CDZ Poverty, what it is between a capitalist society and socialist/communistic society.

[AMart]

I agree with that.

It’s most ironic that the world’s richest nation can’t provide HC for it’s citizens but much of the rest of the world can, including poor nations like Cuba.

To be honest, I think that there's been a sort of Trump revolution that has brought that truth to a great many of the American people. But that's not to suggest that Trump would have ever done the job. Just that he promised to do it.

And yes, it's quite amazing what Cuba, a resource poor banana republic has been able to do for it's people.

Cubans not only get free HC, but I’m betting their HC is better than ours. The profit motive in HC really fucks up care in the US. Remember? The third leading cause of death in the US is death by doctor.

LOL Cuba is a disaster. They have medical tourism for wealthy foreigners in nice clinics and their doctors don't get paid dust. Regular Cuban's access to "healthcare" is run down clinics and hospitals that have very limited staffing, medicine, supplies. The Cuban government sends most of their Doctors abroad and they confiscate most of their salary.

I’m not sure that’s true, but our HC is most certainly a disaster.

Everything I posted is true. I would not call the US HC system a disaster, complicated yes, world class facilities and staff yes. A good portion of the population of Earth is born and dies and never really sees a doctor in their life.

 

[gipper]

I agree with that.

It’s most ironic that the world’s richest nation can’t provide HC for it’s citizens but much of the rest of the world can, including poor nations like Cuba.

To be honest, I think that there's been a sort of Trump revolution that has brought that truth to a great many of the American people. But that's not to suggest that Trump would have ever done the job. Just that he promised to do it.

And yes, it's quite amazing what Cuba, a resource poor banana republic has been able to do for it's people.

Cubans not only get free HC, but I’m betting their HC is better than ours. The profit motive in HC really fucks up care in the US. Remember? The third leading cause of death in the US is death by doctor.

LOL Cuba is a disaster. They have medical tourism for wealthy foreigners in nice clinics and their doctors don't get paid dust. Regular Cuban's access to "healthcare" is run down clinics and hospitals that have very limited staffing, medicine, supplies. The Cuban government sends most of their Doctors abroad and they confiscate most of their salary.

I’m not sure that’s true, but our HC is most certainly a disaster.

Everything I posted is true. I would not call the US HC system a disaster, complicated yes, world class facilities and staff yes. A good portion of the population of Earth is born and dies and never really sees a doctor in their life.

It’s only world class in very few places. Hopefully we end up there rather than the more common occurrence is your doctor is your executioner.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

In China... the line between the have's and the have nots is razor thin. Almost invisible.

You have no idea what you are talking about here. Your entire comment this was taken from is filled with false conceptions about modern China and Chinese life in general.

Yeah?
Chinas average annual wages 2018-2019.... $13,800
Chinas min. wage - $1.52/ hr, however a great deal of Chinese factory workers make less than that because the government wants to pay them less, and who can complain?
The annual cost of monthly food alone is more than min. wage, which indeed makes a lot of Chinese people having to share living space to pool their income just to survive.

Prove that wrong. And don't bother to link to data that is provided by the Chinese government, which is laughably false.

 

[Donald H]

Hate propaganda against China really has gotten a bite on Americans. It must feel good to be able to demonize their competitors.

Canada ranked #1 country in the world for Quality of Life | News

For the fifth year in a row, Canada is ranked the #1 country in the world in 2020 for Quality of Life, according to a global ranking from US News.

dailyhive.com

Here are the 20 best countries for Quality of Life in 2020

1. Canada
2. Denmark
3. Sweden
4. Norway
5. Australia
6. Netherlands
7. Switzerland
8. New Zealand
9. Finland
10. Germany
11. Austria
12. United Kingdom
13. Luxembourg
14. Japan
15. United States
16. France
17. Portugal
18. Spain
19. China
20. Singapore

Closing in on America.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Hate propaganda against China really has gotten a bite on Americans. It must feel good to be able to demonize their competitors.

Canada ranked #1 country in the world for Quality of Life | News

For the fifth year in a row, Canada is ranked the #1 country in the world in 2020 for Quality of Life, according to a global ranking from US News.

dailyhive.com

Here are the 20 best countries for Quality of Life in 2020

1. Canada
2. Denmark
3. Sweden
4. Norway
5. Australia
6. Netherlands
7. Switzerland
8. New Zealand
9. Finland
10. Germany
11. Austria
12. United Kingdom
13. Luxembourg
14. Japan
15. United States
16. France
17. Portugal
18. Spain
19. China
20. Singapore

Closing in on America.

That all depends on what standards you use. You can make a list read any way you want to by picking and choosing what to base it upon. Other than the USA, none of the top twenty would make my list.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I agree with that.

It’s most ironic that the world’s richest nation can’t provide HC for it’s citizens but much of the rest of the world can, including poor nations like Cuba.

To be honest, I think that there's been a sort of Trump revolution that has brought that truth to a great many of the American people. But that's not to suggest that Trump would have ever done the job. Just that he promised to do it.

And yes, it's quite amazing what Cuba, a resource poor banana republic has been able to do for it's people.

Cubans not only get free HC, but I’m betting their HC is better than ours. The profit motive in HC really fucks up care in the US. Remember? The third leading cause of death in the US is death by doctor.

Cubans not only get free HC, but I’m betting their HC is better than ours. The profit motive in HC really fucks up care in the US.

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get any healthcare at all. While you think a doctor making no more than $15/hr is good, normal people don’t.

 

[gipper]

I agree with that.

It’s most ironic that the world’s richest nation can’t provide HC for it’s citizens but much of the rest of the world can, including poor nations like Cuba.

To be honest, I think that there's been a sort of Trump revolution that has brought that truth to a great many of the American people. But that's not to suggest that Trump would have ever done the job. Just that he promised to do it.

And yes, it's quite amazing what Cuba, a resource poor banana republic has been able to do for it's people.

Cubans not only get free HC, but I’m betting their HC is better than ours. The profit motive in HC really fucks up care in the US. Remember? The third leading cause of death in the US is death by doctor.

Cubans not only get free HC, but I’m betting their HC is better than ours. The profit motive in HC really fucks up care in the US.

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get any healthcare at all. While you think a doctor making no more than $15/hr is good, normal people don’t.

Yeah that’s what I think. How did you know?

 

[alang1216]

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get any healthcare at all. While you think a doctor making no more than $15/hr is good, normal people don’t.

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get access to the COVID vaccines. If you're making $15/hr and everyone around you is making $1/hr, you're going to live like a king.

 

[Flash]

In the interest of starting a discussion I've inserted another option between the two extremes.

Poverty:

In Socialism/Communism, poverty is a state of existence at birth. You are either born in poverty, where you will stay. Or you are born among the elite, where you will stay. Examples of this fact, exist throughout history, all over the globe. *

Socially Responsible Capitalism, in which the citizens of a country are treated fairly, regardless of their wealth, and receive the benefits their government is capable of providing for them. This is the norm in the world's leading demcracies which are rated as the top ten on quality of life. It differs from capitalism in America that allows two richest billionaires to hold the equivalent wealth of the bottom half of the country's population.

In America's capitalist society, poverty is really two different states:
1) A temporary, escape-able condition (such as a business closure) or
2) A result of non participation in opportunities afforded to you.
3) In which poverty isn't escapable for those made poor by the greed.

Note: I've made some necessary adjustments to some of the categories, in the interest of truthfulness and honest debate.

*It must also be noted that communism evolves without outside interference by rogue military countries into extremely prosperous capitalism under communist control that ensures no citizen becomes so wealthy as to be stealing the wealth of the entire country's resources.

It is not escapable because the assholes don't want to work. Why work and better yourself when all you have to do is join the Democrat welfare plantation?

 

[Flash]

If you are dependent upon the filthy ass government to steal money from other people to pay your bills then you a pretty sorry asshole in the first place and will never amount to anything.

 

[sartre play]

We do have a few questions that need to be answered, How did our richest nation in the world end up with such an over whelming population of homeless people.

 

[Donald H]

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get any healthcare at all. While you think a doctor making no more than $15/hr is good, normal people don’t.

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get access to the COVID vaccines. If you're making $15/hr and everyone around you is making $1/hr, you're going to live like a king.

In fact, Cuba has done better with vaccines than any other country in the Americas.

The protesting in Cuba is once again promoted by the US and exaggerated. This is the same familiar pattern we've seen in Hong Kong.

The US knows it's about to lose all influence in Cuba to China.
That's not reversible now.
Both China and Russia are coming to the rescue of Cuba for stretegic purposes and that happens to be humanitarian benefit to Cuba too.
The US carried on it's dirty tricks too long and now it won't find a way back into Cuba.

Join me and all Canadians in wishing the best for Cuba! Americans don't always have to be hateful pigs.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get any healthcare at all. While you think a doctor making no more than $15/hr is good, normal people don’t.

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get access to the COVID vaccines. If you're making $15/hr and everyone around you is making $1/hr, you're going to live like a king.

In fact, Cuba has done better with vaccines than any other country in the Americas.

The protesting in Cuba is once again promoted by the US and exaggerated. This is the same familiar pattern we've seen in Hong Kong.

The US knows it's about to lose all influence in Cuba to China.
That's not reversible now.
Both China and Russia are coming to the rescue of Cuba for stretegic purposes and that happens to be humanitarian benefit to Cuba too.
The US carried on it's dirty tricks too long and now it won't find a way back into Cuba.

Join me and all Canadians in wishing the best for Cuba! Americans don't always have to be hateful pigs.

That’s a lie. Only 16% of Cubans have had the Trump vaccine.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get any healthcare at all. While you think a doctor making no more than $15/hr is good, normal people don’t.

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get access to the COVID vaccines. If you're making $15/hr and everyone around you is making $1/hr, you're going to live like a king.

Yeah, that’s why ZERO of you Leftists move to Cuba.

 

[gipper]

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get any healthcare at all. While you think a doctor making no more than $15/hr is good, normal people don’t.

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get access to the COVID vaccines. If you're making $15/hr and everyone around you is making $1/hr, you're going to live like a king.

Yeah, that’s why ZERO of you Leftists move to Cuba.

Imagine how great Cuba could be if the empire stopped fucking with it?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get any healthcare at all. While you think a doctor making no more than $15/hr is good, normal people don’t.

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get access to the COVID vaccines. If you're making $15/hr and everyone around you is making $1/hr, you're going to live like a king.

Yeah, that’s why ZERO of you Leftists move to Cuba.

Imagine how great Cuba could be if the empire stopped fucking with it?

Every nation on earth can trade with Cuba.

 

[gipper]

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get any healthcare at all. While you think a doctor making no more than $15/hr is good, normal people don’t.

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get access to the COVID vaccines. If you're making $15/hr and everyone around you is making $1/hr, you're going to live like a king.

Yeah, that’s why ZERO of you Leftists move to Cuba.

Imagine how great Cuba could be if the empire stopped fucking with it?

Every nation on earth can trade with Cuba.

No. The nation with the largest economy can’t.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get any healthcare at all. While you think a doctor making no more than $15/hr is good, normal people don’t.

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get access to the COVID vaccines. If you're making $15/hr and everyone around you is making $1/hr, you're going to live like a king.

Yeah, that’s why ZERO of you Leftists move to Cuba.

Imagine how great Cuba could be if the empire stopped fucking with it?

Every nation on earth can trade with Cuba.

No. The nation with the largest economy can’t.

Ah. That Capitalist nation has the largest economy, and singlehandly destroy any nation on earth by simply ignoring it.

 

[alang1216]

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get any healthcare at all. While you think a doctor making no more than $15/hr is good, normal people don’t.

Cubans are rioting because they can’t get access to the COVID vaccines. If you're making $15/hr and everyone around you is making $1/hr, you're going to live like a king.

Yeah, that’s why ZERO of you Leftists move to Cuba.

I prefer democracies to autocracies, no matter how enlightened or benevolent. As bad as Cuba is there are other countries that are just as bad but don't suffer US sanctions because they pay lip service to the US.

 

[alang1216]

Ah. That Capitalist nation has the largest economy, and singlehandly destroy any nation on earth by simply ignoring it.

I think the Cubans would love to be ignored by the US. What we do is prevent anyone who wants to do business with us from doing business with Cuba. We're essentially the school yard bully.