Penelope
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At insistence of the jews.
The Romans were well known to do whatevah DA
JOOOOOS wanted----like crucify something like 20,000
Pharisee jews. Ask the easter bunny
Y'all must be drinking Everclear out there.
Dig. Rome was a frickin' EMPIRE, OK? A YUGE one. It didn't get yuge by taking orders from their own conquered subjects. Put that idea out to frickin' pasture because it makes no sense at all.
Rome didn't give a shit what its conquerees did religiously among themselves; they stayed out of the way and weren't interested. What it WAS interested in was insurrection. Any kind of challenge to its authority. Whelp -- enter Jesus, doing exactly that, the purported "King of the Jews". THAT was going to get Rome's attention right quick, and did. That's what he was crucified for. Jews -- the colonized, under Rome's thumb --- weren't about to "insist" their own rebel be offed, LET ALONE presume to tell Rome what to do. All that shit was written in later as Spin. Any Jewish accedance to what Rome wanted to do would have been to save their own asses, lest Rome crucify them too.
That's why all that biblical bullshit about "kingdom of heaven" was invented after the fact, to cover up the political revolution Jesus clearly tried to effect by riding into town in full royal-savior pose at Passover, which started a riot (the "moneychangers"). The 'savioring' he was intending was to save the Jews from the Romans, in other words one more revolutionary trying to throw off the yoke of colonialism. No more complex than that. That particular revolution failed, as many do, and it was punished by the power in control whose power had been challenged, and that would be --- Rome. Not "da Joos". That's absurd.
Are you aware that the Palestine area at the first century was under a civil war. Rome didn't want to destroy Herod's temple but it came to that to end the civil war.
The elitist Jews didn't like Jesus making trouble at the temple with the money changers, and they wanted rid of him, so they had Pilate give the mob jews a choice,
Jesus the Christ or Jesus bar Abbas (Barabbas) and the mob of Jews yelled Barabbas they wanted to be set free. (this is according to the scriptures).
Titus right hand man was a jew, Tiberius Alexander, a nephew of Philo who the created the concept of the Logos.
Pffft "the scriptures" and consider the real world. "Jesus bar abbas" = Jesus Junior -- his son. The father gave himself up in exchange for Junior so that even if his attempt had failed his son might have a shot. The whole Judas mythology is another spin and the scripture-spin lets that cat out of the bag as well -- "go now and do what thou hast to do" -- far from "betraying" anybody Judas is following Jesus' orders.
Always consider who's writing, when and why. This scripture-spin was only writ down decades after Jesus was gone, and then edited by committee at Nicea three centuries later in a "let's get our story straight" project. It's hardly to be considered anywhere near a reliable history. It's fake news.
John of Giscala - Wikipedia
Simon bar Giora - Wikipedia
Read all about John, Simon and Eleazar .
what for?
Because everyone should know what the Jews were like in the first century, burning their own warehouse of food, and fractional. Rome had to do something.