndon Johnson's legacy has come home.

America has always given away "free stuff". At, even before the revolution, colonies gave away free land and once the nation was formed it continued with the federal government. The land was given away to individuals, including immigrants, and private businesses. So, giving away free stuff has always and still is a competition between individual citizens and private business interests. The only thing that changes over the decades and centuries is which ideology and partisans decide who gets what share of the free stuff pie.

Sure, one minor detail, those that received the free land were expected and more than willing to work and improve the land. Not to be some lazy ass liberal.

 

[bripat9643]

Trump managed to pull in the I hate Hillary vote

There is no I hate Biden vote

No one hates a clueless clown.

 

[ph3iron]

I don't think Biden will be the nominee, but then it's my belief that he's too old. In each of the debates, Joe's weaknesses as a candidate were on full display. Ditto Bernie.

These guys have had 40 years in government and they've done little in their time in office to suggest that they have good ideas to fix things. Joe's getting a lot of heat for crap he authored, voted for and thought were good ideas at the time. You had your chance, and you blew it Joe. What would ever make us think that going back to the old ways, is going to work going forward? As we've seen with Donald Trump repealling regulations, and trying to revive the coal industry, you can't go back. The world has moved on and the USA needs to move forward, not back.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

I don't think Biden will be the nominee, but then it's my belief that he's too old. In each of the debates, Joe's weaknesses as a candidate were on full display. Ditto Bernie.

These guys have had 40 years in government and they've done little in their time in office to suggest that they have good ideas to fix things. Joe's getting a lot of heat for crap he authored, voted for and thought were good ideas at the time. You had your chance, and you blew it Joe. What would ever make us think that going back to the old ways, is going to work going forward? As we've seen with Donald Trump repealling regulations, and trying to revive the coal industry, you can't go back. The world has moved on and the USA needs to move forward, not back.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

Yeah, free things like health care for all, and a quality education for all. Things that will lift up the entire nation. Things that are available to the citizens of every other first world nation in the world. Things that will help to grow the middle class, instead of shrinking it, which is what has been going on since Reagan changed the tax code.

Other countries consider programs which help educated and support the most vulnerable people in their population as "good governance", and governing for the majority of your citizens. Only radical American conservatives call programs which help their people and their economy "free shit". These self-same people who consider free education, and cell phones for the poor and the unemployed "free shit" should ask themselves how these people are going to get a job if they don't have a phone, or an education.

Smart people call this "enlightened self interest". If the person on welfare has a phone, and a potential employer can call them, maybe they'll get a job and get off welfare. Maybe if their children get a good education which properly prepares them for employment in the 21st Century, maybe the next generation can leave poverty behind.

2% of the population is currently able to lift themselves out of poverty. When Ronald Reagan was elected and ended the War on Poverty, that number was 20%. Right now 98 children out of 100, born into poverty in the USA, will remain in poverty all of their lives and will always be a drain on the public purse. Conservative tax, economic and education policies are encouraging and growing poverty, not decreasing it.

Instead of massive, government funded retraining projects in the mid-west to re-educate workers and train them for 21st Century jobs, Trump wants to bring back low skill manufacturing jobs. Instead of raising the minimum wage, conservatives want to increase the "earned income credit", making taxpayers responsible for subsidizing and financially supporting the low paid workers of some of the most profitable corporations in America. The reason these companies are so profitable is because they're underpaying their workers, while screwing the middle class, and conservative governments are helping them do this.

No other nation in the world makes the middle class subsidize the wages of the working class, to the detriment of both.

You're right about wages but wrong about the cause. The US has been dabbling in globalization for the past 25 years and lowering the standard of living here to match Europe and Asia. Now you want to implement a Santa Clause government here to match the rest of the world. Wonderful promises of free gifts under the tree.

The people here didn't just fall off the turnip truck but that's what the poor from neighboring countries are being marched across our borders for. Lyndon Johnson's legacy has come home.

Much could be accomplished, if our corrupt government didn’t spend over one trillion annually on an imperialistic military.

Yep, they could get you free healthcare, free college, free income, we know the drill, dumbass.

Why do you insult?
Don't realise it says everything about you?
Zero college to start

 

[bripat9643]

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

Yeah, free things like health care for all, and a quality education for all. Things that will lift up the entire nation. Things that are available to the citizens of every other first world nation in the world. Things that will help to grow the middle class, instead of shrinking it, which is what has been going on since Reagan changed the tax code.

Other countries consider programs which help educated and support the most vulnerable people in their population as "good governance", and governing for the majority of your citizens. Only radical American conservatives call programs which help their people and their economy "free shit". These self-same people who consider free education, and cell phones for the poor and the unemployed "free shit" should ask themselves how these people are going to get a job if they don't have a phone, or an education.

Smart people call this "enlightened self interest". If the person on welfare has a phone, and a potential employer can call them, maybe they'll get a job and get off welfare. Maybe if their children get a good education which properly prepares them for employment in the 21st Century, maybe the next generation can leave poverty behind.

2% of the population is currently able to lift themselves out of poverty. When Ronald Reagan was elected and ended the War on Poverty, that number was 20%. Right now 98 children out of 100, born into poverty in the USA, will remain in poverty all of their lives and will always be a drain on the public purse. Conservative tax, economic and education policies are encouraging and growing poverty, not decreasing it.

Instead of massive, government funded retraining projects in the mid-west to re-educate workers and train them for 21st Century jobs, Trump wants to bring back low skill manufacturing jobs. Instead of raising the minimum wage, conservatives want to increase the "earned income credit", making taxpayers responsible for subsidizing and financially supporting the low paid workers of some of the most profitable corporations in America. The reason these companies are so profitable is because they're underpaying their workers, while screwing the middle class, and conservative governments are helping them do this.

No other nation in the world makes the middle class subsidize the wages of the working class, to the detriment of both.

You're right about wages but wrong about the cause. The US has been dabbling in globalization for the past 25 years and lowering the standard of living here to match Europe and Asia. Now you want to implement a Santa Clause government here to match the rest of the world. Wonderful promises of free gifts under the tree.

The people here didn't just fall off the turnip truck but that's what the poor from neighboring countries are being marched across our borders for. Lyndon Johnson's legacy has come home.

Much could be accomplished, if our corrupt government didn’t spend over one trillion annually on an imperialistic military.

Yep, they could get you free healthcare, free college, free income, we know the drill, dumbass.

Why do you insult?
Don't realise it says everything about you?
Zero college to start

Wrong. H.L. Mencken was a genius, and he insulted people all the time. Of course, if insults are all you can do, then most likely you are a dumbass.

 

[Thinker101]

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

Yeah, free things like health care for all, and a quality education for all. Things that will lift up the entire nation. Things that are available to the citizens of every other first world nation in the world. Things that will help to grow the middle class, instead of shrinking it, which is what has been going on since Reagan changed the tax code.

Other countries consider programs which help educated and support the most vulnerable people in their population as "good governance", and governing for the majority of your citizens. Only radical American conservatives call programs which help their people and their economy "free shit". These self-same people who consider free education, and cell phones for the poor and the unemployed "free shit" should ask themselves how these people are going to get a job if they don't have a phone, or an education.

Smart people call this "enlightened self interest". If the person on welfare has a phone, and a potential employer can call them, maybe they'll get a job and get off welfare. Maybe if their children get a good education which properly prepares them for employment in the 21st Century, maybe the next generation can leave poverty behind.

2% of the population is currently able to lift themselves out of poverty. When Ronald Reagan was elected and ended the War on Poverty, that number was 20%. Right now 98 children out of 100, born into poverty in the USA, will remain in poverty all of their lives and will always be a drain on the public purse. Conservative tax, economic and education policies are encouraging and growing poverty, not decreasing it.

Instead of massive, government funded retraining projects in the mid-west to re-educate workers and train them for 21st Century jobs, Trump wants to bring back low skill manufacturing jobs. Instead of raising the minimum wage, conservatives want to increase the "earned income credit", making taxpayers responsible for subsidizing and financially supporting the low paid workers of some of the most profitable corporations in America. The reason these companies are so profitable is because they're underpaying their workers, while screwing the middle class, and conservative governments are helping them do this.

No other nation in the world makes the middle class subsidize the wages of the working class, to the detriment of both.

You're right about wages but wrong about the cause. The US has been dabbling in globalization for the past 25 years and lowering the standard of living here to match Europe and Asia. Now you want to implement a Santa Clause government here to match the rest of the world. Wonderful promises of free gifts under the tree.

The people here didn't just fall off the turnip truck but that's what the poor from neighboring countries are being marched across our borders for. Lyndon Johnson's legacy has come home.

Much could be accomplished, if our corrupt government didn’t spend over one trillion annually on an imperialistic military.

As a percentage of annual GDP, the United States spends less on defense now than it did during the peace time of the 1980s. National Defense is the most important function of the government. The United States has typically underfunded its military except during World War II.

Funding of the military should be dependent on the threat we face

Acting as the worlds policeman is not a threat

Sure, we can wait for a threat, then put money into the military. Dumbest thing you've said today (so far). Is that how you live? Don't do any maintenance on the house until it starts to crumble, don't put tires on the car until they go flat...idiot.

 

[Thinker101]

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

Yeah, free things like health care for all, and a quality education for all. Things that will lift up the entire nation. Things that are available to the citizens of every other first world nation in the world. Things that will help to grow the middle class, instead of shrinking it, which is what has been going on since Reagan changed the tax code.

Other countries consider programs which help educated and support the most vulnerable people in their population as "good governance", and governing for the majority of your citizens. Only radical American conservatives call programs which help their people and their economy "free shit". These self-same people who consider free education, and cell phones for the poor and the unemployed "free shit" should ask themselves how these people are going to get a job if they don't have a phone, or an education.

Smart people call this "enlightened self interest". If the person on welfare has a phone, and a potential employer can call them, maybe they'll get a job and get off welfare. Maybe if their children get a good education which properly prepares them for employment in the 21st Century, maybe the next generation can leave poverty behind.

2% of the population is currently able to lift themselves out of poverty. When Ronald Reagan was elected and ended the War on Poverty, that number was 20%. Right now 98 children out of 100, born into poverty in the USA, will remain in poverty all of their lives and will always be a drain on the public purse. Conservative tax, economic and education policies are encouraging and growing poverty, not decreasing it.

Instead of massive, government funded retraining projects in the mid-west to re-educate workers and train them for 21st Century jobs, Trump wants to bring back low skill manufacturing jobs. Instead of raising the minimum wage, conservatives want to increase the "earned income credit", making taxpayers responsible for subsidizing and financially supporting the low paid workers of some of the most profitable corporations in America. The reason these companies are so profitable is because they're underpaying their workers, while screwing the middle class, and conservative governments are helping them do this.

No other nation in the world makes the middle class subsidize the wages of the working class, to the detriment of both.

You're right about wages but wrong about the cause. The US has been dabbling in globalization for the past 25 years and lowering the standard of living here to match Europe and Asia. Now you want to implement a Santa Clause government here to match the rest of the world. Wonderful promises of free gifts under the tree.

The people here didn't just fall off the turnip truck but that's what the poor from neighboring countries are being marched across our borders for. Lyndon Johnson's legacy has come home.

Much could be accomplished, if our corrupt government didn’t spend over one trillion annually on an imperialistic military.

Yep, they could get you free healthcare, free college, free income, we know the drill, dumbass.

Why do you insult?
Don't realise it says everything about you?
Zero college to start

Oh gee, does it hurt your feelings? Suck it up cupcake.

 

[rightwinger]

I don't think Biden will be the nominee, but then it's my belief that he's too old. In each of the debates, Joe's weaknesses as a candidate were on full display. Ditto Bernie.

These guys have had 40 years in government and they've done little in their time in office to suggest that they have good ideas to fix things. Joe's getting a lot of heat for crap he authored, voted for and thought were good ideas at the time. You had your chance, and you blew it Joe. What would ever make us think that going back to the old ways, is going to work going forward? As we've seen with Donald Trump repealling regulations, and trying to revive the coal industry, you can't go back. The world has moved on and the USA needs to move forward, not back.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

I don't think Biden will be the nominee, but then it's my belief that he's too old. In each of the debates, Joe's weaknesses as a candidate were on full display. Ditto Bernie.

These guys have had 40 years in government and they've done little in their time in office to suggest that they have good ideas to fix things. Joe's getting a lot of heat for crap he authored, voted for and thought were good ideas at the time. You had your chance, and you blew it Joe. What would ever make us think that going back to the old ways, is going to work going forward? As we've seen with Donald Trump repealling regulations, and trying to revive the coal industry, you can't go back. The world has moved on and the USA needs to move forward, not back.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

Yeah, free things like health care for all, and a quality education for all. Things that will lift up the entire nation. Things that are available to the citizens of every other first world nation in the world. Things that will help to grow the middle class, instead of shrinking it, which is what has been going on since Reagan changed the tax code.

Other countries consider programs which help educated and support the most vulnerable people in their population as "good governance", and governing for the majority of your citizens. Only radical American conservatives call programs which help their people and their economy "free shit". These self-same people who consider free education, and cell phones for the poor and the unemployed "free shit" should ask themselves how these people are going to get a job if they don't have a phone, or an education.

Smart people call this "enlightened self interest". If the person on welfare has a phone, and a potential employer can call them, maybe they'll get a job and get off welfare. Maybe if their children get a good education which properly prepares them for employment in the 21st Century, maybe the next generation can leave poverty behind.

2% of the population is currently able to lift themselves out of poverty. When Ronald Reagan was elected and ended the War on Poverty, that number was 20%. Right now 98 children out of 100, born into poverty in the USA, will remain in poverty all of their lives and will always be a drain on the public purse. Conservative tax, economic and education policies are encouraging and growing poverty, not decreasing it.

Instead of massive, government funded retraining projects in the mid-west to re-educate workers and train them for 21st Century jobs, Trump wants to bring back low skill manufacturing jobs. Instead of raising the minimum wage, conservatives want to increase the "earned income credit", making taxpayers responsible for subsidizing and financially supporting the low paid workers of some of the most profitable corporations in America. The reason these companies are so profitable is because they're underpaying their workers, while screwing the middle class, and conservative governments are helping them do this.

No other nation in the world makes the middle class subsidize the wages of the working class, to the detriment of both.

What other country would you want to be like? Nothing is preventing you to move to one of those other countries.

Go back to your country!

Where have I heard that one before?

Evidently reading comprehension is a big void in your life...dumbass.

You guys are a one trick pony

 

[rightwinger]

Yeah, free things like health care for all, and a quality education for all. Things that will lift up the entire nation. Things that are available to the citizens of every other first world nation in the world. Things that will help to grow the middle class, instead of shrinking it, which is what has been going on since Reagan changed the tax code.

Other countries consider programs which help educated and support the most vulnerable people in their population as "good governance", and governing for the majority of your citizens. Only radical American conservatives call programs which help their people and their economy "free shit". These self-same people who consider free education, and cell phones for the poor and the unemployed "free shit" should ask themselves how these people are going to get a job if they don't have a phone, or an education.

Smart people call this "enlightened self interest". If the person on welfare has a phone, and a potential employer can call them, maybe they'll get a job and get off welfare. Maybe if their children get a good education which properly prepares them for employment in the 21st Century, maybe the next generation can leave poverty behind.

2% of the population is currently able to lift themselves out of poverty. When Ronald Reagan was elected and ended the War on Poverty, that number was 20%. Right now 98 children out of 100, born into poverty in the USA, will remain in poverty all of their lives and will always be a drain on the public purse. Conservative tax, economic and education policies are encouraging and growing poverty, not decreasing it.

Instead of massive, government funded retraining projects in the mid-west to re-educate workers and train them for 21st Century jobs, Trump wants to bring back low skill manufacturing jobs. Instead of raising the minimum wage, conservatives want to increase the "earned income credit", making taxpayers responsible for subsidizing and financially supporting the low paid workers of some of the most profitable corporations in America. The reason these companies are so profitable is because they're underpaying their workers, while screwing the middle class, and conservative governments are helping them do this.

No other nation in the world makes the middle class subsidize the wages of the working class, to the detriment of both.

You're right about wages but wrong about the cause. The US has been dabbling in globalization for the past 25 years and lowering the standard of living here to match Europe and Asia. Now you want to implement a Santa Clause government here to match the rest of the world. Wonderful promises of free gifts under the tree.

The people here didn't just fall off the turnip truck but that's what the poor from neighboring countries are being marched across our borders for. Lyndon Johnson's legacy has come home.

Much could be accomplished, if our corrupt government didn’t spend over one trillion annually on an imperialistic military.

As a percentage of annual GDP, the United States spends less on defense now than it did during the peace time of the 1980s. National Defense is the most important function of the government. The United States has typically underfunded its military except during World War II.

Funding of the military should be dependent on the threat we face

Acting as the worlds policeman is not a threat

Sure, we can wait for a threat, then put money into the military. Dumbest thing you've said today (so far). Is that how you live? Don't do any maintenance on the house until it starts to crumble, don't put tires on the car until they go flat...idiot.

Who is the threat to the United States that warrants us maintaining a military that is stronger than the next eight nations combined ?

Our nation is surrounded by two massive oceans and two peaceful neighbors. We have not been invaded in 200 years

Now.....show me the threat

 

[Thinker101]

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

Yep, let's rely on the other loonies that want to give away all the freebie stuff, that'll definitely fix things.

Yeah, free things like health care for all, and a quality education for all. Things that will lift up the entire nation. Things that are available to the citizens of every other first world nation in the world. Things that will help to grow the middle class, instead of shrinking it, which is what has been going on since Reagan changed the tax code.

Other countries consider programs which help educated and support the most vulnerable people in their population as "good governance", and governing for the majority of your citizens. Only radical American conservatives call programs which help their people and their economy "free shit". These self-same people who consider free education, and cell phones for the poor and the unemployed "free shit" should ask themselves how these people are going to get a job if they don't have a phone, or an education.

Smart people call this "enlightened self interest". If the person on welfare has a phone, and a potential employer can call them, maybe they'll get a job and get off welfare. Maybe if their children get a good education which properly prepares them for employment in the 21st Century, maybe the next generation can leave poverty behind.

2% of the population is currently able to lift themselves out of poverty. When Ronald Reagan was elected and ended the War on Poverty, that number was 20%. Right now 98 children out of 100, born into poverty in the USA, will remain in poverty all of their lives and will always be a drain on the public purse. Conservative tax, economic and education policies are encouraging and growing poverty, not decreasing it.

Instead of massive, government funded retraining projects in the mid-west to re-educate workers and train them for 21st Century jobs, Trump wants to bring back low skill manufacturing jobs. Instead of raising the minimum wage, conservatives want to increase the "earned income credit", making taxpayers responsible for subsidizing and financially supporting the low paid workers of some of the most profitable corporations in America. The reason these companies are so profitable is because they're underpaying their workers, while screwing the middle class, and conservative governments are helping them do this.

No other nation in the world makes the middle class subsidize the wages of the working class, to the detriment of both.

What other country would you want to be like? Nothing is preventing you to move to one of those other countries.

Go back to your country!

Where have I heard that one before?

Evidently reading comprehension is a big void in your life...dumbass.

You guys are a one trick pony

Yet "you guys" are putting on a dog and pony show...go figure.