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# Power the U.S. With Solar Panels!

#### ding

##### Confront reality
I think your problem in understanding this concept stems from your reluctance to agree that it's logical that solar farms would reduce the heat above solar farms during the daytime because solar is converting heat into electricity during the daytime.

I already explained that 760 is less than 850. Did you miss that math?

Also, it's NOT converting heat into electricity.
You can quibble all you want. It doesn't change the fact that whatever energy that was converted into electricity can't also have been used to heat the surface of the planet.

#### ding

##### Confront reality
When I use electricity, heat is produced.

Happens to you as well, right?
Can't discuss that until you admit that solar farms create a cooling effect.

#### Toddsterpatriot

##### Diamond Member
Let's do this one step at a time.

Whatever energy that was converted into electricity can't also have been used to heat the surface of the planet. Right?

The energy that would have warmed the panel is moved to the city.
Then it heats the city.

#### ding

##### Confront reality
Also, it's NOT converting heat into electricity.
What do you believe solar radiation is?

#### Toddsterpatriot

##### Diamond Member
You can quibble all you want. It doesn't change the fact that whatever energy that was converted into electricity can't also have been used to heat the surface of the planet.

There is no quibble. The panel has a lower albedo than the surface.
Less energy is reflected back to space. Less reflected energy means a warmer planet.
Whether it warms the unplugged panel or warms the city if the panel is connected to the grid.

#### ding

##### Confront reality
The energy that would have warmed the panel is moved to the city.
Then it heats the city.
So you are saying there is a cooling effect at solar farms.

#### ding

##### Confront reality
There is no quibble. The panel has a lower albedo than the surface.
Less energy is reflected back to space. Less reflected energy means a warmer planet.
Whether it warms the unplugged panel or warms the city if the panel is connected to the grid.
All you have done is quibble. For the most part it's all you ever do.

#### Toddsterpatriot

##### Diamond Member
What do you believe solar radiation is?

Solar radiation, often called the solar resource or just sunlight, is a general term for the electromagnetic radiation emitted by the sun.

#### Toddsterpatriot

##### Diamond Member
So you are saying there is a cooling effect at solar farms.

760 < 850

#### Toddsterpatriot

##### Diamond Member
All you have done is quibble. For the most part it's all you ever do.

I keep pointing out your errors.

#### ding

##### Confront reality
Solar radiation, often called the solar resource or just sunlight, is a general term for the electromagnetic radiation emitted by the sun.

Fantastic. It's all heat.

#### ding

##### Confront reality
760 < 850
Is that a yes?

So you have no issues with there being an expectation that solar farms will have a regional cooling effect?

#### Toddsterpatriot

##### Diamond Member
Fantastic. It's all heat.

You think solar panels covert heat into electricity? That's funny!

#### Toddsterpatriot

##### Diamond Member
Is that a yes?

So you have no issues with there being an expectation that solar farms will have a regional cooling effect?

So you have no issues with there being an expectation that using solar electricity will have a regional warming effect?

#### ding

##### Confront reality
You think solar panels covert heat into electricity? That's funny!
I think you are showing everyone how butt hurt you are with your games.

#### ding

##### Confront reality
So you have no issues with there being an expectation that using solar electricity will have a regional warming effect?
I have an issue with your statement that solar power results in net warming.

Do you have any issue with there being an expectation that solar farms create a regional cooling effect as evidenced by measurements at six solar farms?

#### Toddsterpatriot

##### Diamond Member
I think you are showing everyone how butt hurt you are with your games.

Pointing out your confusion doesn't hurt me even a little bit.

#### Toddsterpatriot

##### Diamond Member
Of course I have issues with that.

Do you have any issue with there being an expectation that solar farms create a regional cooling effect as evidenced by measurements at six solar farms?

Why would you have an issue with that?
Doesn't electricity usage generate waste heat?

I don't have an issue with 760 < 850. Do you?

#### ding

##### Confront reality
Pointing out your confusion doesn't hurt me even a little bit.

Thanks for proving my point.

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