Power the U.S. With Solar Panels!

[there4eyeM]

An intelligent species would not try to live in hostile environments that lack easily available energy. An intelligent species would eagerly seek intelligent alternatives to dependence upon polluting, rare, expensive energy. An intelligent species would not try to make one energy source do everything.

 

[haveatit]

Solar panels going to power Chicago through a cold, dark, and snowy February?
You want to bet your life on that?

Doing otherwise, your life has already been bet. And it is a bet you are going to eventually lose. Unless you die from natural causes before them.

 

[haveatit]

I love the pie in the sky attitude you have.

The efficacy of solar panels isn't pie in the sky.

 

[haveatit]

An intelligent species would not try to live in hostile environments that lack easily available energy. An intelligent species would eagerly seek intelligent alternatives to dependence upon polluting, rare, expensive energy. An intelligent species would not try to make one energy source do everything.

An intelligent species would go with whatever has been proven to work. That doesn't destroy the environment.

 

[ding]

The efficacy of solar panels isn't pie in the sky.

Your beliefs are.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Doing otherwise, your life has already been bet. And it is a bet you are going to eventually lose. Unless you die from natural causes before them.

Doing otherwise, your life has already been bet.

Obviously. I win, heating with natural gas.

And it is a bet you are going to eventually lose.

Oh, we have to freeze to death in the winter, so we don't eventually lose. Thanks! Moron.

 

[sparky]

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[haveatit]

Your beliefs are.

It isn't a matter of belief. It's a matter of tried and true science.

 

[haveatit]

Doing otherwise, your life has already been bet.

Obviously. I win, heating with natural gas.

And it is a bet you are going to eventually lose.

Oh, we have to freeze to death in the winter, so we don't eventually lose. Thanks! Moron.

No. Obviously you lose. Next, did you see that graph in the beginning thread? A one hundred forty mile square area of solar panels to power the U.S. Do we have the land? More than enough. Also, there is enough pavement in the U.S. to pave over the state of West Virginia. What if much of that pavement, such as over roads, was covered in solar panels. (That isn't even including rooftops) We would have far more power than we need. Both day and night. You also talk about freezing to death. Eskimos don't freeze to death. And they go through much colder winters than you do.

 

[haveatit]

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~S~

From what I heard, the person who came up with the water powered car was killed by poisoning.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No. Obviously you lose. Next, did you see that graph in the beginning thread? A one hundred forty mile square area of solar panels to power the U.S. Do we have the land? More than enough. Also, there is enough pavement in the U.S. to pave over the state of West Virginia. What if much of that pavement, such as over roads, was covered in solar panels. (That isn't even including rooftops) We would have far more power than we need. Both day and night. You also talk about freezing to death. Eskimos don't freeze to death. And they go through much colder winters than you do.

No. Obviously you lose.

I didn't freeze to death in the Chicago winter. Winning!!!

Next, did you see that graph in the beginning thread?

That wasn't a graph.

A one hundred forty mile square area of solar panels to power the U.S.

So what?

What if much of that pavement, such as over roads, was covered in solar panels.

You want cars driving over your power source? Damn....you stupid!

We would have far more power than we need. Both day and night.

You should do that. In Chicago. In winter.

Eskimos don't freeze to death.

Wow. Very convincing. Why do you hate seals?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

From what I heard, the person who came up with the water powered car was killed by poisoning.

He ate too many lead paint chips.

 

[ding]

It isn't a matter of belief. It's a matter of tried and true science.

No. It's a matter of math. And the math says that low energy density technology like batteries and intermittent electrical generating technologies like solar and wind aren't practical. That's what you have a pie in the sky attitude about. You think this will be easy and there won't be any trade offs. That's not the case. It will be painful.

 

[there4eyeM]

It will be particularly painful for the oil companies; no more hundreds of dollars per second of net profits. Painful for America's enemies, too; no more dependence on oil supplies.

 

[sparky]

From what I heard, the person who came up with the water powered car was killed by poisoning.

Rumor is, a lot of energy as well as medical remedies never saw the light of day. It's reasonable to expect corporate America to thwart competition , it's tin hat stuff to consider literally killing it

~S~

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It will be particularly painful for the oil companies; no more hundreds of dollars per second of net profits. Painful for America's enemies, too; no more dependence on oil supplies.

What is a fair profit per second for such a useful commodity?

 

[lg325]

The problem with asking that question is we don't ask the follow-up question of how do we power the US when there is no sun available? Which is something we can't currently do.

Stored in batteries until needed.

 

[there4eyeM]

Power corrupts, and too much economic power corrupts absolutely.

 

[Crick]

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Power corrupts, and too much economic power corrupts absolutely.

I think there's a corrupting influence to be had from anonymous discussion forums on the internet.

 

[there4eyeM]

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I think there's a corrupting influence to be had from anonymous discussion forums on the internet.

The forums certainly confirm the presence of societal corruption. Public dialog such as our grandparents still knew is totally impossible today. Metaphor is wasted. Nuance and broad innuendo are no longer understood, so never appreciated. Polarization instantly imposes on any level of interchange, with camps 'identified' from the first syllable and no escape available.
The forums are a symptom. They might be a causal agent as well.